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legendary
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That makes sense. But there is someone trying to drive the price up. Reminds me to a similar situation in the 60s just after the -> 53 crash.

Could also be a classic bull - bear fight. Now bear has dumped 2k to 131 - we'll see if bull reacts.
That bear was actually driving the price down. Stupidly placing a 1.5k wall lower and lower before finally panicing and selling into the 132 wall. That seems like compete amateur crap to me rather than manipulation attempt. The person actually thought someone was going to just buy their large'ish wall on a low volume Saturday but instead they just created a resistance and no one bought, thus the price couldn't go anywhere but down, and they chased it for the last couple hours, always lowering the 1.5k. In the end it went from 135 to 133 and finally they gave up and sold into the 132 bid wall. HAHAH what a joke.

TBH most of the time I read manipulator here I mentally replace the word with 'amateur trader'. Sure, the market is manipulated as all markets are, but not every trade that moves the market is a 'manipulation'. A lot of it is just overly emotional trading (panic at potentially missing an opportunity)
Lots of paranoia here me thinks  Tongue


I agree  Cheesy
hero member
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That makes sense. But there is someone trying to drive the price up. Reminds me to a similar situation in the 60s just after the -> 53 crash.

Could also be a classic bull - bear fight. Now bear has dumped 2k to 131 - we'll see if bull reacts.
That bear was actually driving the price down. Stupidly placing a 1.5k wall lower and lower before finally panicing and selling into the 132 wall. That seems like compete amateur crap to me rather than manipulation attempt. The person actually thought someone was going to just buy their large'ish wall on a low volume Saturday but instead they just created a resistance and no one bought, thus the price couldn't go anywhere but down, and they chased it for the last couple hours, always lowering the 1.5k. In the end it went from 135 to 133 and finally they gave up and sold into the 132 bid wall. HAHAH what a joke.

TBH most of the time I read manipulator here I mentally replace the word with 'amateur trader'. Sure, the market is manipulated as all markets are, but not every trade that moves the market is a 'manipulation'. A lot of it is just overly emotional trading (panic at potentially missing an opportunity)
Lots of paranoia here me thinks  Tongue
legendary
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Seems you are right, a low-volume buy brought price again to 133-134.

Time to do other things ...
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That makes sense. But there is someone trying to drive the price up. Reminds me to a similar situation in the 60s just after the -> 53 crash.

Could also be a classic bull - bear fight. Now bear has dumped 2k to 131 - we'll see if bull reacts.
That bear was actually driving the price down. Stupidly placing a 1.5k wall lower and lower before finally panicing and selling into the 132 wall. That seems like compete amateur crap to me rather than manipulation attempt. The person actually thought someone was going to just buy their large'ish wall on a low volume Saturday but instead they just created a resistance and no one bought, thus the price couldn't go anywhere but down, and they chased it for the last couple hours, always lowering the 1.5k. In the end it went from 135 to 133 and finally they gave up and sold into the 132 bid wall. HAHAH what a joke.

Yeah, that was weird to watch. When the wall came down to $133 I was hoping someone would just snatch it up, teach the guy a lesson until he dumped it and I realized it's just a confused bear with too many coins.
legendary
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That makes sense. But there is someone trying to drive the price up. Reminds me to a similar situation in the 60s just after the -> 53 crash.

Could also be a classic bull - bear fight. Now bear has dumped 2k to 131 - we'll see if bull reacts.
That bear was actually driving the price down. Stupidly placing a 1.5k wall lower and lower before finally panicing and selling into the 132 wall. That seems like compete amateur crap to me rather than manipulation attempt. The person actually thought someone was going to just buy their large'ish wall on a low volume Saturday but instead they just created a resistance and no one bought, thus the price couldn't go anywhere but down, and they chased it for the last couple hours, always lowering the 1.5k. In the end it went from 135 to 133 and finally they gave up and sold into the 132 bid wall. HAHAH what a joke.
legendary
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That makes sense. But there is someone trying to drive the price up. Reminds me to a similar situation in the 60s just after the -> 53 crash.

