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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 512. (Read 26497864 times)

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OT: The clearest sign that humanity is doomed?

That every high profile tech company (except for Bitcoin), with stocks that keep rising, has a narrative that is a long term bet against humanity.

That's why the Average Joe investors with a conscious don't understand modern day investing: that in order to make money, you have to bet against humanity's future.

Powell: now only one rate cut, jobs data was a "bit" overstated.
Only AI related companies "doing well".

US economy sounds like trash. $1 trillion per year on debt interest. Madness.

UK even worse. No ideas for growth during election cycle. "Green economy" "Wealth tax".
Good luck. GDP Per Capita stagnating and even going down.

Still inflation...

We are all doomed. The end is near....


...and now I have to go empty the dishwasher and feed the cats...



Exactly!

Why should any American, or any immigrant who lives in the one country which holds the world's reserve currency and can just print more,
ever be worried about stagnating growth elsewhere?








legendary
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born once atheist
OT: The clearest sign that humanity is doomed?

That every high profile tech company (except for Bitcoin), with stocks that keep rising, has a narrative that is a long term bet against humanity.

That's why the Average Joe investors with a conscious don't understand modern day investing: that in order to make money, you have to bet against humanity's future.

Powell: now only one rate cut, jobs data was a "bit" overstated.
Only AI related companies "doing well".

US economy sounds like trash. $1 trillion per year on debt interest. Madness.

UK even worse. No ideas for growth during election cycle. "Green economy" "Wealth tax".
Good luck. GDP Per Capita stagnating and even going down.

Still inflation...

We are all doomed. The end is near....


...and now I have to go empty the dishwasher and feed the cats...

legendary
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Today Microstrategy announced the early call of a Convertible bond for 650 millions, and the issue of a new one up to 575 millions.






Can you translate the financial institutional fuckery language here for those of us that opt out.








From Google

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A security is a fungible, negotiable financial instrument that represents some type of financial value, usually in the form of a stock, bond, or option. A senior convertible note is a debt security that contains an option making the note convertible into a predefined amount of the issuer's shares


Google Gemini.
I asked: Explain to a 3 year old what a convertible senior note exactly is:
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A convertible senior note is a bit grown-up stuff, even for grown-ups to understand sometimes! But here's a fun way to think about it:

Imagine you're giving someone a special kind of IOU. It's like saying, "I owe you some money, but you can also choose to get a special toy instead!"

The money is like the loan the company gets.
The person you give the IOU to is like the person who lends the company money.
The special toy is like the company's stock (which you might know as those little pieces of paper that show ownership of a company).
So, the lender can either get their money back after a certain time (like 3 years you mentioned!), or they can choose to swap their IOU for a piece of the company, kind of like owning a part of the company's toy box!

This is a very simplified explanation, but hopefully, it gives you a basic idea of what a convertible senior note is like.

How shit is that "AI", btw? "like 3 years you mentioned!".

Utter claptrap.

$2 trillion.  

Cheesy
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Today Microstrategy announced the early call of a Convertible bond for 650 millions, and the issue of a new one up to 575 millions.




Will be heading out to the supermarket later and therefore...

I hereby announce the private offering of around £100 of convertible senior notes. #BitcoinBunny

Any takers? Tesco? Waitrose? Asda? Bueller?
legendary
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70's now gone?  
You'll never see sub $70K prices ever again.

That did not age well.

70's now gone?  

You'll never see sub $70K prices ever again.

are you doing reverse proudhon here ?  ... unfortunately it doesn't seem to work, just like proudhons predictions

I think it did, given I posted it after price had already dropped below $70K... sometimes I forget sarcasm is lost on the internet  Cheesy



By the way, I saw where you later said that it was a joke, and recall that even though we went down to around $56,500 around April 30, we are still having trouble getting down to some of the lower levels that you had been considering to be so probable.. yet sure, at the same time, we have not yet gotten to $80k or supra $80k numbers either.. so surely interesting times to have had been consolidating mostly between $60k and $70k for around 3.5 months-ish.

