Author

Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 31983. (Read 26608476 times)

legendary
Activity: 1500
Merit: 1022
I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
If you want to stop heinous crimes, investigate in and encourage the creation of a better society not dominated by a sick and invalid monetary game. In a resource based economy, there would be no invalid authority or distorted values that stem from the use and abuse of money.
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.

It wouldn't surprise me if they try create a slander campaign and bait the media. Thats all we need is the media saying bitcoin is associated with child pornography. seems to me the feds are playing dirty as usual on this one
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.

I don't think that's the case. I think they've decided Bitcoin has the potential to enable child porn networks to flourish, and they're right. Just look around the Deep Web.

That doesn't mean Bitcoiners have to stand around and say, "yeah, whatever, it's gonna be used for child porn, dollars are used for child porn too". We're claiming to have a superior currency, it should be harder to abuse children with it (or just as hard, at the very least).

It makes sense for this guy to come and discuss ways to combat child porn. I'm on board with that.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.
Maybe that is what

Edward W. Lowery III
Special Agent in Charge, Criminal Investigative Division
U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Department of Homeland Security

is for?

I see this even as a chance to catch more criminals.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1002
Strange, yet attractive.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
How nice, about to smash through 500 on Gox, and 5000 on btcchina!
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.

Here's a website with some background on Ernie Allen.
http://bringvarvarahome.org/ernie_allen.php

"Mr. Allen is running two cash cows, one of which even dares to masquerade as an "international" entity without any recognition of its claimed status from the United Nations or any other multinational body."

What does the Senate do to find panellists? Dart in the phonebook?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
lel so much for teh weekend dip
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Here's my detailed technical analysis of current events:



hero member
Activity: 669
Merit: 500

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
People in this thread referred a few times to the senate hearing being on monday.
See correct date here:

http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
when I look at the sell wall there seems nothing to sell after $500 to about $1000+ as if no one is selling??

Don't worry, I'll be selling on the other side. Others will be too. The price just hasn't gotten high enough to take a position yet.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code


$500 to get murdered next...
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
when I look at the sell wall there seems nothing to sell after $500 to about $1000+ as if no one is selling??
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
Here's my detailed technical analysis of current events:




LOL, that made me chuckle.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Isn't there a checksum?

Yes, there is a link on the download page "Verify release signatures".

Verifying the checksum of Bitcoin software is important.
If someone were able to change the software on the site, don't you think they'd be able to adjust the checksum mentioned there as well?
That's why developers should always sign the checksums with their keys. However, the client_downloads to checksum_downloads ratio
is daunting.

Checksum is for validating bit errors likely to occur in a bit stream i.e. communication channel. It is NOT EVER EVER meant to be used cryptographically!! It is very feasible to modify the file and keep a valid checksum. In fact, CRC was used in the old 802.11/WEP standard as a message authentication code, and we know how well that worked out.

The entire file needs to be signed, or a secure hash (SHA256 hash in this case) that is signed. Signed by whom and validated by whom in which chain of trust is another can of worms best left unopened.

I know that what is actually provided is a SHA256 hash and not a checksum so I'm just being mean :-(

Edit: Technically it should be a MAC like HMAC_SHA256 as a pure SHA256 is vulnerable to a padding based attack, while SHA-3/Keccak in general is not.
I think you are right. I got caught up in lingo, as they name the file SHA256SUMS.asc on their site.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
Jump to: