Topic: Warning Cryptopia !!! No payout - page 2. (Read 40015 times)

Ya know,  @jag, your the biggest asshole on this thread. The only one who is illiterate is YOU, you stupid fucker!!! My account at Cryptopia will never be locked because I'm not an asshole loser like you. Of course because bull shit you spread along with your clan, is on the internet makes it all true right??? What a joke you are. You have to have the last word don't you even though your look like a complete moron every time you respond. I'm glad your account is locked and coins are gone. You deserve all that's happened and even more loser!!!

@misbhavn: Did you even read the posts right above your text?  Holy crap where does hex keep finding all these illiterate trolls, plz read before typing lol.

Just scroll up a few posts ..... how is anything you have typed applicable? Also where do you see he said she said? hex and adam admit this.

I guarantee he will lock your account, its only a matter of time, ask around. This isn't the only thread this convo is going on check fb or cct or well try googling if you think its only me filing this bs lol.

Agree this thread should be locked. It sounds like a bunch of whiny school girls with all the "he said, they said, he did, they did" bullshit!!! I thought by now you would have grown some balls and moved on to better things, yet here you still are jag, crying. If Hex and sa_ddam have stolen coins then what are you waiting for to get the proper authorities involved and have them charged with theft? Not only you, but all the others who say their coins were stolen? Apparently your not worried about the coins as much as you say. Appears your more interested in continuing to spread fud instead of stepping up and fighting for what you say was stolen from you. All I know if my account was locked and coins stolen, someone would be paying dearly and I wouldn't  give a shit if they were in NZ or Hell. Heads would roll and not through a pathetic thread either!

It's amusing that hex disappeared and then this idiot pops in. Considering it is nothing but a troll account on multiple websites I think we've found somebodies alt account.

Unlike hex, I say whatever I want point blank. I don't have to hide behind alt accounts spouting bullshit when I lose.

@Argon18

Ya threatened one of their family members  = false
Ya threatened to have some Gov. Agency arrest them= reported to several no threat there.
Ya threatened to sue them = Waiting on the lawyer. no threat there.
Ya threatened to hack them= I have not threatened anyone. So false.
Ya threaten to threatened Them with being drug users= nobody threatened them with this they admit it lol...


What fool of a troll you are sir, try to stop kissing hexs ass for a sec and try to read.

No one except ya , and ya 20 different fake names,

Ya threatened one of their family members ,
Ya threatened to have some Gov. Agency arrest dem,
Ya threatened to sue them ,
Ya threatened to hack them,
Ya threaten to threated dem with being drug users,

And dat only from readin this forum.

Ya the Liar behind TronRex , claiming to help git kids off of heroin, dat is rich.
Excuse me , ya english daddy is rich, ya went to a private school in India, and the 2 ear rings send da wrong message, unless dat is what ya shootin for.

Ya just a Little Little LIAR.

And what have ya accomplished, Nothin !!!
Their exchange is still runnin, and ya still whining!!!
Guess dat what ya Babies do best is whine!

Here if ya want to read about an exchange that actually did lie and rip people off,
here ya go , it is called CRYPTSY.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptsy-stopping-withdraw-locking-accounts-without-notifying-users-class-action-1173703

Just Sayin,
AG18

Nobody threatened anyone hex. If that's the best excuse you have for taking mass accounts.  Then lol to you sir...you are welcome for the servers, as long as everyone knows how you got them I am happy

If your company is not a money market then why did you falsely represent it as such when creating your business?

What is the case number that you supposedly have with the crime division?

As far as hacking, if I wanted to hack you I would simply destroy your exchange. Not bother myself with a forum account that's not worth anything. Then again, your exchange isn't worth hacking anyway. If I wanted to steal a few bucks I would simply rob someone walking down the street.

You know what? I had actually forgotten about that, so thanks for reminding me. We picked that at the time of incorporation because it sounded like the best fit at the time, being that it was before the IRD had even weighed in on what they considered Cryptocurrencies to be. I've just updated to to closer reflect what we actually do, happy?


Who does the FMA regulate?

Qualifying financial entities - not us.
Fund Managers, Futures dealers, DIMS providers, Derivatives issuers - not us.
Securities trustees and statutory supervisors, Auditors, Independent trustees - not us.
Issuers, NZX - not us.
KiwiSaver providers, Superannuation schemes - not us.
Financial Advisers, Crowd funding platforms, peer-to-peer lenders - not us.

Qualifying Financial Entities (QFEs) are firms or groups providing financial advice on their own account. They take responsibility for financial advice provided by their employees and contractors.  - not us.

Fund managers are recognised in the FMC Act as managers of registered schemes.  - not us.

Financial advisers include Authorised Financial Advisers (AFAs); Registered Financial Advisers (RFAs); and advisers in Qualifying Financial Entities (QFEs).  - not us.

Securities trustees and statutory supervisors include debt securities trustees; trustees of unit trusts; KiwiSaver trustees; and supervisors of other investment schemes.  - not us.