Yes, it looks a lot more interesting now after all this consolidation, and increasingly likely the break-out will be definitive once it occurs - ie continue in that direction for months to come once it happens. Price looks pretty indecisive still, given higher bullish and bearish volume candles cancelling themselves out in recent days. Given the low volume, it could certainly go either way from here. I'm still anticipating a continued correction since we've been failing to maintain the previous cycle ATH for so long now, which has never been a problem before in previous cycles, as well as other factors such as failing to continue to the upside from $68-70K levels back in March, which was the mid-cycle top potential, similar to summer 2019, and completely the opposite to December 2020 when price pierced through it with ease at $21K. Now ironically it's around $89K which would be the next target for a mid-cycle correction, but I'd happily concede that at that level a mid-cycle correction is unlikely to play out, so would probably be somewhat irrelevant it seems.

Additionally the miner capitulation hash ribbons post-havling signal last month (like clockwork) suggesting further consolidation/correction rather than immediate upside, which has generally been pretty reliable over the cycles, and so far is playing out even though it's only been a few weeks. So while at present price still looks/structured bullish, above longer-term MAs etc, there are bearish macro factors in play which wasn't the case a few months ago when I was speculating about a correction or consolidation as opposed to immediate further upside. This is nearly always the case with a few months of consolidation within a range at the highs, similar to early 2021 between $50K and $60K, where there were warning signs prior to a 50% correction. Of course we could look back and blame the China ban that was the catalyst, but this is generally irrelevant; the market was fragile enough for a state actor to take advantage, whereas if the market was full-blown bullish it would have barely had any effect on bullish momentum. Naturally a buy signal could otherwise turn this around to parabolic-bullish pretty swiftly like in July 2020, so as I said initially, it could quite easily go either way even if there are bearish warning signs that lack follow through.

Price strength is otherwise flirting with getting rejected from overbought levels, similar to November 2021, which while I don't believe will lead to a "major" correction (ie -75%), it could still lead to a significant correction before a 2025 bull market takes off, as there is a still most of two quarters left in the year, so plenty of time. At least historically, this type of a rejection often leads to a around a 25-35% correction, or alternatively a few months of consolidation (ie on top of the few months we've already had), which doesn't seem like a crazy idea anymore (ie 6 months consolidation). But again this is a case of if price is able to comfortably return to and maintain overbought levels, then there is a lot of room to the upside between an RSI of 70 and one of 90, similar to $35K to $45K move, or $42K to $69K. So generally, there's a lot more reason to be cautious at current prices compared to 3 months ago, even if not quite bearish if price can hold $60K support level. I just personally think price will struggle to do that, as was the case last month, whereas this time around returning to these support levels will be a lot worse, for example breaking the 20 Week MA around $63K has been a reliable signal for a deeper correction to come, and hasn't happened since last year.

It otherwise generally seems likes longer-term OTC sellers are distributing to ETFs, hence the range-bound price right now, given the relatively low spot volume in recent weeks/months, the continued accumulation (overall) from ETFs, and otherwise HODL waves showing longer-term holders taking profits. This seems also pretty clear from number of Bitcoins produced per day vs accumulation from ETFs. It's been said for months that this imbalance would lead to much higher prices (such as yourself), but so far this hasn't happened, and based on the low spot volume, the selling must be coming from elsewhere like OTC. This seems to be the current battle in play, and whether the current price range will be confirmed as an accumulation zone by ETF buyers, or a distribution zone for OTC sellers, isn't possible to assess until it happens.

