Topic: Venezuela - page 7. (Read 2060 times)

I listened to the video, I then noticed there is a response video in the comments that took the time to deconstruct the soundbyte being spread in this video part by part.

How Joanna Hausmann is lying about Venezuela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTTzA9yrZW4


Neutral opinion goes to commie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCJLL6SHst8

That is highly unlikely, they could form a few guerrilla groups and produce some violence, but nothing even remotely looking like a "war". Maduro's Venezuela doesn't compare to the previous charismatic Chavez. The amount of people willing to give their lives to defend Maduro's regime is practically zero, despite state media propaganda. You might be fooled into thinking he is the same because he was appointed by the former, but he is not...

Any sort of military resistance would disappear within hours, and most likely you will see en-mass surrender. This is because the Venezuelan military know more than anyone else how bad their situation is with what little equipment and weapons they have in working condition. From a military perspective, the only sensible answer is surrender. The Venezuelan military can deal with drug traffickers or smugglers in border land, sea and air patrol, but they are in no condition to engage with any other military force of any country, including Colombia or Brazil.

Suffice to say that the US dealings with Colombia have been far more longer and complicated, than anything that could possibly come out from Venezuela.

But if you mean it could be used politically as an excuse for "we are too busy here to go there", well i don't know, USA has enough military capacity to deal in many fronts at the same time. Not to mention this is the UAVs/drone warfare era, where you don't even need to risk human pilots anymore and can field plenty of remote controlled units 24/7 over vast areas. Proximity is also so ridiculously close they could launch from home, and we do technically share a border with the USA in Puerto Rico... A civilian jetliner can do the trip from continental America in under 4 hours, and a civilian cargo ship under 4 days.

This is the typical scenario where a politician would say "surrender is not an option" but the military understands that "surrender is the only option".

The best outcome for Venezuelans, right now, is to show such a display of muscle from the international community to make the regime surrender without any resistance, and this is what i think will happen.

Looking the other way and letting the regime continue is only going to continue the grief and deaths, and mass exodus...

Quite similar pattern thing happens in Syria, and is now provoked to be started in my beloved country Indonesia. All of destabilized countries now are just  proxies of the true cold war between three superpowers of 21st century: USA, Russia, and China.

The best outcome would be that we (the U.S.) gets sucked into an extremely costly and protracted new Vietnam in Venezuela and our 'allies' in the West (and our bitches in South America) abandon us to our own devices.

I say this because being tied up there in Venezuela in probably the only way we are not forced by the Zionist masters of our so-called leaders in Washington into 'doing' more and more countries in the Middle East and Former Soviet Union.  And things over there could easily go nuclear.

Just found this on Youtube, take your time to watch it and understand the situation better:



🇻🇪 Living inside the world's worst economy, Venezuela | Counting the Cost

Because it was never made public, that's internal info that leaked... It "delayed" the launch of Petro v3 (Dash centralized edition) a few months... Doesn't matter anyway, it was made wrong since the beginning and they insist in absolute centralization as "solution" to their security problems.

Its just like what they did to the economy, they made the problem much worse....

Right,  I've been following the saga for a while now. I added up all the NEM petros that were initially distributed (but due to the way the tokens were created they are immovable and just sit there in wallets) by the "mosaic" creator address -- at $60 a pop it added up to less than $230k if memory serves me. Maduro's claims that they raised "billions" are backed by absolutely nothing.

Never heard the part about the hack of the dash clone version. The petro that exists now might not even actually exist at all, because as you mentioned, its completely centralized and impossible to interact with its blockchain (there's only 1 web wallet and 1 mobile wallet). One dude in the petro ANN thread actually found some negative account balances in their "block explorer," which again, might not actually be exploring anything.

They sacked the original author (it wasn't Maduro's idea, but he bought it) and started another round since October. They have been taking money since then again but the amount is undisclosed. You can still register in their page and they will happily take your bitcoins. Like most ICOs, you will probably lose it all. Perhaps its just a fund to aid their escape...