Auditors include accredited bodies; licensed New Zealand auditors; registered audit firms; and licensed overseas auditors. FMA’s auditor regulation applies only to audits of issuers.  - not us.

Issuers include equity securities; debt securities; investment life insurance; managed funds; superannuation; and contributory mortgage brokers.  - not us.

NZX (registered exchange) including NZSX (main board); NZAX (alternative market); NZDX (debt market); FSM (Fonterra shareholders market); and NZCX (derivatives market). - not us.


So was I, and it wasn't?


Jag was just saying about how we only recently added R18 so we could specifically steal from children, so if you don't see the relevance then *shrug*


You're really starting to stretch here right? Cryptsy didn't do fuck all in the way of development, or adding new features, or even new platforms. Cryptsy apparently kept all their coins in the same god damned kernel, so their hosting costs were probably on the cheap side. And Cryptsy had literally more than 130 times more bitcoin go missing than is even on our site. So I'll ask again, why would we throw away 2 years of our lives, and 10s of thousands of dollars we've put into the company for less than the time and money we've put into it?


You really have no idea how any of this works right? You know that your site balance has nothing to do with wallet balances right? You know, cos the site balance is made up from an audit of all your deposits and withdraws and trades and transfers and everything else you can do on the site. In order to change you balance, we'd have to add or remove deposits, add or remove trades(which would affect other people's balances too), we can't just change your balance. You know when you withdraw coins they're not the same coins you sent in right? The wont necessarily come from the same address you deposited to right? Do you think when you withdraw cash from your bank you're getting the exact same money you deposited? How do you think cold wallets works? We don't put in withdraws for random users, those coins don't come from any users balances in particular, and it doesn't affect any users balances either. A lot of people thought their coins were still with Cryptsy right until the last minute. But hey don't let logic get in the way of a good FUD and shit smearing campaign.


We've already told jag several times his account wont be unlocked while we have an open case with the New Zealand Cyber Crime division, but he only has himself to blame for this.

Is all you do lie? Or do you just "remember it differently"? That's not how it went down and this is getting really tiresome. Jag came in and had a big tantrum about me supposedly pissing some people off, when asked who I pissed off, he wouldn't tell me, when asked how I pissed them off, he wouldn't tell me, in fact he kept saying "IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS", then he started saying shit like we stole all his ideas for the exchange, and that he basically made the place, and that he brought all our users, and that if he left, all of our users would leave, and that he was gonna DOX us (so scary right, it' not like all our details like our real names and addresses and shit aren't already several places on the site) so yeah I told him to fuck off, and I banned him from chat, and chat only. Then he continued to use the site for months, it wasn't until months later he made a second account to get around his chat ban and him and his buddies started saying they were gonna DDoS us, and hack us, and threatened sa_ddam213's wife and kids that accounts started being locked.


Who's wallets were they waiting for? Their own I take it? Usually doesn't take months to sync up a blockchain unless it's a particularly shitcoin.


Not sure what you're talking about, I didn't go to anyone about anything. Did say on the site that we would be delisting any coins who associated with these clowns. They threatened to hack us, leaving their coins on our site doesn't seem like the brightest idea to me.


Do I have to keep repeating myself? You guys aren't bored of this bullshit yet?

And funny how someone just started trying to (unsuccessfully) break into my bitcointalk account, guess you're not done trying to hack us? You guys are so fucking pathetic.

1 . Your business is registered as a money market so yes, it does in fact deal with the FMA and you are obligated to do as they say.

2. The cyber crime agency has nothing to do with your legal obligations concerning your business and any disciplinary actions you take against your clients regarding the FMA.

3. I was there when Adam was supposedly threatened and that is false.

4. Wanting some gifs removed or asking to ban swearing has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

5. Cryptsy.. should be enough said there to call bullshit on the 'time and money' you put in and about your comment regarding locking accounts. It always starts off small. A little here, a little there then greed kicks in and you slowly move up the ladder until oops, we got hacked and funds were stolen then shutting down.

6. Locking accounts prevents the client from seeing that their coins are gone or still there, it also denies them access to whats rightfully theirs to take.

7. Whether crypto currencies are classified as money or property in your country it is illegal to just take either one of those.

8. Don't forget that I was present for the majority of what went down before you stole their 'property'. You were treating people like shit and insulting clients that were brought to you by Jag and company. When you were confronted about it and asked to stop you ended up locking several accounts and taking their money.

9. They were in the process of removing their funds but had to wait for wallets. I know this because I offered them an avenue through me to withdraw some of them so those coins were no longer there.

Hell, you even tried to go to my sponsors when I drew attention to this fact and attempted to get them to drop me. That didn't work out too well for you did it.

Just a small example of the petty shit you do at your exchange. How is that making the crypto world safer or a better place? Why would anyone besides children who don't know any better want to subject themselves to abuse from a site owner and why would the site owner abuse those that speak up about it?

If you had done this to me I would have already contacted the authorities as well as your domain and hosting providers to inform them of the blatant theft of my 'property'. But, as you know, my account wasn't worth locking as I never kept any large amount of coins there.