Aside from how much bitcoin ETFs have aggressively been accumulating (around ~5% of total supply last I checked), I don't doubt that OTC sellers have a lot more than that on offer to sell at current prices if they continue as they have been. So this range could last another few months at this rate, until sellers run out of coins to sell, or otherwise ETFs slow down or stop accumulating. Generally I think it's best to let these whales play games between themselves, and let it play out, as there could be a bear whale / bull whale type of event that happens behind closed doors that would catch a lot of people off guard. So anyone longing or shorting on leverage within this range need to be extremely carefully, already the recent chop is a major warning sign that there is a determined battle between different entities or groups of bulls and bears at present. That might sound like a dramatic or exaggerated analysis of current price movement/range, but bear in mind the bulls are acting transparently via ETF accumulation that's well documented, while OTC bears are far from transparent with their dealings, so in this case I'd say have the slight upper hand, because no-one is really able to track how much they are selling or how much they have to sell.

Obviously this is just my opinion, generally just weighing the odds of the bullish market structure with my interpretation of the bearish warning signs, as well as some analysis of why I think price has been ranging for so long, and why the consolidation could also now continue. Ideally someone would provide another argument for this beyond "price suppression" which is generally a meaningless phrase unless backed up by facts or legitimate theories. Admittedly my scepticism about immediate continued upside has grown over the past few months, because I doubted that price would go much higher, and that a new ATH would be sustainable, based on hypotheticals and speculation, which so far has been the case. The fact price hasn't considerably correction yet is somewhat irrelevant, as I accepted that it would likely take months to play out if it were to occur.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Today Microstrategy announced the early call of a Convertible bond for 650 millions, and the issue of a new one up to 575 millions.






Can you translate the financial institutional fuckery language here for those of us that opt out.






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Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
Today Microstrategy announced the early call of a Convertible bond for 650 millions, and the issue of a new one up to 575 millions.


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After seeing all the super-computers in here, my i7-5820 isn't cutting it anymore.  I'm going to have to get more serious about my desktop upgrade.  I just bought my youngest a 16" Lenovo Slim 5 with a Ryzen 5-7530U so I could take back my little 13" Asus Zenbook (I love the all metal case) and it's much more powerful than my desktop.  Heck, the Zenbook isn't much slower than my desktop.  This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.

hey

I have a nice thread ripper rig  sitting in a box.
128gb ram
aorus nvme2 500gb ssd and 20 or 30 rtx 3090 gpus



it would crush your i7-5820

 You bastard!  Wink


you did a lot giving hats out for us. pm me

 Awww thanks philipma1957, I appreciate the thought but my wife is poised, with checkbook in hand, to cut me a check for a new machine as soon as I make up my mind as to exactly what I want.   I'm still trying to digest all the advice and research material you guys gave me.


Nice...don't forget to share the setup, please.

 Definitely!
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Banks have obviously encouraged themselves to take a more serious approach to BTC, of ​​course all because they can trade it through ETFs. On the one hand, it is good for the price, because the demand could jump, but all those people who will invest in this way are actually buying shares in the fund, and will probably never use BTC in the way it was intended.
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My advice to those buying PCs:

- Don't buy a laptop (unless you need to move it regularly),
- Don't buy a branded desktop,
- Build your own desktop PC,
- Obvious: pick a good chipset / socket / CPU / GPU,
- Put as much RAM as you can (at least 128 GB),
- Use plenty of Samsung M.2 NVMe storage modules,
- Important: buy a big, BIG, high quality monitor (at least 34").

I prefer a 27-inch curved screen (I even have one), I considered a larger one, but it seemed to melt my eyes.

But what you said, I completely agree, I built my computer myself, without even having experience in it (thanks YouTube)... it's not that difficult, everything is done to make assembly easier... And it is still possible to save a lot of money and have a personalized computer of extreme quality.
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
Also important for new builders:

[...]

- Check compatibility of everything before ordering (Mobo - CPU - RAM)
- Spend some money on the PSU. Get a good reputable brand.
- Do not think more thermal paste = better cooling.

Good points, especially the first. I've been bitten by this once--bought two expensive RAM modules, which kept crashing my system (were not on the mobo compatibility list).

Also, liquid cooling is very efficient, but I don't like the feeling of having liquid flowing inside the PC case. I prefer good air cooling.

Finally, I'm not a fan of overclocking. I run the CPU / GPU at stock frequencies.
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