Topic: VEGA 64 mining FREE WISDOM - page 18. (Read 10807 times)

Do you know the current (average) best results for vega 56/64 xmr mining.. best hashrate/power consumption*

there is another thread and current results are 46.2mhs eth with 180watt, there is many useful information about other algos vega is capable to there ))

ok i see people are saying the same thing over and over again so let me make painfuly obvious

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MAXIMISING YOUR $ RETURNS
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MAXIMISING ENERGY EFFICIENCY

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT LETTING THE VEGA MINING MONSTER OUT

what you mine and how is up to you, i am not suggesting you do what i do but merely giving you for free my findings as i am learning
my motives for mining are probably different than yours so our situation is not identical

if it makes you feel better to reiterate for the umpteenth time what i already know and probably most readers here do also, then laugh to yourself and move along, your input is useless and frankly juvenile

thnx for the replies guys and gals

This thread does a diservice to those whom are collecting Vega64's i know, but in support to the greater good for all humanity i felt the need to start this thread. The more people mining the faster we can rid the banksters from our lives.

There is a pitfall and its about to go live next week, i am refering to the inclusion of Bitcoin futures on the CME. Most people have no idea what the implications of this are so i will try to explain.

i have been trading the commodities and stock markets for over 25years. The biggest threat to the banksters is competition to their ponzi scheme called the petrodollar where they create dollars out of thin air backed by a Promise to pay the bearer (hence Promisory note) and lend it at interest to our goverenments who in turn charge the populace and compound interest ontop, tax, and inflate. Up until 7 years ago the only serious and historical threat to their evil scheme are the precious metals namely Gold and Silver, which has been a store of value and medium of exchange for millenia in human history.

Via the introduction of said metals and all traded assets on the futures exchanges one is able to buy or sell at a price in the future using a fraction of the actual worth of the trade in exchange and that sets the price of today. The introduction of derivatives takes this proccess one step further and now one is able to buy or sell at a fraction of the fraction of real cost.
If one was to calculate the price of Gold and Silver from 1913 till today by simply adding inflation from then till now Gold should be worth $6000 and silver $730 http://usdebtclock.org/ (look on the right down) and yet the prices are $1250 and $15,80, a far cry from their real value.
How is that possible?

To make it simple,
i have an apple, you buy my apple and we agree the price to be $1 (price discovery) transaction happens (Buying a stock or commodity at face value)
i have an apple, you PROMISE to buy my apple in a month from now and give me $0,10 as a deposit, price of the apple is set at $0.10, a month from now you change your mind and dont follow through your promise so i keep the apple and the $0,10 (Buying an OPTION of a stock or commodity)
i have an apple, you PROMISE to PROMISE to buy my apple in a month from now and give me $0,01 as a deposit thus price is set at $0.01, a month from now you dont PROMISE to buy my apple i keep the apple and $0,01 (buying a DERIVATE).

Now i did not  know that you are creating the money out of thin air and can flood me with endless promises to promise to buy thus reducing the price of my apple to the level of your desire therefore you can go direct to the apple farmer and buy his apples for $0.01 a piece as this is price set in the markets like the CME.

Come forward to Bitcoin. Today buying a BTC will cost you $15 000, but with the inclusion of BTC on the CME you can now promise to promise to buy a BTC and pay $15 for it.

I see the subhuman scum on a daily basis bombing the prices of Gold and Silver (and others) with paper promises using money they create out of thin air backed by thin air because these metals are an institutional threat to their scam and have been caught doing it multiple times and fined topence (meaning nothing) for their illegal actions and are allowed to carry on.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-14/first-silver-now-gold-deutsche-bank-admits-it-also-rigged-gold-prices-legal-settleme
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-13/deutsche-bank-settles-silver-price-fixing-claims-lawyers-say

CRYPTOCURRENCIES ARE FROM THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE CONTROLLED BY THE PEOPLE
and institute a far greater threat to the filth than any other asset, commodity, currency
when you use dollars they are processed and held by the banksters and are taxed levied and stolen by said filth aside from the fact that your dollar today is worth 90cents tommorow because of inflation

when you use Crypto you are functioning ANONYMOUSLY and INDEPENDENTLY from the banksters

