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December 12, 2017, 08:43:18 AM
#74
Here is a tidbit of wisdom we gained by using a FLIR handheld Thermal Spectograph on the rig and wiring and why, as mentioned above you need a spare 12v computer fan. (i haven't found this info anywhere on the net so if you are reading this consider yourself ahead in the game)

on the imgur link above i have included pics of the ASUS and Asrock mobos, the red circle you see is the component that can OVERHEAT and can cause long run mining problems. We found it to go over 70C in relative low ambient temp causing the PCIe slot BUSing to malfunction and freeze/hang the system.

Because we are utililsing the cold outside temp to regulate ambient room temp a fan pointed on that component is enough but you might consider installing a small heat sink to go with the fan for better results if you live in warmer environments.

pics of the 10GPU rig and more info coming later...



Have you investigated the temperature dependence on the number of cards? Do you think that specific component that you pictured influences PCIe slots to stop working by transferring heat to them, or you suggest that motherboard has built in feature to stop when some of its elements pass predefined threshold temp. Have you solved the problem with introducing some kind of heating that you mentioned?

The fact that you reported lead either to the conclusion that Asrock ,  ASUS motherboard is not designed properly: it always overheats when there are many gpus (>10) or that you have motherboards that are not working properly or that high power VEGA consumption specifically  heats the board.

In my case I render the picture from the integrated GPU on CPU(i3) but still the picture freezes so I might conclude it's not due to PCIe.

Have you tried to read some motherboard temperatures from HWInfo?

Here is my previous post for other thread so you can know my conf:

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Hello,
I had the problem that system freezes at random time intervals while mining when using 10 Nvidia cards on H110 motherboard running on windows. I was aware of the limit on windows: 8 nvidia and 5 amd, or other way round so I got an information that windows solved that problem in Fall creators update. Unfortunately, my system was running two days and after that it started to freeze again on random time intervals when mining: approximately 2-3 hours.  I tested both EWBF and DSTM miner. Has anyone reported that this win update can fix the problem?

This is a description my system conf:

Rig:
10x Zotac 1070 AMP Extreme
Asrock H110 Pro BTC
Intel i3
8GB RAM
500 HDD
2x corsair 1000W + Kolink 750W : 2750W

OC:
Power Limit: 65
GPU Core: 70
Memory Core: 270
Target Temp: 70

OS:
Windows 10, Fall creators Update

EWBF: 4600 sol/s   Power usage: 160W/card
DSTM: 4750 sol/s

''
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December 12, 2017, 12:05:03 AM
#73
Crimson drivers are notoriously buggy especially when using more than 4 GPUs and thats why i we use 17.11.1 as for ETH with claymore HBM is not needed

the Crossfire function although im sure great for gaming throws a spanner in the mining works, when testing with newer Crimson versions i found that although you can seemingly switch it off (after a few tries of off and on) it can switch back on by itself while you are mining and cause system fail, and yes it can also revert back to on after reboots, if you dont need it dont use it

i also pefer to do a volantary 24-48 hour reboot refreshing the system thus maintainig stabilty and uptimes

lol Panzer i didnt even tell my wife about the money i spent until the rig was in the house, after 3 weeks of steady income she got the point hahaha

yea, the tipping point for me to endevour in this was bypassing the bansksters and TAX FREE income aspect of it

its a brave new world

 
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December 11, 2017, 05:40:47 PM
#72
just for clarity,

i know that ETH mining with these cards does not (at present) yield the best returns in terms of financial gain when compared to other coins, but being a crypro miner, for me at least, is not only about making money but primarily its about BUSTING THE BANKS, i fucking hate them and the current debt slave system imposed on us without consent and by sheer indoctrination from cradle.

If looking at the financial aspect one also has to consider further gains from price fluctuations so cashing in ETH for anything else today, can lead to dismay in the future when ETH price moons. (i know this from my experience in trading commodities)

i am very passionate on this subject as i have internal knowledge of the current global financial system and i would need terabytes to outline the details, history, and implications of our current reality.

Being a crypto miner no matter the scale is an act of REVOLUTION against the fat lazy greedy subhuman pieces of excrement taking all of us for a ride with their tri tier system of control, namely interest, inflation, taxation.

this man deserves recognition for his elloquence in telling the IRS to FUCK OFF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCfk7a2Va0

BE A REVOLUTIONARY AND MINE

This is why i mine everyday and dont mind having gpu's in my room even.
Its up to us to make them change or else who will?

