Topic: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position - page 36. (Read 55257 times)

Not saying Vod hasn't made some mistakes, but I think he at least does do a good job
relentlessly tagging scammers, day in, day out...

Whether its Vod, or whoever, I think its a good thing to have a small
handful of trusted people to neg the scammers...Its not fair to
Tomatocage to shoulder 100% of that.

IMO, we don't need VOD, Tomatocage does a wonderful job. One "scambuster" is enough (if not too much). Furthermore which does more damage? Maybe missing a scammer that will come back on a new name minutes later anyway, or potentially losing honest members who invested time into this community and wish to trade legitimately? I say that those innocent users caught up in his obsessive behavior are much more of a loss than the "service" VOD provides if any.

Actually no. You are thinking of another user. He also falsely accused iCEBREAKER of having his account hacked in the form of negative trust after he started pointing out his abusive behavior as well.

I have been pointing out this for a while in reference to the staff policy on default trust moderation, basically opening the doors for all kinds of infighting, but they insist I only bring it up because I am "butthurt", and pretend it is not a real issue. As far as records for going around and accusing people, VOD is unmatched in this arena.


Well in that case Badbear, Canaryinthemine, and Tomatocage  and some of the staff are all letting VOD make them look incompetent at best, nepotists at worst.

VOD clearly didn't remove those ratings because he "realized the error of his ways" or something, he did it because the community finally stepped up and called him on his bullshit, even if the staff made sure they were looking the other way. He has had a clear pattern of excessive behavior just like this over and over and over. This demonstrates to me VOD is only sorry when it effects VOD, therefore he is a liability to this community in his position of default trust. If that doesn't concern the staff, Badbear, Canaryinthemine, and Tomatocage, well I guess that is just what the community will have to suffer from because they are unwilling to make hard choices and do what is right for everyone, not just their buddies.

Maybe,  but those trusted members are being just as childish, and in some cases starting it.

Aka?  Yes. Not who I'm speaking of.


Please try to keep up on the threads or don't bother commenting.

I'm concerned that this "pointing-fingers at each other" behavior is getting worse and worse on this forum. Everyone seems to be hunting down each other and enjoying it. Specially the members with a reputation are being fired on, in my opinion very immature and not a good sign.

The account he "accused" of being hacked was actually proven to be hacked, the person who hacked the account admitted to hacking the account, and theymos confirmed it was hacked.

Maybe, but than maybe the administration could ask him to stop leaving feedback based off hurt feelings, to not bend the truth, and leave reference.

I'm unsure how I'm a "pathological" liar, because I said he laughed in a pm, where he hadn't said lol. I simply took the context out of it as him basic ally laughing and yelling

How does this make me a pathological liar.
it's a pretty clear cut case of over exaggerating the truth to make your attack more effective.

Vod will be never removed from the defaultTrust list.


Just my two cents.

Removing may be to much, but we are more concerned about the way it's done. He has used the system to state someone has lied.
hell he just called me a pathological liar. And a child. With out reference.
And accused another of having a hacked account

If we use the system as a joke it becomes a joke.

From my own experience, Vod reacts fast when I message some of the trusted members to mark some defaulter or potential scammer. There was one instance when there was a delay in marking SuperDay, and he scammed Blazedout419 and was attempting more before finally getting marked. That was a rare case when Vod was late, and it also demonstrated the need to have someone like Vod who is usually very fast in marking them.

I am not saying Vod is right in this as I assume it would feel terrible to be at the receiving end of a wrong mark. But if Vod is removed then I can see a big problem, unless a few of the others step up publicly and say they are going to act on reports without delay.

They have ignored every attempt actually. and just don't comment.
Theymos hasn't even been in this thread has he?

I don't have a negative mark anymore, but VOD is still making statements which are untrue.
I went from lieing three time's as my negative to the following neutral.

It would seem that no one has any control over VOD.

But Stating someone laughed and yelled in a pm they sent, which was more of how it was taken in context and not dirrectly spoken. Makes me a pathological liar? The hot Headed part I can accept, calling me a child, well that's simply childish.

No, you were wrong on all three counts. You have failed to ever substantiate how takagari or TECSHARE has "lied" about you.

This thread is evidence.

You were asked many times to identify a repercussion you have faced.

You still have not answered that question, and have only replied to the questions with (i) off-topic ad hominems attacks, (ii) demands of 100 BTC for the answer and (iii) posts insulting the intelligence of another user asking the same question.

Given your intentional refusal to identify any repercussions and avoidance of such question, it is safe to assume that you have not received any tangible repercussions. You may have received PMs from people who placed you in their trust list, however that is not a reprecussion.

A repercussion is being removed from DefaultTrust. Scrutiny (which you have received at least publicly but attempted to avoid) is not a repercussion.

Again, Remington_Steele is asking for a repercussion.

How will you know if I've been censured?  How do you know I haven't been already?

I was only wrong about the hacked account - the others were correct.  But I removed my negative feedback because it was the right thing to do.  My feedback has weight and I realize that.

You revoked all three negative ratings from three users after pressure from other forum members. You accused one of being hacked, another for providing false postal code and the third for lying about you. Turns out you were wrong on all three counts. Others before you have faced repercussions for just one 'inappropriate' rating. Do you think you will also be punished?

Can someone organize a bet on this? I'm willing to bet 100 satoshis (I very poor miner) that Vod will not face any censure at all. Any takers?

I'm glad we were able to contain it to just one thread tonight. 

They won't justify it, they will just deflect and invalidate by posting a snarky cliched XKCD comic about 'Someone is Wrong on the Internet.'

Vod is Thermos' scam-hunting golden boy.  Who cares about collateral damage or logical consistency?

If not for Vod, BTCT would be overrun with scammers preying on poor halpless noobs....oh wait...   

I wonder how the admins will justify keeping Vod's place in the trust network after three 'inappropriate' ratings (as defined by theymos).

I think you mean avoiding scrutiny. You've posted other people's personal messages publicly many many times when it's convenient for you, and you can't complain about other people doing it.

Not a problem.