WHEN YOU MINE CRYPTO YOU ARE REPLACING THE BANKS MAKING THEM IRRELEVANT

by adding BTC on the CME the subhuman excrement can now bomb the price of BTC back to $0,0000000001 if they choose using fake dollars on a fake exchange between fake people.

thats why GPU mining has a future that ASIC is giving away
and what better GPU to use for this......yes you guessed it VEGA!!!!! (hahahahah)

ok rant off back to screwing the filth

LOL thread.
Mining another algo and coin and exchanging it to ETH will give you equivalent speed of 138mhs mining ETH per card with only 150-160 watt ))

I love this topic and the guy RIGED for starting it but one thing I hate you for is you're foiling my plans to get my hands on Vegas now that everyone and their dog will run buying them like hot donuts...

And the supply is horribly limited....
or should I say the demand is too great. 

Hi, my rig is somewhere about 353Mh/s with 1700W on wall.
But for now, the xmr is what I am mining. 15400hs for 1450W.
Anyway how did you managed to run 10x gpus on asrock h110 mining board? I am was able to run only up to 9x rx vega 64 sapphire limited editions. With 10x gpus the mobo do not want to boot. Just fans spinning and nothing happend.
No matter which gpu is 10th no matter in which slot or riser, its always the same...

cant stay away,
 i did mention the power usage on the previous page peaking at 1700W and before you tell me what i have read already here and knew from before i bought these GPU's the W to Hash ratio is not the best, but as i already mentioned on the previous page i did not set this up with power consumption as a priority but payment cycle which stands around 19-20hrs per 0,05ETH and sticking it to the banksters, so for me speed is paramount as elec cost here in Norway is the cheapest and most reliable in the world (aside from Genesis making a special deal with the Icelandic on geothermal)
i already provided the rigs nanopool link, click on payments and calculator tabs to check out the results

ok enough beating around the bush
i get about $800 of ETH a month (at $430ETH) and it costs me $45 in elec (net and other fees i pay anyway for the house)
http://www.electricity-usage.com/Electricity-Usage-Calculator.aspx?Device=&Watts=1700&CostPerKWH=0.04&HoursPerDay=24

when we tried Monero the returns were around $1800/mnth (@ $230 XMR) with less than $35 in electricity
https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/monero-mining-calculator/?h=15200.00&p=1200.00&pc=0.04&pf=1.00&d=35217586884.00000000&r=6.03665686&er=0.01553867&btcer=17299.52000000&hc=0.00

keep in mind i am testing for a very large setup, so returns are not so important at this juncture

Speed isn't everything, whats your power usage at the wall for 355MH? That'll really show your numbers, Interested if you can beat what other cards are doing out there.

Now in terms of density, nice numbers for only 8GPU's but I'm not sure the costs justify it without knowing power usage at the wall.

one last question before i catch some shut eye,

does anybody have an 8 card rig of any type that tops 355,5MH/s combined speed mining ETH?

if so lets see it, post a screenshot

ps when you buy a Ferrari you should expect high fuel consumption, even when driving at low speeds 

yea soz, too many numbers sometimes trip my synapses, you are ofcourse correct

but isn't it curious that as the VEGA hype deflated with actual testing they are still bought faster than made? must be a lot of idiots including myself around i guess

i just uploaded a pic of the 10 GPU open air vertical rig, sorry for the mess but my bro in charge of this one cant help himself and is constantly changing things on the rig, also having problems with the ISP he is using and has reverted to a 4G connection off his ipad

i will post the specs for this one tomorrow but as you can see there are 3 PSU's in use, the 1000w is powering only one card as there is no availability on the 1600's

just one important point for now, if you are using consequetive PCIe's for the risers on the Asrock, take a static bag (comes with all electronic equipment) cut it in small squares and fit them between the risers on the board to avoid shortcircuits as Asrock thought it was a good idea to have the ports with no space between them

more later, thnx all for your replies and consideration

The same shite was blabbered about Vega too. 60Mh/s-90Mh/s....shit can't do 50Mh/s....yea drivers yea mobos yea windows sucks...no good drivers for linux....whatever!!!
It's a loss, still 2 year old rx470/rx480 are better on eth mining than shitty vega.
I won't buy Navi without seeing it doing 150Mh/s on a miner! Cut the bullshiz