Good to know there are others are out there that share the same sentiment.
hero member
Activity: 1274
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December 11, 2017, 05:15:56 PM
#71
Hi. RIGED`s bro here.
The Crimson drivers from 17.11.1 and up supports up to 12 Vegas on the Asrock BTC+. Have runned them stable with the 17.11.1 now for quite some time.
Tried mining XMR for a day but ended up with multiple hangs and therefore went back to ETH mining. Have anybody here got any good stable settings for XMR in wattman running Crimson 17.11.1 driver? Not possible to install the
Blockchain driver with so many cards.
Will get another Asrock BTC+ next week hopefully and will splitt the rig and try Electroneum with blockchain drivers to hopefully se the 2000H per card. Fingers crossed..


Thamez

Yeah, don't use Wattman at all. Use OverdriveNtool and Devcon.exe to reset Vegas.

Check out the scripts to automate and monitor/restart as hashrate drops.

http://vega.miningguides.com/

I run stable with the following on Vega 56 stock Bios, note I have not done reg hack:

Code:
[general]
MainWindowLeft=736
MainWindowTop=69

[Profile_0]
Name=rxvega
GPU_P0=852;800
GPU_P1=991;900
GPU_P2=1138;950
GPU_P3=1269;1000
GPU_P4=1312;1050
GPU_P5=1474;1100
GPU_P6=1272;950
GPU_P7=1282;950
Mem_P0=167;800
Mem_P1=500;800
Mem_P2=800;900
Mem_P3=920;950
Fan_Min=3000
Fan_Max=4900
Fan_Target=75
Fan_Acoustic=2400
Power_Temp=85
Power_Target=-10




What hashrates are you getting with this setup out of interest? I'm guessing around 1800-1850? Am I far off the mark? And total draw from the wall under 1200W?
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December 11, 2017, 04:58:40 PM
#70
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December 11, 2017, 04:13:19 PM
#69
450 m2, he asked for 20.000NOK per month cold storage. Been on the market a while i can probably get it for less with the upgrades i must do.

Heres a tip for you, have air intake pipes (normal ventilation pipes) coiled or snaked on the ground outside your facility.
when it snows (if you live north so much the better) shovel as much snow on top of the pipes as possible all winter long
when spring comes and we get warm degrees cover it with insulation (glava) and/or winter mats

Obviously using a motor you will have ice cold air to feed to your intakes all summer long

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BRO... i told ya stay away from those nasty pitfall blockchain drivers..... lolololol

Waiting for the new Asus mobo plus larger RAM, 32 huh, and im splitting the 8 vegas into two rigs scoping for 16800h xmr etn

prob is what to do with the ninth? Its 3 short of a third muhahahahah


I knew it!! The secret is SNOW!!

I have my Vegas in the basement and the whole house is kept warm from them.  Wink Hoping for a long and COLD winter so I can justify the power bill for my wife....   Grin
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December 11, 2017, 02:44:41 PM
#68
450 m2, he asked for 20.000NOK per month cold storage. Been on the market a while i can probably get it for less with the upgrades i must do.

Heres a tip for you, have air intake pipes (normal ventilation pipes) coiled or snaked on the ground outside your facility.
when it snows (if you live north so much the better) shovel as much snow on top of the pipes as possible all winter long
when spring comes and we get warm degrees cover it with insulation (glava) and/or winter mats

Obviously using a motor you will have ice cold air to feed to your intakes all summer long

-
------------------------------------------

BRO... i told ya stay away from those nasty pitfall blockchain drivers..... lolololol

Waiting for the new Asus mobo plus larger RAM, 32 huh, and im splitting the 8 vegas into two rigs scoping for 16800h xmr etn

prob is what to do with the ninth? Its 3 short of a third muhahahahah
newbie
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December 11, 2017, 12:44:56 PM
#67
my local supplier komplett.no has no air cooled 64's (they have a handful liquid cooled ones) and neither do any shops i have looked at here in Norway

komplett have made a monster order for about 200 64's expected to arrive 2nd Jan from all manufacturers apart from MSI (which is the ones i use now)
Saphire seems to be the manufacturer with the greatest supply at the moment but no delivery until the 2nd Jan unconfirmed!!

