Topic: VEGA 64 mining FREE WISDOM - page 17. (Read 10807 times)

How do you ROI $750 in 24days mining Eth lol

my local supplier komplett.no has no air cooled 64's (they have a handful liquid cooled ones) and neither do any shops i have looked at here in Norway

komplett have made a monster order for about 200 64's expected to arrive 2nd Jan from all manufacturers apart from MSI (which is the ones i use now)
Saphire seems to be the manufacturer with the greatest supply at the moment but no delivery until the 2nd Jan unconfirmed!!

this is getting crazy, i bought my cards for around $650 a couple of months ago and now the cheapest listing i can find is $750 (current ROI 24days mining ETH)
sounds like a gold rush no?
think i will put my money where my mouth is and pay for another 3 ($2250) to go with another ASUS mobo i paid for waiting arrival on 17th Dec
i dont like paying for anything without getting it in my hand instantly, but i fear these cards will disapear as soon as they are in stock

i know people, i could use that money to buy 11 lesser cards to fit my current rig (ASUS has 19PCIe but can only run 8 VEGAs with current drivers) but hey, i set myself down this path and have gotten quite competent in their use, so why change that which works

can you find any VEGA64's in your area? if so how much are they going for?

Its a combination of AMD discontinuing the Vega reference design (shifting to custom boards) and VERY high demand because the Vegas are really profitable for minging.... For gaming they are mediocre and you are better off buying at 1080 or 1070 Ti for the same or even lower price.

From what I understand, North America is pretty much sold out and here in Europe, they are very hard to find as well.

Gotta say RIGED is into something here.   Vegas are sold out everywhere and I don't think the holidays can account for this.   Someone,  somewhere has figured out a way to tap into their mining potential of these cards.   How's the diff growth looking on ETH and XMR?

What are you getting 47Mh/s with Vega and lyra2rev?  This puts it a little behind 1950h/s on Cryptonight, but it is definitely a good alternative.

So i've been doing some experimenting with the vega myself. Vega 56 to be specific.

Turns out you can get decent profits on monacoin(lyra2rev) using mkxminer. Breakeven in about 3-4 months for just the card.

I strongly believe too that with driver advancements, the vega will perform a lot better. There is just so much compute power in it when you do the math.

yes,

i did some changes last night before going to bed to see the result
and the results were surprising
i downed the voltage allowance to -24% on all gpus and tunned all cards to 1100 on the memory (which seem to be the settings everybody is using)

it seems the speed decreased by 5mh/s the total wattage went down almost 200w to around 1500w

and yet the shares found increased!!!! i know there is a large element of luck in share finding but im curious to see the weight of the different settings on share finding as this is what we are rewarded for in the end, i have an incling the VEGAs have a specialty finding shares in row (as shown in the pics and explained before) 

payment cycle is on the low side of the graph at 19hrs which is great, i just reached it now 0,05ETH
and oh yea, as i mentioned before capital gains from todays ETH price spike give me calculated monthly earnings on ETH at $870 right now 10% up from yesterdays post

again if i was mining purely for money then XMR is the way to go, faster speeds and lower wattage, waiting to see results from my mate, he switched to XMR last night and will report on them later next week

lol my post with no links was deleted with a suspicious link removed message
strange

Not knocking anything, just trying to break the math down.

So some quick math and I come back with you're averaging about 44.375MH per card at 212.5 Watts per card.

Assuming you picked up the cards for about $500 a piece, if your power costs are cheap enough and you got the cooling, it works well when compared to other options out there in terms of bottom line profits. However if your power costs are above 6 cents per kwh, then there are better options out there in terms of bottom line profit as you can do ~30-32 MH at about half the power usage but you would need more cards (more rack space) to reach the hashrate you're putting out.

So in summary, nice hashrate for the density, not so nice for the power/profits for most.

If I only had 4U of rack space to play with, I'd totally build this type of rig.

yea most prob, but elec cost here in Norway is so cheap that the difference in the end of the month is a few dollars more (around 2-3) so we choose stability over power consumption, and hey gaining $1800/mnth on XMR at current prices is well over our $35 cost to run

cant use banana peel to run a Ferrari but you can use it to run a 2CV, take a pick

170w seems unnecesarily high for best profit per power consumption.. Can probably get closer to 150w pretty easily and maybe even 130-110w with major undervolting and underclocking the core while keeping mem clock high, you'll still get 1800-1900+ h/s

Very useful topic. Information about Vega 64 is small now. It seems the vega is very profitable now

to increase the life span of your VEGAs (or any other cards) you must try to run them as cool as possible, with the techniques i outlined before, as we are overclocking them beyond the manufacturer suggestion

try to keep the fan rpm at the lowest setting possible, something heavily depending on ambient temp so if its cooler outside try to hose and fan that air to the fans of your cards (always use filters to avoid crap entering the gpus)

if you live in warm climates know that your electrical cost is higher and longevity of gpus are lower if no precautions are taken

closed rig systems with cold air fed (in the bottom) from an airconditioning unit and heat exhaust in the top can be effective if the gpus are placed correclty (vertical in a row without having one blowing to the intake of another) and the a/c unit is powerful enough (BTU rating) to counter the Wattage heat coming off the gpus (a Watt is a measurement of heat), for every a/c 9000BTU in a closed system im guessing you can have up to 4 VEGAs (about 11 to 1 BTU to W ratio), include the electrical cost to your calculations  

