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byronbb

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Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

You a gringo ex-pat or native of the country? I have been contemplating an eventual escape somewhere cheaper....Thailand, Argentina being front-runners.

QuestionAuthority

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Wow, talk about full of shit!

rpietila

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Quote from: ablewasiereisawelba on December 13, 2013, 07:23:56 PM

So despite all of your talk about how bitcoin is overbought and will go down 50%... you believe the chances of it dropping in half are less than 50%...

Just one more time - ALL "my" financial transactions are hedged so no matter what contract I enter into, it does not change my net position from where I want it to be. The intent of "bets" is to find +EV deals and have fun (my offers have been really good for Goat, but his was -EV for me). This allows me to bet with huge amounts, because it is all calculated and hedged.

Once I made 2 bets both ending in the same date, one was for "bitcoin hits $1,000 before DATE" and the other was "bitcoin does not hit $5,000 before DATE". I already won one, and will probably win the other also. In any case, I could not lose by having these 2 bets but I could win them both.

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:25:02 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:22:00 PM

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

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$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

I will do it at 1 to 1 odds at your date February 13th 24:00 UTC,

Since you made the claim I think it is silly to give you odds. I will do $50,000 or $25,000.

Hack, and roll backs or other crazy stuff we need to rule out. Govt making BTC illegal or whatever and price crashes would be fine. But like errors on the charts, would not count.

This is cool?

Ah, a little bit too far from what I was thinking, and too tired to make a counterproposal. Let's check tomorrow if we still have a cockfight Wink

Wink

You made the claim today, if you don't want to back it up today that is fine. There will be no bet tomorrow.

Thanks

Fine.

This just in: rpietila is full of shit, doesn't believe in his Excel trends any more than anyone else does.

More at 7.

Voodah

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Quote from: Vycid on December 13, 2013, 07:20:39 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:19:46 PM

Quote from: Vycid on December 13, 2013, 07:17:44 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

They have ridiculous amounts of money, and the money won't be destroyed here, it would just change hands.

I don't know man... it sure reminds me of the phone talks of Enron's traders (someone posted the documentary here yesterday, thanks btw!).

I'm pretty sure that's not the path our new BTC rich should take.

What?

Enron was cooking the books, this is a friendly wager.

Lol. They were doing a lot more than cooking the books. I guess you did not watch that documentary.

Their traders were gambling on every possible thing you can imagine. They went as far as making the weather a tradeable commodity, can you even believe that??

600watt

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Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:19:46 PM

Quote from: Vycid on December 13, 2013, 07:17:44 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

They have ridiculous amounts of money, and the money won't be destroyed here, it would just change hands.

I don't know man... it sure reminds me of the phone talks of Enron's traders (someone posted the documentary here yesterday, thanks btw!).

I'm pretty sure that's not the path our new BTC rich should take.

that is just some free entertainment from nice guys. i love it.
if you are holding/selling bitcoins you are betting with much more than they do (relatively)

i guess that is what the waring about others having posted already is all about... Grin

Grin

rpietila

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:22:00 PM

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

I will do it at 1 to 1 odds at your date February 13th 24:00 UTC,

Since you made the claim I think it is silly to give you odds. I will do $50,000 or $25,000.

Hack, and roll backs or other crazy stuff we need to rule out. Govt making BTC illegal or whatever and price crashes would be fine. But like errors on the charts, would not count.

This is cool?

Ah, a little bit too far from what I was thinking, and too tired to make a counterproposal. Let's check tomorrow if we still have a cockfight Wink

Wink

You made the claim today, if you don't want to back it up today that is fine. There will be no bet tomorrow.

Thanks

Fine.

ablewasiereisawelba

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:22:00 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

I will do it at 1 to 1 odds at your date February 13th 24:00 UTC,

Since you made the claim I think it is silly to give you odds. I will do $50,000 or $25,000.

Hack, and roll backs or other crazy stuff we need to rule out. Govt making BTC illegal or whatever and price crashes would be fine. But like errors on the charts, would not count.