this is getting crazy, i bought my cards for around $650 a couple of months ago and now the cheapest listing i can find is $750 (current ROI 24days mining ETH)
sounds like a gold rush no?
think i will put my money where my mouth is and pay for another 3 ($2250) to go with another ASUS mobo i paid for waiting arrival on 17th Dec
i dont like paying for anything without getting it in my hand instantly, but i fear these cards will disapear as soon as they are in stock

i know people, i could use that money to buy 11 lesser cards to fit my current rig (ASUS has 19PCIe but can only run 8 VEGAs with current drivers) but hey, i set myself down this path and have gotten quite competent in their use, so why change that which works

can you find any VEGA64's in your area? if so how much are they going for?

How do you ROI $750 in 24days mining Eth lol

yea soz, should of explained that better, at current ETH price and with my current rig setup im averaging $850/mnth, thats the number i was thinking about to come up with 24day ROI on 1 card

i could just switch over to XMR and pay the 3 card cost with my current rig in 1.5mnths approx excluding the gains from 3 more gpus but then again as i have mentioned before im looking years down the line and much much much grander scale of which i made positive steps today

found a 450m cold storage warehouse and agreed a rental price, talked to the local electricity supplier and they are willing to go below $0,0325 kWh with high use (over 500Amps) , im writting up the business model as we speak and stop to come back here to answer all you good people (my daughter is waiting for me to help her buy her first CryptoKittie as well, she has 0,052ETH in her JAXX wallet lol)

if my numbers dont make sense please excuse me as i am immersed in calculations at the mo

I also run a smaller rig in Norway with a buddy from there and sometimes we talk about expanding.
So out of curiosity, if your confortable sharing the info, how much are you paying for that rental? That space is huge though...
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December 11, 2017, 11:45:32 AM
#66
Hi. RIGED`s bro here.
The Crimson drivers from 17.11.1 and up supports up to 12 Vegas on the Asrock BTC+. Have runned them stable with the 17.11.1 now for quite some time.
Tried mining XMR for a day but ended up with multiple hangs and therefore went back to ETH mining. Have anybody here got any good stable settings for XMR in wattman running Crimson 17.11.1 driver? Not possible to install the
Blockchain driver with so many cards.
Will get another Asrock BTC+ next week hopefully and will splitt the rig and try Electroneum with blockchain drivers to hopefully se the 2000H per card. Fingers crossed..


Thamez

Yeah, don't use Wattman at all. Use OverdriveNtool and Devcon.exe to reset Vegas.

Check out the scripts to automate and monitor/restart as hashrate drops.

http://vega.miningguides.com/

I run stable with the following on Vega 56 stock Bios, note I have not done reg hack:

Code:
[general]
MainWindowLeft=736
MainWindowTop=69

[Profile_0]
Name=rxvega
GPU_P0=852;800
GPU_P1=991;900
GPU_P2=1138;950
GPU_P3=1269;1000
GPU_P4=1312;1050
GPU_P5=1474;1100
GPU_P6=1272;950
GPU_P7=1282;950
Mem_P0=167;800
Mem_P1=500;800
Mem_P2=800;900
Mem_P3=920;950
Fan_Min=3000
Fan_Max=4900
Fan_Target=75
Fan_Acoustic=2400
Power_Temp=85
Power_Target=-10



legendary
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December 11, 2017, 08:41:26 AM
#65
Congrats on such a great board build. I don't understand however that you insist on Mining Ethereum when you can crush it mining Monero, 8 GPU-s like that should give you about 12.000 or even more hash mining Monero. I think you need to switch to maximize performance and lower down the consumption although with 0.04 USD/kwatt you are mining at 4 times less than us here in Italy at 0.16 Euro/kwatt and your standards of living are higher.
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December 11, 2017, 06:26:21 AM
#64
jeeeeeezzzz guys,
im not trying to maximise profits and im getting all this flak from you all when i am clearly saying this over and over again, i know this sounds stupid almost criminal LOL but....

ok i cave in to your pressure

gimme the wattman settings for 8 Vega 64's on the Asus
suggest what miner to use
do you think nanopool is ok for XMR?
any other tips
and will try to set it up and post results,
but just to remind you we have 10 Vega's running XMR on nanopool right now and only 6 of them are willing to go full throtle


ROI or Breakeven semantics, get my money back one way or another
Hi,
Just tell me please how did you managed to running 10x vegas on ashrock h110 mobo.
Thanks