Petro started as an Ethereum token, an idea that was scratched, then moved into a Nem token (that pre-ico) that was scratched as well (funds were NOT returned), then into a Dash clone, but was hacked and they covered the incident, and redid yet again using the Dash code, this time without wallets, completely centralized in a single server and that server provides the only online wallet, and doesn't give you keys or anything. Nodes and mining was kept indoors (only they do it); and of course they are not sharing the modifications they did to the code (even Venezuelan law forces them to, but they are above any laws anyway).

Since the time of the Nem pre ico; it was rumored the Russians invested. It might be that Russian plane that left recently was returning that investment in gold. This is of course dirty assets getting laundered, as that gold belongs to the Venezuelan people and not any "officials".

Actually the petro was 100% the idea of the Maduro and his administration. The Venezuelan congress wanted nothing to do with it, and I'm betting that once Maduro is removed from power the project will be abandoned. As far as we know he only ended up raising about $250,000 during the NEM petro ICO.

Russia is already gone. They just sent a plane and that left. Rumors say they took gold from the central bank, and the families from the "leadership".

Unlikely. A sane government would put an end to the subsidies, or at least lower them. Electricity won't be as cheap as it is today. Tho this probably wouldn't occur overnight, just like Argentina where they started a transition to move from subsided electricity to international prices in a 3 year period.

Venezuela would likely not go straight to international prices, but maybe half way there. Cheaper, but not free. Same as with gasoline, which is the only mad thing going on in this country. If you think a bitcoin mining society is bad, what do you make of a society with free gasoline? I'd rather have the former.

Oh and just for the record, there are some big miners here with solar power, they planned for the future as every miner should...

And that will cause many problems in economy... I mean, many cryptocurrencies will be represented on the market, so which is the official one? Now they use Bitcoin and Dash... WTF? Just imagine if they will use some more new coins - it will bring chaos...

maduros opponent will then create his coin, and live as king of venezuela will be no difference, power will corrupt everyone.

I feel sad for Venezuelan, they don't deserve this kind of situation. This will never be happened if their government doing their job well, unfortunately, they have an incompetent leaders. Here in Brazil we accepted thousands of Venezuelan refugees. This time , i am 100% supporting trump regarding this issue. that fucking Maduro should be ousted in Office. he doesnt deserve to handle any position in government because he is corrupt, greedy and incompetent !! he doesn't even know how to manage their economy. Poor venezuela.

I am now in South America, and I see that the situation in Venisuele will not be stable for a long time, while it is the scene of a fight between the USA and Russia.
poor people of Venesuela

let me be clear about one point

Bitcoin cannot save venezuela,

there is no way it can.

Bitcoin will only create a society that constanly invests into bitcoin mining and thats mad

regards

I hope this YouTube video by Joanna Hausmann helps to debunk some misinformation about the current situation, some of which have even been expressed on this very thread...

What's Happening in Venezuela?: Just the Facts

Keypoints:

• This is not a U.S. backed coup.
• This is not about a political ideology.
• The people want democracy.
• Juan Guaidó did not just "declare" himself president.
• Juan Guaidó is acting as Interim President.
• Maduro is illegitimate (made his own parallel congress).
• Monthly wage went from $350 a month to $7 a month.
• Inflation in 2018 +1,700,000%.
• Projected inflation in 2019 +10,000,000%.
• 5,000,000 Venezuelans have fled.

Please listen.

Oil, protests, sanctions, rabbits, Russian involvement and Kim Jong-un.
Here is the real story how Venezuela came to Blockchain.

https://shitcoinoffering.com/pablo-the-miner-and-superman-everything-you-need-to-know-about-el-petro/

It bemuses me how quick the US plays the interventionist police, thinking itself as the world's big brother. This position has often caused more harm than good to the general American people and their finances. The US is always in a haste to flex muscles and start a war it hasn't been able to end. Check the history books - From Iraq to Libya to Syria (to almost Zimbabwe), just check it. The same US would hastily pull out its forces after a while. It's just a pity that a bitcoin and cryptocurrency loving country like Venezuela is at the precipice of war. Were it China, I wouldn't give a rat ear.

This is a forum, not an investment service. Some people win in the stock market, and some people lose. The people who win wish they had known a long time ago. The people who lose often wish they had never heard of it.

thats not necessarily the case, you might end up in a nation with a foreign currency that is taxing your "property"