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Quote from: Rampion on May 16, 2013, 11:39:11 AM

Wow, he actually wrote that. It's clear to me the guy suffers from a textbook "delusion of grandeur", and I'm sure half of this ramblings are just delusions and lies.

As Blitz said, "a crazy guy going nuts"

Honestly, I feel sorry for Rontus (his employee)

I doubt anyone went. I doubt Rontus exists. The supernode conference drama sounded like he took his rejected James Bond script (where he plays James Bond) and he modified it for the supernode conference. At the very least he's autistic. He's entertainment, like a tabloid. You don't really take it seriously.

I don't take him seriously but I do like reading his posts. It's like a man getting eaten by an alligator, you don't want to see it but it's hard to tear your eyes away.

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Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

That picture of him with the Rolls Royce that someone photoshopped and coloured pink now makes me think of him as Parker (or Lady Penelope?) from Thunderbirds

Imagine Parker and Penelope showing off about how expensive their hotel was... and then refusing to pay the bill at the end... FAB...

Not quite the same.

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@coinseeker... you're trying too hard.

Come clean then, have you shorted BTC? Might be easier for you to just give up now and liquidate your position early. It'll be a lot less stressful for you in the long run.

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Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

That picture of him with the Rolls Royce that someone photoshopped and coloured pink now makes me think of him as Parker (or Lady Penelope?) from Thunderbirds

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Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on May 16, 2013, 11:43:08 AM

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It makes them human with their own minds and the ability to think beyond cult talking points.

"own minds" and "nonsense" are different things

Yes, one is an actual part of the human body and the other is a completely subjective statement.

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Quote from: Rampion on May 16, 2013, 11:39:11 AM

Wow, he actually wrote that. It's clear to me the guy suffers from a textbook "delusion of grandeur", and I'm sure half of this ramblings are just delusions and lies.

As Blitz said, "a crazy guy going nuts"

Honestly, I feel sorry for Rontus (his employee)

I doubt anyone went. I doubt Rontus exists. The supernode conference drama sounded like he took his rejected James Bond script (where he plays James Bond) and he modified it for the supernode conference. At the very least he's autistic. He's entertainment, like a tabloid. You don't really take it seriously.

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It makes them human with their own minds and the ability to think beyond cult talking points.

"own minds" and "nonsense" are different things

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 16, 2013, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

Apparently, in a psychiatric hospital.

And @Coinseeker: I am pretty sure Cryptocurrencies will outlive America Grin

"I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki, because I need rest. My physical well-being is taken care of."

yeah, silver in free fall might not be good for him i guess.

Wow, he actually wrote that. It's clear to me the guy suffers from a textbook "delusion of grandeur", and I'm sure half of this ramblings are just delusions and lies.

As Blitz said, "a crazy guy going nuts"

Honestly, I feel sorry for Rontus (his employee)

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Quote from: Richy_T on May 16, 2013, 11:31:16 AM

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 16, 2013, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

Apparently, in a psychiatric hospital.

And @Coinseeker: I am pretty sure Cryptocurrencies will outlive America Grin

"I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki, because I need rest. My physical well-being is taken care of."

yeah, silver in free fall might not be good for him i guess.

Do we have any independent confirmation that the supernode conference actually happened?

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I went to the bitcoin summit and I do not regret going.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2130190

And some guy here in the thread.

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 16, 2013, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

Apparently, in a psychiatric hospital.

And @Coinseeker: I am pretty sure Cryptocurrencies will outlive America Grin

"I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki, because I need rest. My physical well-being is taken care of."

yeah, silver in free fall might not be good for him i guess.

Do we have any independent confirmation that the supernode conference actually happened?

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Quote from: Rampion on May 16, 2013, 11:00:42 AM

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Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 10:29:07 AM

Maybe this is just the arrogant American in me but, without America, Bitcoin is little more than frequent flyer miles. We set the trends, we say what's hot and what's not. Russia? When's the last time anything "cool" ever came out of Russia besides snow? ;D

Don't forget, America is not America without Russian software engineers, for example. Also, Sergey Brin, Google co-founder, comes from Russia.

Google hardly makes "America". Thats as silly as saying there's no America without Apple. ;D

Coinseeker, we've been tolerating your FUD spreading and trolling, but you are really pushing it.