Hi. RIGED`s bro here.
The Crimson drivers from 17.11.1 and up supports up to 12 Vegas on the Asrock BTC+. Have runned them stable with the 17.11.1 now for quite some time. Just install 8 cards first with the remaining two plugged out on both pcie and riser power. Then after install and confirmed 8 cards working, shut down plug one more card, reboot and log in, wait untill the screen stops flickering/mouse flicker, confirm 9 cards working, shutdown, plug next card, reboot log in, wait for screenflicker/mouse flicker, confirm 10 cards working.
Tried mining XMR for a day but ended up with multiple hangs and therefore went back to ETH mining. Have anybody here got any good stable settings for XMR in wattman running Crimson 17.11.1 driver? Not possible to install the
Blockchain driver with so many cards.
Will get another Asrock BTC+ next week hopefully and will splitt the rig and try Electroneum with blockchain drivers to hopefully se the 2000H per card. Fingers crossed..


Thamez
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December 10, 2017, 04:14:38 AM
#63
jeeeeeezzzz guys,
im not trying to maximise profits and im getting all this flak from you all when i am clearly saying this over and over again, i know this sounds stupid almost criminal LOL but....

ok i cave in to your pressure

gimme the wattman settings for 8 Vega 64's on the Asus
suggest what miner to use
do you think nanopool is ok for XMR?
any other tips
and will try to set it up and post results,
but just to remind you we have 10 Vega's running XMR on nanopool right now and only 6 of them are willing to go full throtle


ROI or Breakeven semantics, get my money back one way or another
Hi,
Just tell me please how did you managed to running 10x vegas on ashrock h110 mobo.
Thanks
newbie
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December 09, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
#62
Apologise OP for texting in this topic.
Can someone help me with ''best recepie'' for mining rig building, in start it will run on 3 vega 56, and leater on 6 56s.
Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 689
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December 09, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
#61
Don't forget... you can mine the most profitable coin/algo (with vega) like xmr/electroneum.. and if you have faith in eth longterm instead of mining straight eth.. mine electroneum and daily sell your electroneum for eth so you get more eth daily that way then just straight mining eth
member
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December 09, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
#60
jeeeeeezzzz guys,
im not trying to maximise profits and im getting all this flak from you all when i am clearly saying this over and over again, i know this sounds stupid almost criminal LOL but....

ok i cave in to your pressure

gimme the wattman settings for 8 Vega 64's on the Asus
suggest what miner to use
do you think nanopool is ok for XMR?
any other tips
and will try to set it up and post results,
but just to remind you we have 10 Vega's running XMR on nanopool right now and only 6 of them are willing to go full throtle


ROI or Breakeven semantics, get my money back one way or another
newbie
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December 09, 2017, 04:09:01 PM
#59
panzer can you run some tests to see what's the lyra2rev2 and neoscrypt hash rates are on your vega rig? thanks in advance !)

I don't have time this weekend, but someone must have done this already... 

This: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mkxminer-fast-lyra2zlyra2rev2-miner-for-amd-gpu-zcoin-gincoin-vert-mona-2360168 miner might have potential but is restricted to only work on some pools/coins.
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December 09, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
#58
yea soz, should of explained that better, at current ETH price and with my current rig setup im averaging $850/mnth, thats the number i was thinking about to come up with 24day ROI on 1 card
i could just switch over to XMR and pay the 3 card cost with my current rig in 1.5mnths approx excluding the gains from 3 more gpus but then again as i have mentioned before im looking years down the line and much much much grander scale of which i made positive steps today

Cool and all, but switch to XMR/Electroneum ... running Ethash on Vega's is almost criminal, seeing as you are effectively halving your potential revenue.

I agree 100% with this. As of right now, it makes no sense mining anything other than CryptoNight with the AMD Vega cards as this is the only algorithm that seems to be optimized for the Vega architecture, or at least at the moment is utilizing the HBM2 and GPU cores the best.