keep the rig area clean and remove any fabrics from the surrounding area that produce fibers
set up your rig on a hard wood (laminate) or tile floor, if you are setting up in a garage or basement make sure the cement on floor and or walls is painted with a primer to avoid dust creation (cement creates dust naturaly just by walking on it)

when using a vaccum cleaner to clean the surrounding area do not use the contact or power line feeding the powered rig, switch off the rig and cover it with a non static non fiber sheet whilst cleaning, and wait 30mins after you finish before powering up the rig (you kick up dust whilst cleaning wait for it to settle down)

do NOT use a high pressure air blower to clean the gpu fans, you will damage them if not kill them in addition to pushing the crap on the blades further in the air passage on the electronic components inside causing possible shortcurcuits

dont do what i do and smoke in the visinity of the rig as nicotine, tar and thc crates a film inside the gpu and on top of all surfaces which shortens life span of hardware

we are critised as miners in using too much electricity to mine, THIS IS BULLSHIT propaganda by the powers that fear and loath what we are doing as the current banking methods of money transfer/holding use far greater ammounts of electricity, human and non human resources, just imagine how much it costs to build and run the data centers they use to store and run their sordid scam from sattelites in space to underground vaults let alone keeping the lights running in all their branches

so called green tech is synonymous to a few raping the many using natural predictable weather changes and blaming it on us but this is another can of worms that i could rant on forever, nough said

i have seen a thread here by a fellow that seems to have bypassed the Devfee

my personal feelings on this are negative as i believe work by anyone, if not stolen (not banksters as they dont work) should be rewarded by the agreed ammount, so when you download and use Claymore miner for example you have agreed to pay a nominal ammount to the person that sat and coded the program, not doing so is like stealing from a shop or unilateraly breaking a contract whilst continuing to benefit from it

thats just how i feel, others may have stealing as a way of life, just remember karma is your friend or your enemy, you decide which
how would you like it if i hacked your rig and replaced your wallet address for mine? (not that i know how or have such intent)

to avoid problems when setting up multi GPU rigs use identical PSU's, as the VEGA has 2x8 inputs you need 2 cables for each GPU and 1 for the riser (avoid sata connections to risers, they gave us a headache)

all 3 per VEGA should be connected to the same PSU to avoid frequency conflicts

the EVGA1000 comes with 4 (i think) GQ 6 to 2x6+2 cables so you can use one cable per VEGA for every PSU out, which is handy as at 1000w if you have 4 VEGAs on it with moded Wattman to undervolt to 180-200W  with total 800W it works.
As mentioned before cables from a specific PSU may not work on another type even if they are from the same company like EVGA, so for example the EVGA1000 GQ cables work on the EVGA1600 G2 but not the other way round.

Problem being if you get a system drop and Wattman reverts to default settings the 4 VEGAs will draw 1200W and the PSU will shutdown, if you are using 1 PSU its ok but if you are using more than 1 and they are not bridged the other will keep feeding the VEGA's with your system shut down and this will kill your VEGAs by overheating. i almost did this and realised just in time after smelling the toasted electronics smell of death. a mistake that almost cost me $2000.

i am waiting for delivery of  6 to 2x8 cable splitters as an attachment to my G2 EVGA1600  cables (allowing use of one G2 cable per GPU) but i have read differing opinions on their use. We will use the thermal scanner and voltmeter on them to see if they are safe and stable, i will post results when done, but as with all hardware comming from questionable chinese manufacturers quality can vary greatly

again, visualy inspect all hardware before installation especialy solder points (get yourself a magnifying glass it helps), it doesnt take an electronics engineer to spot fused or non soldered component contacts

with a max 6 VEGA rig you can get 2100sols per card @ 170W, we are testing to add more but there are driver-bus??? shortcomings
as i mentioned above my bro in charge of the 10 card asrock rig is busy partying and should do a write up next week

MINE EASY, PARTY HARD hehehe

cool, post a link

is it stable?
is that value peak or average?
how many cards on 1 mobo?
because i do the same with max 3 cards of 8 stable but no more (peaking at 46,6), system cant take long operation with more than 3 and hangs, errors in shares and the watchdog comes out lol....

waiting for my 'partner in mine' to release his findings on how to get 10 Vegas running on the Asrock, i do know that you cannot connect all at once and startup, but rather one GPU at a time between restarts

he switched to XMR last night on all 10 but having problems getting all 10 at 2100sols, seems bus issues on mobos (drivers?) dont allow you to redline more than 6 at a time (at least thats he said to me last night)

we are examining a higher RAM value for XMR, most say you dont need more than 8Gb but we have a suspision this does not apply to all coins

if making $ is your thing then XMR seems the way to go at present more details to follow after Monday, big party tonight and i dont think Sunday will be a coherent day for posting  

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another very important thing before i forget again, it is imperative to fit your mobo on a backplate and not have it free standing for two reasons, less chance you will damage it adding removing components (especially ATX connection) and also you ground it via the screw holes

in addition wear a static discharge bracelet when messing around with the hardware, if you dont have one just touch the earth wire on any wall socket before handling hardware, do not wear wool or acrylic clothing when handling hardware, do not have your rig on a carpeted room (static risk)

do not handle the hardware whilst its running and if you have to connect something whilst operating touch the earth on a wall socket first to discharge yourself

as mentioned before the hardware and especialy the GPU's are suceptible to Electro Magnetic radiation, so keep your PSU's, other transformers and especialy spark gap devices (to name a few)  as far as possible from your rig