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I was actually thinking about selling out all of my 100btc but the trend is clearly reversing. So what now?


where do you see this Huh?

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg10zig2-hourztgSzm1g10zm2g21zl
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I was actually thinking about selling out all of my 100btc but the trend is clearly reversing. So what now?

Wait... what?
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I was actually thinking about selling out all of my 100btc but the trend is clearly reversing. So what now?
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I see altcoins as a whole going up (NOT just LTC, but PPC, TRC, misc scamcoins ...).
Maybe somebody observed how ALL these coins went down as a whole, anticipating the bearish trend for BTC, by about 20 days.
Potential prelude or early signal for BTC trend inversion?
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So a negative result on 'crash' so... positive??  Huh

No doubt this is a bullish signal  Grin
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Exante, a Malta-based broker will now provide a means to investors to take long or short Bitcoin positions and trade shares using its Automatic Trading Platform (ATP). Thus, becoming the first of its kind, Exante which also became the first to introduce the world’s first Bitcoin-only hedge fund last March is all set to promote the crypto-currency for traders.

So since a week ago, you can now short Bitcoin on their account.  Smiley
Oh boy, that could serve to accelerate the bear market. I remember what happened when Bitcoinica came on stage.
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Looking at the other threads, a lot of bulls coming out of the woodwork. All claiming to be buying cheap coins. If I dump in another 10k USD though, I would be getting nervous is my position turned against me...
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Exante, a Malta-based broker will now provide a means to investors to take long or short Bitcoin positions and trade shares using its Automatic Trading Platform (ATP). Thus, becoming the first of its kind, Exante which also became the first to introduce the world’s first Bitcoin-only hedge fund last March is all set to promote the crypto-currency for traders.

So since a week ago, you can now short Bitcoin on their account.  Smiley
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HODL OR DIE
Today you can go to http://bitcoinfund.eu/  Account minimum is US$1Mil, though they are reputedly lowering it for Bitcoin only accounts.


I see how I can buy, not how I can short...

Account min was wrong above:
Minimum Account size with EXANTE EUR 100,000.
Minimum Bitcoin Fund transaction size  EUR 10,000

If you want to short, call them up.

Or you can do it the penny-ante way and borrow from coinlenders at a high rate.

Again, I saw that, but I still don't see if they offer any kind of shorting.
https://exante.eu/press/news/314/
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You _could_ short on BFX, routing to Bitstamp, but Bitstamp market depth is nothing like Gox, so....

Yeah, that's why I mentioned >1k BTC.
You can't really short in any meaningful way.
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You _could_ short on BFX, routing to Bitstamp, but Bitstamp market depth is nothing like Gox, so....
sr. member
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Today you can go to http://bitcoinfund.eu/  Account minimum is US$1Mil, though they are reputedly lowering it for Bitcoin only accounts.


I see how I can buy, not how I can short...

Account min was wrong above:
Minimum Account size with EXANTE EUR 100,000.
Minimum Bitcoin Fund transaction size  EUR 10,000

If you want to short, call them up.

Or you can do it the penny-ante way and borrow from coinlenders at a high rate.

Again, I saw that, but I still don't see if they offer any kind of shorting.
legendary
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Antifragile
Keep in mind that there are ETF's and BTC lenders now.
So, Bitcoins can be borrowed and sold short in a numerous ways.
And...
It is a currency according to FinCEN.... so...
The Federal Reserve is within its charter to manipulate it, and with a tiny fraction of one day's money creation, put the price wherever it wants, 50, 5, 500, 50,000.  Whatever suits them, at will, whenever they like.  And they can do it with their reserve banking partners, with as many billions of fiat as they need.

Enter the leviathan, whales beware.
Any facts to back up your bullshit? If they buy the price to $50000 I think I'll be maybe selling...

More likely they will do what they did with gold.  Though that was more expensive.  They dumped about $28billion in a single block trade to break the market down, with an immediate loss of over $1B on the gap down in April.


Well, I think he is saying how will they acquire the BTC. I imagine trade hill and other methods will suffice. But that will only work for a period of time. They can probably keep BTC volatile if need be but I'm sure we will adapt to that as well, we will have to. In a sense, the long term success of BTC depends on the failure of other currencies. By success I mean fully, not just as an online payment method but also a store of value. With the limited float as more and more people acquire it the price will just go higher and higher and the volatility, though it can remain, will shift to much much higher prices. Things like a moderate sized country or the like using it will just add to the strength. I'm sure we have a "fight" ahead of us though...
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Big guys made some panic, now we go up. Best way to hedge against future falls of btc - ASICMINER-PT as always  Grin
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Gresham's Lawyer
Today you can go to http://bitcoinfund.eu/  Account minimum is US$1Mil, though they are reputedly lowering it for Bitcoin only accounts.


I see how I can buy, not how I can short...

Account min was wrong above:
Minimum Account size with EXANTE EUR 100,000.
Minimum Bitcoin Fund transaction size  EUR 10,000

If you want to short, call them up.

Or you can do it the penny-ante way and borrow from coinlenders at a high rate.
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
I bought late last night, and now i wake up to cheaper coins!  Grin

yup going to buy some more!

I love down trends

We are going down to $180?  Grin

yes!

 Grin Grin Grin
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by the way, I love how your picture is so perfectly in tune with your forum personality.  Smiley

Shit... that is a picture of me on Galveston beach. What exactly are you trying to say here chief??  Roll Eyes

Reminds me vaguely of this:



Well, I recently bought a convertible with a supercharged V8 so yeah... no hair gel required when I can do 180 mph hahahaha
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