I am sure that over the next few months we will see more and more algorithms get optimized for VEGA and then the real beast will be unleashed.
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December 09, 2017, 03:25:21 PM
#57
my local supplier komplett.no has no air cooled 64's (they have a handful liquid cooled ones) and neither do any shops i have looked at here in Norway

komplett have made a monster order for about 200 64's expected to arrive 2nd Jan from all manufacturers apart from MSI (which is the ones i use now)
Saphire seems to be the manufacturer with the greatest supply at the moment but no delivery until the 2nd Jan unconfirmed!!

this is getting crazy, i bought my cards for around $650 a couple of months ago and now the cheapest listing i can find is $750 (current ROI 24days mining ETH)
sounds like a gold rush no?
think i will put my money where my mouth is and pay for another 3 ($2250) to go with another ASUS mobo i paid for waiting arrival on 17th Dec
i dont like paying for anything without getting it in my hand instantly, but i fear these cards will disapear as soon as they are in stock

i know people, i could use that money to buy 11 lesser cards to fit my current rig (ASUS has 19PCIe but can only run 8 VEGAs with current drivers) but hey, i set myself down this path and have gotten quite competent in their use, so why change that which works

can you find any VEGA64's in your area? if so how much are they going for?

How do you ROI $750 in 24days mining Eth lol

yea soz, should of explained that better, at current ETH price and with my current rig setup im averaging $850/mnth, thats the number i was thinking about to come up with 24day ROI on 1 card

i could just switch over to XMR and pay the 3 card cost with my current rig in 1.5mnths approx excluding the gains from 3 more gpus but then again as i have mentioned before im looking years down the line and much much much grander scale of which i made positive steps today

found a 450m cold storage warehouse and agreed a rental price, talked to the local electricity supplier and they are willing to go below $0,0325 kWh with high use (over 500Amps) , im writting up the business model as we speak and stop to come back here to answer all you good people (my daughter is waiting for me to help her buy her first CryptoKittie as well, she has 0,052ETH in her JAXX wallet lol)

if my numbers dont make sense please excuse me as i am immersed in calculations at the mo

You can't calculate ROI with GPU's you already own paying off a new GPU.   Cheesy
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December 09, 2017, 03:13:40 PM
#56
yea soz, should of explained that better, at current ETH price and with my current rig setup im averaging $850/mnth, thats the number i was thinking about to come up with 24day ROI on 1 card
i could just switch over to XMR and pay the 3 card cost with my current rig in 1.5mnths approx excluding the gains from 3 more gpus but then again as i have mentioned before im looking years down the line and much much much grander scale of which i made positive steps today

Cool and all, but switch to XMR/Electroneum ... running Ethash on Vega's is almost criminal, seeing as you are effectively halving your potential revenue.
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December 09, 2017, 03:08:00 PM
#55
my local supplier komplett.no has no air cooled 64's (they have a handful liquid cooled ones) and neither do any shops i have looked at here in Norway

komplett have made a monster order for about 200 64's expected to arrive 2nd Jan from all manufacturers apart from MSI (which is the ones i use now)
Saphire seems to be the manufacturer with the greatest supply at the moment but no delivery until the 2nd Jan unconfirmed!!

this is getting crazy, i bought my cards for around $650 a couple of months ago and now the cheapest listing i can find is $750 (current ROI 24days mining ETH)
sounds like a gold rush no?
think i will put my money where my mouth is and pay for another 3 ($2250) to go with another ASUS mobo i paid for waiting arrival on 17th Dec
i dont like paying for anything without getting it in my hand instantly, but i fear these cards will disapear as soon as they are in stock

i know people, i could use that money to buy 11 lesser cards to fit my current rig (ASUS has 19PCIe but can only run 8 VEGAs with current drivers) but hey, i set myself down this path and have gotten quite competent in their use, so why change that which works

can you find any VEGA64's in your area? if so how much are they going for?

How do you ROI $750 in 24days mining Eth lol

yea soz, should of explained that better, at current ETH price and with my current rig setup im averaging $850/mnth, thats the number i was thinking about to come up with 24day ROI on 1 card

i could just switch over to XMR and pay the 3 card cost with my current rig in 1.5mnths approx excluding the gains from 3 more gpus but then again as i have mentioned before im looking years down the line and much much much grander scale of which i made positive steps today

found a 450m cold storage warehouse and agreed a rental price, talked to the local electricity supplier and they are willing to go below $0,0325 kWh with high use (over 500Amps) , im writting up the business model as we speak and stop to come back here to answer all you good people (my daughter is waiting for me to help her buy her first CryptoKittie as well, she has 0,052ETH in her JAXX wallet lol)

if my numbers dont make sense please excuse me as i am immersed in calculations at the mo
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