Bitcoin without the USA is no more than frequent flyer miles? "You" set the trends?

What you are saying is beyond stupid. To how many countries have you traveled in your life? What do you know about economy? Do you by chance know the growth % of countries like Russia or China?

You know nothing Coinseeker. Nothing about Bitcoin. Nothing about economics. Nothing about the reality we are heading to.

And you're stupid and superficial American nationalism is an insult to intelligence.

And regarding "all the cools things come from US": make a poll among citizens of all nationalities and ask which is the country doing the uncoolest things ATM. You will surprised by the results. Hint: Guantanamo, drones and so on.

Thanks. This really needed to be said.

Coinseeker switches between outright trolling (e.g. the "only US matters for bitcoin" comments), and semi-serious discussion (for example his response to your post where he admits you have a point). Unfortunately, the majority of his posts in the last few days fall into the first category :/

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 16, 2013, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

And @Coinseeker: I am pretty sure Cryptocurrencies will outlive America Grin

Really? I think the world will run out of oil long before that. When that happens, the world goes dark so, not sure I believe you.

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Quote from: Richy_T on May 16, 2013, 11:17:56 AM

Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 11:05:20 AM

These are really good points and I don't necessarily disagree. I'm not writing Bitcoin's obituary yet, but times are changing faster than Bitcoin developers can keep up, it would seem. I mean, the diehards who have been mining since the beginning should be sitting on 100's of millions of dollars at todays prices. It's really hard to make the legitimate argument that it's still "not big enough", to make the changes and updates the mainstream demands, when you're sitting on that kind of cash. How much "bigger" does it need to get?

But consider how long "Todays prices" would last if someone tried to cash out hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bitcoins. Many of the issues would be issue for the alt-coins too and since some of the issues are due to solid design, where they are not issues for other coins, that is likely because unfortunate compromises have been made in the design. If you just want something simple to use, Paypal and credit cards are there (for their faults, which are many, they are very easy to use).

A little patience is in order. I am sure there is much in the works that we will not be aware of until it launches. I suspect much was started in 2012 but it takes time to go from idea to design to implementation to testing to release.

Ironically, the thing probably most holding Bitcoin back now is the weaknesses of the methods it was designed to supplant. Payments are reversible, governments control banks. Surely, one day it will break free from that constraint but in the meantime, solving this issue would be a real killer app.

Again, these are really good and fair points. I was speaking more to the incentive side, for getting things done and that doesn't require cashing out. Seeing an investment that initially was worth pennies, and seeing it now should be incentive enough. But this is why I'm hopeful of Ripple. They make up for many of Bitcoins issues, in one fail swoop. It does not make Bitcoin development irrelevant, actually its the opposite. But with decentralization comes the downside of things being unorganized. It's hard to get things done when everyone is disorganized. I'm sure you can agree with that.

Simple is what the masses want. That's why Paypal is successful. Couple that with rediculously low transaction fees and the ability to come in and out of the financial sectors of the world through gateways, and you've got the future of world currency. Bitcoin is just one piece of that. It must learn to coexist with the rest of world currencies.

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Quote from: dexX7 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:40 AM

Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

Apparently, in a psychiatric hospital.

And @Coinseeker: I am pretty sure Cryptocurrencies will outlive America Grin

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Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 11:05:20 AM

These are really good points and I don't necessarily disagree. I'm not writing Bitcoin's obituary yet, but times are changing faster than Bitcoin developers can keep up, it would seem. I mean, the diehards who have been mining since the beginning should be sitting on 100's of millions of dollars at todays prices. It's really hard to make the legitimate argument that it's still "not big enough", to make the changes and updates the mainstream demands, when you're sitting on that kind of cash. How much "bigger" does it need to get?

But consider how long "Todays prices" would last if someone tried to cash out hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bitcoins. Many of the issues would be issue for the alt-coins too and since some of the issues are due to solid design, where they are not issues for other coins, that is likely because unfortunate compromises have been made in the design. If you just want something simple to use, Paypal and credit cards are there (for their faults, which are many, they are very easy to use).

A little patience is in order. I am sure there is much in the works that we will not be aware of until it launches. I suspect much was started in 2012 but it takes time to go from idea to design to implementation to testing to release.

