Very first tests P104-100: 39 Mh/s Ethash; 470 sol/s ZEC - Nice GPU! - page 4.

Marvell2

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Quote from: Lostpike on February 07, 2018, 11:33:53 PM

I was just informed that Nvidia is banning the sale of P104s to the US. Anyone else here about this?

No surprise here, they found that they cannot use that 3 month warranty in the US and EU

its basically against consumer laws here to provide such a flimsy warranty, on top of that its different from the warranty of thier

other consumer parts. Duh Their lawyers should have told them this before hand dummies

cnilsecure

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also the p106

Lostpike

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I was just informed that Nvidia is banning the sale of P104s to the US. Anyone else here about this?

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Quote from: colomine on February 05, 2018, 10:34:16 PM

Quote from: Jay_2000 on February 05, 2018, 04:17:52 AM

Just want opinions:

Someone is selling 9x P104-100 mining cards and 1x P104-100 mining machine for BND8k+. Is it worth it?

Jay, if you meant that they offer a mining PC with nine or ten(?) P104-100 cards then it is totally OK I think, considering the current demand. It is like buying each card for less than 600 USD. I got price quotes on Alibaba today (most published prices are outdated), where they ask 720-780 USD for one such card. Of course it could have costed 400-450 each if not the mining agitation, but it is what it is.

Well, more like a mining rig but with 9x P104-100 cards. I'm getting it for around 500 USD per card tho. But I have to wait for April batch so there might be an increase in price(hope not).

cnilsecure

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Hi,

I am kinda new here (as a registered user that is), I had to reply to this p-104 trend that been going on here.
so let me tell you I have no idea what is unique "bios" who is getting to 39mhs...

I have made some changes today we are running a machine with 8 cards P-104 (44-43 mhs per card) reaching
easily to 345 mhs not to mention running on 160watts instead of 180watts with linux centos.

I am using a private version of ethminer here are some screen shots from the teamviewer.
https://imgur.com/gallery/SwKM6U0

https://imgur.com/gallery/YvkfGym

Best regards,

CNILSECURE.

P.S. Sorry i havent figure out yet how to insert the image directly to here

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Quote from: Jay_2000 on February 05, 2018, 04:17:52 AM

Just want opinions:

Someone is selling 9x P104-100 mining cards and 1x P104-100 mining machine for BND8k+. Is it worth it?

Jay, if you meant that they offer a mining PC with nine or ten(?) P104-100 cards then it is totally OK I think, considering the current demand. It is like buying each card for less than 600 USD. I got price quotes on Alibaba today (most published prices are outdated), where they ask 720-780 USD for one such card. Of course it could have costed 400-450 each if not the mining agitation, but it is what it is.

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Quote from: Jay_2000 on February 05, 2018, 04:17:52 AM

Just want opinions:

Someone is selling 9x P104-100 mining cards and 1x P104-100 mining machine for BND8k+. Is it worth it?

BND is Brunei dollar right? if it's the case, 8k BND is around 6070$.
I'm not sure what meaning of 1x P104-100 mining machine, is it a complete miner which includes cpu, mainboard, ram, hdd..?

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Just want opinions:

Someone is selling 9x P104-100 mining cards and 1x P104-100 mining machine for BND8k+. Is it worth it?

soundformer

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Then the best is to wait for the big names to start selling their own, like Gigabyte, Msi, Inno... If we wanna play safe, mining is all about safety... and a very safe business aswell

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Quote from: soundformer on February 02, 2018, 11:10:54 AM

Quote from: BennyT on February 02, 2018, 09:19:59 AM

Seems like a bit of a crapshoot with those cards. $629 seems like a lot for 3 months warranty, no backplate, and temps seem high for running at 100% fan.

I'd rather pay the same price for a similar hash rate and a 3 year warranty with an almost guaranteed ability to sell the card on the used market.

everything you said makes sense, but honestly you can't find similar hash rate for that price that's the point (40mh/s-135w) :/ correct me if I'm wrong?

I can’t correct you, you are correct! However the cards need to last. A three month warranty and no resale value is a risky proposition.

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Hi fellow miners!
I have recently seen good wholesale price offers on P104-100 (different OEM brands) as well on popular mining cards (gtx 1060, rx 570, 580) including both OEM and recognozable brandnames. The prices are like before the 2017 mining boom if you buy 50 or more.These days when even Walmart adjusts prices up following the demand on GPUs there are not too many other options to chose from if you want to do mining professionally.

But I noticed in this thread that when it comes to Alibaba, it is considered too risky by many people. But what about Alibaba customer protection and sellers ratings Alibaba allows to track? Do you think it is still risky even when you buy from good ranked sellers?

For instance, there are some established manufacturer's with 10-15 years history out there. Those usually have "Trade Assurance" customer protection, similar to what we have on Paypal or Ebay , covering your purchases up to 40 000 -70 000 USD or more. They can also provide samples before you decide to move on with the bulk purchase.
Has anybody actually tried to buy directly from such manufacturers on Alibaba?

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Can you test and post fr PHI1612 algo (LUX)?