Regardless of all the above, just answer this one simple question.

Why haven't you returned their money yet?

Then you'd know that cryptocurrency is considered property in New Zealand, right? Nothing to do with the FMA? Right? And what, Jag didn't tell you the part where we already reported our actions to thew New Zealand Cyber Crime division? You know, on account of him and his buddies threatening to hack us and DDoS us and all the other bullshit threats they made against us? Y'know, the reason accounts were locked in the first place? He didn't mention any of that? Weird.

Or the part where for months before his account was locked he was telling people we were thieves and not to use our site and that the company was going to fail and go under, and all the other bullshit he's made up and yet the whole time he continued to use the site and have coins sitting on the site. Isn't it weird that he'd do that? You know, considering he thought we were thieves and all, isn't it weird that he kept using the site and didn't withdraw his coins? That's weird right? Isn't that weird? Weird that his account was left alone for months while he was spewing all that bullshit... Y'know, until him and his buddies started making threats. Did he not mention the part where sa_ddam213's wife and kids were threatened? Did he not mention that part? So weird.

And isn't it weird how even before all that, they came to us, and asked us to remove a bunch of GIFs from the chat, and to ban swearing, and to add a section to the forum specifically so a bunch of school kids could use the site to learn about cryptocurrency, and we told them no it's an R18 site, and we didn't want kids on it? And then they apparently just did it any way? Isn't that just so weird?

Isn't it weird how we've supposedly broken all these laws, and stolen all this "money" and we haven't heard anything from the police? So fucking weird right? Just really weird.

We've both personally put more money into this site that than there is a dollar value on the coins currently on the site, wouldn't it be weird for us to throw not just that away, but two years of our lives for that piddly little amount? Wouldn't that be weird? Especially considering how many faster and easier ways there would be to scam people. Wouldn't it be weird to go about scamming people by putting in thousands of hours and dollars into building a better platform than what's available anywhere else? Wouldn't that be so weird?

And wouldn't it be weird to lock accounts specifically for the purpose of stealing coins? Like don't we have direct control of all the wallets? Wouldn't locking accounts serve only to draw attention to the alleged theft taking place? Wouldn't locking accounts be a fucking weird thing to do?

So weird.

You can act stupid all you want, the law is the law and your terms won't protect you from it as laws supersede any bullshit you think you can hide behind.

I'm not going to sit here and play games with you, but I'd be really interested in seeing your explanation as to why you didn't report your disciplinary actions taken against them to the Financial Markets Authority like you should have done for each account you froze. Not doing so is a violation of your license and I'd be really interested in finding out the penalty for that.

Could it be because they would investigate your reasoning behind locking and taking their assets and would find you at fault forcing you to not only unlock their accounts but to return their money with damages?

Oh, I would highly suggest you take a look at New Zealand's laws regarding The Fair Trading Act of 1986 while you are at it. Some interesting stuff is located in those files.

It's pretty shitty when an American knows more about your laws than you do.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150113065427/https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/

https://web.archive.org/web/20150113125700/https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Terms

Yawn.

Hex has no shame, he will steal from kids, lol, and come up with an excuse. I think he added the 18+ thing to the site just to add to the locked account list he can clean out, as hexs actions dictate he is under 18 himself lol.

Board or not I want my sons and mine accounts accessible. Locking people out of accounts and not issuing them their funds with lies and stories as reasoning is unprofessional and just plain rude. Unlock my accounts what you have done is theft.


Also Hex,
 Why did you delist the HMTL5Coin markets when it was more active then most of your other markets?

I don't think they are able to, the new servers got bought after the spam account lock fest, and the volume on the site or the shares has not budged, and none of them have a job... sorry hex... I am keeping an eye on you guys, this will only get prettier, not like I didn't know you from before mang... what think I just met ya on scamtopia for the first time lol?

The issue in question now is of them locking users accounts and taking their money. To this day they have refused to unlock them and let them get their money.

Regardless of the other stuff in this thread this is still outstanding and illegal for them to do regardless of what or why they say they did it.

They haven't even bothered denying that they have done this and have made quite a few jabs at the person it happened to about doing it.

They need to return the funds they have stolen before any opinions can even begin to be corrected.

I happen to think your idea may have some merit. I believe a 'Board' would take that load off of Hex and sa_ddam's shoulders and leave them more time to accomplish what is needed technologically at Cryptopia. Maybe something along the lines of some select shareholders being tasked to deal with the riffraff. Just some thoughts on the matter.

It is a moot point of view though. No harm, no foul.

What FallingKnife said.
"This thread is a mess. It's original purpose was resolved long ago and Cryptopia was clearly not to blame."

Entertaining that read was

So this is the general purpose complaint thread now? 

Yes hex has acted in immature flippant manners, but in all cases I've witnessed he was tossing the trash out of his establishment.  Cleaning house and Scamming are different acts.

I would be more at ease if Hex & Company would grant a few rights to a larger board of trustees to handle disputes and collateral materials.