Ironically, the thing probably most holding Bitcoin back now is the weaknesses of the methods it was designed to supplant. Payments are reversible, governments control banks. Surely, one day it will break free from that constraint but in the meantime, solving this issue would be a real killer app.

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Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

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Quote from: Rampion on May 16, 2013, 11:00:42 AM

Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 10:49:50 AM

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on May 16, 2013, 10:48:08 AM

Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 10:29:07 AM

Maybe this is just the arrogant American in me but, without America, Bitcoin is little more than frequent flyer miles. We set the trends, we say what's hot and what's not. Russia? When's the last time anything "cool" ever came out of Russia besides snow? Grin

Don't forget, America is not America without Russian software engineers, for example. Also, Sergey Brin, Google co-founder, comes from Russia.

Google hardly makes "America". Thats as silly as saying there's no America without Apple. Grin

And regarding "all the cools things come from US": make a poll among citizens of all nationalities and ask which is the country doing the uncoolest things ATM. You will surprised by the results. Hint: Guantanamo, drones and so on.

I think the top uncool things would probably go to the middle east. I personally think drones are awesome but hey, that's just me.

Don't feed the trolls. Grin

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Quote from: infofront on April 16, 2013, 06:32:22 PM

Posting guild lines:
Please lets keep this thread clean. ( I will be removing any off topic posts )
Do not post random comments on this thread, unless it is directly related to the last wall update (ex. The 20K ask was was NOT sold into, it was removed after being tested)

So did adamstgBit just give up on moderating, or what?

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Quote from: Richy_T on May 16, 2013, 10:56:29 AM

Quote from: Coinseeker on May 16, 2013, 10:42:07 AM

This assumes technology moves like molasses, which is in fact...not reality. Crypto currency is now on the map and Bitcoin can easily get left behind by another crypto currency. So, your devotion to the name "Bitcoin" is I guess, similar to my devotion to my country. Although, my country will be here long after Bitcoin is dead, as will the US dollar remain the most popular currency on the planet. Hey, maybe the USG will create the crypto form of the US dollar just to ward off the little wannabes.

Something could come along that's better than Bitcoin but I happen to think that based on the Bitcoin design, that would be a very hard thing to do. Many of the alt-coins are based on some very odd beliefs about reality and economics (some of which happen to be mainstream but that will just allow their notions to be proven fallacious in a free market). Bitcoin has it's issues right now but most of those are pretty easily solvable. There's no need to run a full client, just look at Bitcoinspinner for example. Payment addresses add a lot of complexity at the moment but that can fairly trivially be solved by mapping email addresses or domain names to public keys. In fact it would be fairly trivial to write an app which would allow you to enter an email address and an amount of bitcoins and the bitcoins be stored in a temporary wallet to be collected by the recipient at their leisure (if this hasn't been done already).

Many Bitcoin issues stem from the fact that it's simply not big enough yet to make it worthwhile to have the kind of infrastructure that it will eventually need. That doesn't mean it won't be there. Some of us remember no Paypal, no Ebay and Amazon just sold books and Archie and Gopher were not just footnotes.

These are really good points and I don't necessarily disagree. I'm not writing Bitcoin's obituary yet, but times are changing faster than Bitcoin developers can keep up, it would seem. I mean, the diehards who have been mining since the beginning should be sitting on 100's of millions of dollars at todays prices. It's really hard to make the legitimate argument that it's still "not big enough", to make the changes and updates the mainstream demands, when you're sitting on that kind of cash. How much "bigger" does it need to get?

What I think is the diehards are lazy. They made their money and they're content just ridding this thing our as is. That's fine but it will soon be old news if this thinking and lack of action continues. My opinions of course.

BTW-I remember pre-internet. Life before pagers. I remember the first fax machine commercial that ever came on TV talking about how you could send a piece of paper from one place to another. WOW! And...I still remember connecting my Atari to the back of a console tv, using a screw driver. Grin

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Quote from: Rampion on May 16, 2013, 11:00:42 AM

And regarding "all the cools things come from US": make a poll among citizens of all nationalities and ask which is the country doing the uncoolest things ATM. You will surprised by the results. Hint: Guantanamo, drones and so on.

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