Could also be a classic bull - bear fight. Now bear has dumped 2k to 131 - we'll see if bull reacts.
hero member
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For me, there is someone trying to stabilize the price in the mid-130s. Someone big. Perhaps MtGox?
For me the lack of volume does not support this theory
Mt Gox make money when there is volume and that generally comes with movement and volatility ... price stability, though welcome in the long term is currently contrary to their interests as I see it.

hero member
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For me, there is someone trying to stabilize the price in the mid-130s. Someone big. Perhaps MtGox?

that is fine with me!!!
legendary
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For me, there is someone trying to stabilize the price in the mid-130s. Someone big. Perhaps MtGox?
hero member
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Still looks to me like we've got a bit of downward movement on the cards ...
OK ... that's too vague ... I think we will test 120 with decent volume and probably high volatility (105-135 range) ... will it hold, I dont know. I expect a fierce battle though.
legendary
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Slight upward trend. This is usually a bullish signal. My prediction is that the price will rise to 139 quite soon. This is little more than pure speculation, though.
More important than the trendline is the demand curve. Which is marginally bullish, at least in the range you zoomed too.
That is a super short timeframe unfortunately, channels don't really mean anything for timeframes this short.  Smiley
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Slight upward trend. This is usually a bullish signal. My prediction is that the price will rise to 139 quite soon. This is little more than pure speculation, though.
More important than the trendline is the demand curve. Which is marginally bullish, at least in the range you zoomed too.
legendary
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
Here is the comparison of Google Trends for the term "buy bitcoin" and Mt.Gox price in the period of the last 90 days.

These two graphs are following the same pattern.

Can we say Google Trends is a good measure of how many NEW interested buyers are coming to BTC market?

I don't say that this is a good prediction tool, but on the other hand, it's a good additional tool for making decisions, because it puts more realism by removing big fish speculators noise from the graph.

You do realize that the google trends 'pattern' is a lagging indicator at best, right?
sr. member
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Slight upward trend. This is usually a bullish signal. My prediction is that the price will rise to 139 quite soon. This is little more than pure speculation, though.
full member
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During the months of the year when ice cream sales goes up we can see a significant rise in the amount of drowning accidents. Therefore, ice cream causes drownings.

Or, maybe drownings make people want to buy ice cream.

Or, there is some other factor.
hero member
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Gox queue length and total bids are a good measure of new buyers (or at least new money).  All else is irrelevant.
hero member
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Here is the comparison of Google Trends for the term "buy bitcoin" and Mt.Gox price in the period of the last 90 days.

These two graphs are following the same pattern.

Can we say Google Trends is a good measure of how many NEW interested buyers are coming to BTC market?

I don't say that this is a good prediction tool, but on the other hand, it's a good additional tool for making decisions, because it puts more realism by removing big fish speculators noise from the graph.
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Black indeed. I'm looking forward to it..  Grin

Let's begin and we will see where it ends.
legendary
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The price is not considered a bargain as its still remaining in this range..I'm betting for a black monday..

And your definition for "black" goes something like...

...it crashes through rpietila's support line of $115, goes all the way to $95, enabling rpietila to invest the proceeds of last week's OTC trades (about 700 grams of gold, 22 kg of silver, EUR 28k cash, 60k bank money) with 30% better exchange rate that he would otherwise get, and bounces back to barely above $110, closing the month with a +15% green candle.

Black indeed. I'm looking forward to it..  Grin

Me too. But I won't discard the price to go straight up, just barely touching $125... There are bullish signs everywhere, including very positive media attention despite the bubble burst, which every day looks more like a simple correction.
donator
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The price is not considered a bargain as its still remaining in this range..I'm betting for a black monday..

And your definition for "black" goes something like...

...it crashes through rpietila's support line of $115, goes all the way to $95, enabling rpietila to invest the proceeds of last week's OTC trades (about 700 grams of gold, 22 kg of silver, EUR 28k cash, 60k bank money) with 30% better exchange rate that he would otherwise get, and bounces back to barely above $110, closing the month with a +15% green candle.

Black indeed. I'm looking forward to it..  Grin
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