This is cool?

Ah, a little bit too far from what I was thinking, and too tired to make a counterproposal. Let's check tomorrow if we still have a cockfight Wink

Wink

So despite all of your talk about how bitcoin is overbought and will go down 50%... you believe the chances of it dropping in half are less than 50%...

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Quote from: virtualfaqs on December 13, 2013, 06:52:52 PM

Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 06:33:45 PM

I have a special kind of mind, it is quite simple, but it can calculate monetary probabilities very well. Somebody else may choke on his numbers, or shortcircuit and SHOUT that it is impossible to predict anything with certainty. Sure it is. Still some people win in poker and others don't.

All I can say is online poker is illegal in my US state. Bitcoin Daytrading is not. Cool

Cool

WTF ? Online Poker illegal ? I never heard of that one....

rpietila

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

I will do it at 1 to 1 odds at your date February 13th 24:00 UTC,

Since you made the claim I think it is silly to give you odds. I will do $50,000 or $25,000.

Hack, and roll backs or other crazy stuff we need to rule out. Govt making BTC illegal or whatever and price crashes would be fine. But like errors on the charts, would not count.

This is cool?

Ah, a little bit too far from what I was thinking, and too tired to make a counterproposal. Let's check tomorrow if we still have a cockfight Wink

Wink

Vycid

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Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:19:46 PM

Quote from: Vycid on December 13, 2013, 07:17:44 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

They have ridiculous amounts of money, and the money won't be destroyed here, it would just change hands.

I don't know man... it sure reminds me of the phone talks of Enron's traders (someone posted the documentary here yesterday, thanks btw!).

I'm pretty sure that's not the path our new BTC rich should take.

What?

Enron was cooking the books, this is a friendly wager.

Voodah

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Quote from: Vycid on December 13, 2013, 07:17:44 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

They have ridiculous amounts of money, and the money won't be destroyed here, it would just change hands.

I don't know man... it sure reminds me of the phone talks of Enron's traders (someone posted the documentary here yesterday, thanks btw!).

I'm pretty sure that's not the path our new BTC rich should take.

ElectricMucus

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Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:12:47 PM

Quote from: Nolo on December 13, 2013, 07:05:55 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:04:52 PM

I heard today Casascius has the Fincen breathing down on him??

Can anyone confirm?

http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-bitcoin-mint-casascius-shut/

Well fuck. That's retarded.

owned.

Vycid

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Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

They have ridiculous amounts of money, and the money won't be destroyed here, it would just change hands.

Goat's bet is more than fair (in contrast to mine, where I was seeking to troll a +EV bet out of rpietila). If rpietila doesn't accept this bet it is proof that he doesn't believe the things he says with any conviction, he's just trying to drive the price down.

Voodah

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Don't do it guys.

It's ostentatious a la WallStreet. I can live off of 1 BTC for two or three months down here in Argentina.

Don't throw 50 away ! It makes me cringe..

600watt

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Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

hmm, let me think about this for a second. I'm kind of wondering why you need 2 to 1 odds when you were so sure before.

c'm on guys ... get it settled.

panem et circenses

is what we want.

Voodah

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Quote from: Nolo on December 13, 2013, 07:05:55 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:04:52 PM

I heard today Casascius has the Fincen breathing down on him??

Can anyone confirm?

http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-bitcoin-mint-casascius-shut/

Well fuck. That's retarded.

He is merely providing the digital > physical interface.

What if he sold the coins with no BTC in them?

Davyd05

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: rpietila on December 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

hmm, let me think about this for a second. I'm kind of wondering why you need 2 to 1 odds when you were so sure before.

..Rp believes in only win win for himself lol

rpietila

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Quote from: ?? on ??

$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.

Nolo

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Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.

Quote from: Voodah on December 13, 2013, 07:04:52 PM

I heard today Casascius has the Fincen breathing down on him??

Can anyone confirm?

http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-bitcoin-mint-casascius-shut/

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