CCminer SP-MOD should be used

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Quote from: soundformer on February 02, 2018, 09:55:15 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on February 02, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

Prior to the current massive shortage and "gouge pricing", well over 40 Mhash on ETH was EASY to achieve for well under $600 using a pair of RX 470/480/570/580 cards or a pair of GTX 1060 cards.
I think you could also get there NOW via 3 x GTX 1050 - which are still in wide fairly good supply and NOT getting price gouged at all - for under $500 and possibly close to $400.

Tradeoff is that the rig density is lower.

Agree, but that investment is not justifable first of all coz of the power efficiency... lets say I put 3x1050 it's about 75-80w each, in total 225-240w against 135w....
So bigger PSU, less cards in a rig, more money for the RAM, SSD, mobo, risers...

The actual "in use" figures I've seen on the 1050 and 1050 ti have been mostly in the 50-60 watt range - they only have a MAX TDP of 75 after all, for the most part.

They also seem to come in around 14 Mhash more or less on ETH, which isn't bad - pretty close to RX 470/480/570/580 levels on ETH for efficiency.

Also, YOU CAN GET THE CARDS - they're still widely available at LESS THAN MSRP with a fairly wide selection to choose from.
I have yet to see ANY source for the P-104-100 that I can buy them from, and I STILL find the 40+ Mhash claims VERY problematical.

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Quote from: smoolae on February 02, 2018, 02:27:35 AM

Quote from: Q_R_V on February 02, 2018, 12:10:02 AM

Quote from: gglala on February 01, 2018, 10:46:03 PM

Silly question, I’m using free version of W10 and not activated on the key yet. Will that make a difference to driver compatibility and reading by the OS? Does getting the official key and having it installed make a better difference?

There should be no difference at all.

No difference, been mining with unlicensed Win 10 for some time now.

Thanks to all of your help. It was due to my W10 installer on older version, an upgrade fixed it and driver installed.

Mining dual coin with claymore 10.6 gets about 36mh/s for p104 but the claymore hanged and kept resetting with 0 hashrate though temperature of all GPUs showing. Trying now again with version 10.5.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on February 02, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

Prior to the current massive shortage and "gouge pricing", well over 40 Mhash on ETH was EASY to achieve for well under $600 using a pair of RX 470/480/570/580 cards or a pair of GTX 1060 cards.
I think you could also get there NOW via 3 x GTX 1050 - which are still in wide fairly good supply and NOT getting price gouged at all - for under $500 and possibly close to $400.

Tradeoff is that the rig density is lower.

Agree, but that investment is not justifable first of all coz of the power efficiency... lets say I put 3x1050 it's about 75-80w each, in total 225-240w against 135w....
So bigger PSU, less cards in a rig, more money for the RAM, SSD, mobo, risers...

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Prior to the current massive shortage and "gouge pricing", well over 40 Mhash on ETH was EASY to achieve for well under $600 using a pair of RX 470/480/570/580 cards or a pair of GTX 1060 cards.
I think you could also get there NOW via 3 x GTX 1050 - which are still in wide fairly good supply and NOT getting price gouged at all - for under $500 and possibly close to $400.

Tradeoff is that the rig density is lower.

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Quote from: BennyT on February 02, 2018, 09:19:59 AM

Seems like a bit of a crapshoot with those cards. $629 seems like a lot for 3 months warranty, no backplate, and temps seem high for running at 100% fan.

I'd rather pay the same price for a similar hash rate and a 3 year warranty with an almost guaranteed ability to sell the card on the used market.

everything you said makes sense, but honestly you can't find similar hash rate for that price that's the point (40mh/s-135w) :/ correct me if I'm wrong?

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Seems like a bit of a crapshoot with those cards. $629 seems like a lot for 3 months warranty, no backplate, and temps seem high for running at 100% fan.

I'd rather pay the same price for a similar hash rate and a 3 year warranty with an almost guaranteed ability to sell the card on the used market.

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Quote from: shibob on February 02, 2018, 02:47:52 AM

Quote from: soundformer on February 01, 2018, 10:47:02 PM

Does any of you guys had any chance of ordering p104-100 trough https://www.bitnand.com/ or where can we all look up for a Palit or Gigabyte cards mentioned here?

As I know, Bitnand offers the P104-100 mining rig with 9 GPU. The design looks very cool.
But 1 P104-100 with 629$, I think it's quite expensive. They gives spec. is 40 Mh/s ETH mining, but in a demonstration image, the reported hashrate is 31.8 Mh/s, it's quite strange.

Is it legit to order from Bitnand, anyone has experience ordering form them, don't know if they are scam?
And yes, it's quite expensive, but all the GPU prices kinda crazy at the moment :/

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Quote from: soundformer on February 01, 2018, 10:47:02 PM

Does any of you guys had any chance of ordering p104-100 trough https://www.bitnand.com/ or where can we all look up for a Palit or Gigabyte cards mentioned here?

As I know, Bitnand offers the P104-100 mining rig with 9 GPU. The design looks very cool.
But 1 P104-100 with 629$, I think it's quite expensive. They gives spec. is 40 Mh/s ETH mining, but in a demonstration image, the reported hashrate is 31.8 Mh/s, it's quite strange.

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