p.s: thanks Riged, your posts are very informative! I appreciate the effort...!
BTW 1080ti has 11GB memory and Vega FE has 16gb HBM

if you sit and look at the mining screen running you might notice something strange

more often than not when a GPU finds an accepted share the same GPU will find the next share sometimes even a third all in a row, you can see this with GPU 5 on my screenshot, 3 in a row! (posted a new screenshot with GPU6 getting 4 in a row almost 5)
(this is dependant on your response time being around 100ms something that depends on your connection and ISP and time of day)

this occurance is not accidental but rather frequent and i have not noticed any other type or make of GPU doing the same (let me know if not so)

this phenomenon is an indicator of the VEGAs unaccesed arsenal and the true routing speed of the memory (hence my drumming keeping it under 70C)
compounding this to the apparent single card dual split capability on XMR and the fact that this card has 2x8 pin power connections with a seemingly unused 300+W capacity on top of the fact that it has insanly more transistors than any other card on the market (inlcuding the 1080Ti) should ring some bells and wink at you for future possibilities

the VEGA's are built with more capability and more components than others (aside from the 16Gb mem of the 1080Ti)  in the same class and are more expensive but yet they underpreform in gaming graphics comparisons, why is that? is it due to the AMD CPU instead of an INTEL? is it because AMD are a bunch of idiots and dont know what they are doing? or is it because this card (and i mean specificaly the 64) was not created with gaming in mind but rather longevity in crypto mining? does any other graphics card have drivers especialy for mining? (as is with no updates my ass). IMO this is the smartest and most sneaky product launch i have ever encountered and i can only assume the capabilities of this card will be utilised in small steps keeping ahead of any present and future competitors for years (minimum3) to come. The few in the know and others with a sixth sense have understood this and are buying them now (in the launch period) faster than they are made available.
i really do believe this card is a mining Ferrari dressed as a Fiat

and just to clarify i have no gain from letting this info out of the bag and in fact it will help in me not being able to buy more of them as their popularity increases, but again i enjoy and hope others will join the fight against the slavedrivers

mining different coins and changing from one to another regularly, can require different mining software, drivers and value setups, this can be testing on your equipment as changes can leave imprints underscoring a later instal

when switching between mining software to mine different scrypts please consider doing clean uninstal of drivers (we use DDU) before you instal different ones thus reducing the chances of conflicts

we had to reinstal windows, several times in order to have stability when switching coin mining in order to get it to work, this is laborious and time consuming equating to down times thus diminished returns

as a novice try to pick a method/coin and stick with it to avoid down times and potential catastrophic consequences on your rig (i paid dearly for my mistakes so im trying for you not to do the same)

instal on the rig the bare essentials for the type of mining you choose and avoid running peripheral programs that are not imperative

check your startup programs to make sure you are not weighing on the RAM with crap you dont need

streamline your OS by uninstaling useless programs that come with windows like games and junk you will not use, switch off automatic updates on the ones you can't and for goodness sake completly dissable the CORTANA function, she only takes system resources that you need

do not install the AERO theme (uncheck box) when installing basic intel windows graphics driver

i even have the automatic windows updates disabled on my system as its stable and updates are known to throw a spanner in the works, i actively choose what updates to have installed on merit of security and system efficiency

switch off all inactivity sleep functions (system, hard drives, screen etc) as this will stop your miner

set your system (win options) to run on performance rather than other settings (efficiency etc)

up vitrual memory to 20Gb as stated above

regularly check for driver updates of your mother board especialy if its one geared for mining

do NOT update to new GPU drivers, if the ones you are using work, when they are fresh, let others do the testing for you (as mentioned above this forum has great people willing to share their experiences)

i have a usb stick with all the drivers, programs etc for easier installations when switching coins/setups/clean wipes

once you start amassing funds do not keep them all in one wallet or trading platform, spread them around and at best buy a hard wallet (i use the NANO LEDGER S), look at what happened to nicehack i mean nicehash (bunch of morons keeping all funds in one account or by intent?)

and this one is the most important: KEEP A PAPER RECORD OF ALL YOUR PASSWORDS, SITE DETAILS, WALLET WORD LISTS etc, do not trust electronic records for safe keeping as they can be corrupted, deleted, hacked, etc
 
Keep it simple, stability is key in the long run to maximise returns

just for clarity,

i know that ETH mining with these cards does not (at present) yield the best returns in terms of financial gain when compared to other coins, but being a crypro miner, for me at least, is not only about making money but primarily its about BUSTING THE BANKS, i fucking hate them and the current debt slave system imposed on us without consent and by sheer indoctrination from cradle.

If looking at the financial aspect one also has to consider further gains from price fluctuations so cashing in ETH for anything else today, can lead to dismay in the future when ETH price moons. (i know this from my experience in trading commodities)

i am very passionate on this subject as i have internal knowledge of the current global financial system and i would need terabytes to outline the details, history, and implications of our current reality.

Being a crypto miner no matter the scale is an act of REVOLUTION against the fat lazy greedy subhuman pieces of excrement taking all of us for a ride with their tri tier system of control, namely interest, inflation, taxation.

this man deserves recognition for his elloquence in telling the IRS to FUCK OFF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCfk7a2Va0

BE A REVOLUTIONARY AND MINE

panzer can you run some tests to see what's the lyra2rev2 and neoscrypt hash rates are on your vega rig? thanks in advance !)

What I have realized in my very short time in cryptocurrency mining is that there are many different ways to mine.

My choice has been to use my Vega rig to mine the most profitable currency and trade regularly for BTC. With the Vegas, for the last month, it has CLEARLY been the CryptoNight algorithm and more specifically the ETN (Electroneum) coin. This has definitely been a better desition than to mine Ethererum (or anything else for that matter). Mining ETN on VEGA and selling for BTC daily or weekly is, for now, my preferred option.

I am also convinced that the AMD Vega cards have a great potential but the mining software has to catch up to utilize the power. The next few months will be very exciting!!

BTW, the Bitcoin Forum community is just FANTASTIC. I have learned so much from the more experienced people here, and there is always someone willing to help! Thanks from us newbies!

OP TEMP IS KEY

Heat goes up and cold stays down, consider this when setting up your rig and placing it with max headroom allowing the heat to collect away from the intake fans

if you noticed on the screenshot the GPU's are running at different temps, especialy one of them

this is not by accident but rather a test in progress

this rig is using the horizontal open air setup with all blowers facing the same direction towards the depth of the room (allowing exhaust to freely move and collect on the ceiling before being released out)

the GPU's are placed at regular intervals (as seen in the pic) apart from the one all the way to the right which is the one operating at the lowest temp with a large margin
we have found that spacing between the GPU's is very important in achieving lower op temps which yield better and more stable results, as heat by convection seems to creep into the adjacent card's intake fan

you might consider using a thick non conductive barrier (plastic etc) between the cards to minimise heat convection

i know that the distance is limited by the 50-60cm riser usb cable but try to maximise the space between as much as possible, using longer cables is not advisable as electrical resistance increases with cable length and this can cause issues

the 10 card rig (photos and info coming) is using the vertical setup and the results are different

i am currently designing a multi GPU (over 50) cylidrical closed rig setup that will not only be easier in assebly but also use less effort to cool the aircolled GPU's and recycle via thermoelectric principals the heat coming off (currently wasted) to further reduce energy cost. Time allowing i will try to design a smaller version for home use.

we are lucky here in Norway as the water is always cold so liquid cooled GPU's can be fed from a nearby water causeway. but this is a project for later consideration (hope that gives one ideas if they live next to a stream or river in which case look up the STIRLING motor)

Understand that, here regular is about €0.23 and about €0.06 if you use like 1mil kwh/y

43.7 is best i could get with max stability at lowest wattage.

Vega 64 is really a monster even though I am not into mining righ  now and just only reading some reviews for it cause I am planning yo build my own rig I am really amazed by Radeons Vega 64 speed for mining. In my country this hardware is really sold out that's why when it comes to stock again I don't want to hesitate to buy it.