Topic: We are all Hodlonaut - page 3. (Read 2563 times)

It's only the first time CSW has spoken, and it is already unraveling pretty quickly here.

Lol. Lawyers being scapegoated for his lies exactly as was predicted.

So he doesn't remember when it was, but knows it was just after he came out of hospital? So he has no records of that hospital admission? He has no idea when that hospital admission was, despite 20 minutes later saying that some emails couldn't possibly have been written by him because he was in hospital at the time? Lol.

Hahahaha what? Note that question wasn't from one of Hodlonaut's lawyers - it was from the judge. Seems like she is also seeing through CSW's bullshit.

that alone should be the nail in the coffin

"friends" paid to visit him and made to sign an NDA with further payment to stay on script or penalty for going offscript.. is not friendship


CSW doesnt know how bitcoin or cryptography work.

CSW trying to use bribed/blackmailed people as "proof"
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dig your hole deeper CSW, the drama funeral will be excellent

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert working overtime today, with pages and pages of tweets already. I'll summarize so far briefly below for those who don't want to read them all themselves.

Started with Hodlonaut himself being questioned. He pointed out the absurdity of CSW's private "signing" session, as well as the broad consensus throughout pretty much the entire crypto ecosystem that CSW is not Satoshi, specifically mentioning both Vitalik Buterin (Ethereum) and Charlie Lee (Litecoin). Mentions how BSV is scamming people by calling themselves "Bitcoin", much like BCH did/does via bitcoin.com. He thanks the bitcoin community for the overwhelming support he has received. There then follows a lot of discussion regarding individual tweets, and more discussion about Gavin Andresen.

It then moves to CSW being questioned. He states that he was incredibly hurt by the tweets, and for an unclear reason talks about Hitler and Nazis. CSW then seems to rant about scaling, Lightning, and Monero's fluffypony, again for unclear reasons. Then follows some weird claims, such as he wrote the whitepaper using voice recognition, that he had to dumb it down after receiving feedback from others, and that bitcoin became too expensive to mine. Everything gets a bit messy there, likely due to CSW's ranting as opposed to bitnorbert's transcription. It seems the voice recognition statement might be to try to explain why he previously used the term "Bit Coin", when Satoshi never used that term. He also goes on to deny all knowledge of a lot of things, such as the back dated blog posts and altered emails which he has previously tried to lie with, statements he made attacking Hodlonaut, and statements Satoshi made which directly contradict things CSW has said.

Will be interesting to see what the judge makes of all CSW's evading of questions and just saying "I don't remember" to various things.

Just so you know, the real satoshi had a much firmer command of the English language.  Your impersonation is rather poor.  Wholly unconvincing.  I doubt you are going to provide any attempts at a signed message, but even if you did, I would presume it fake and immediately look to debunk it. 

Go find another forum to troll, plz.

We're waiting...

Here's an actual footage from the trial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG4LWWnT48M

But that is contradictory because they presented CSW's credentials


I was a bit lost today, was following throughout the day but a lot of stuff went over my
head, stuff I'm not clued into link the Lynam people.

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Yes, ATM I cant watch the footage but I plan to do so towards the weekend

Finished for today. Nothing of any surprise from CSW's team. Talking about CSW's lack of basic understanding of bitcoin and cryptography in general above, here is another hilarious exchange: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569671044662689794#m

As everyone knows, signature files are completely unnecessary as long as you double check the URL you are downloading from. There is absolutely no possible way that anything could possibly go wrong or be tampered with. That's what we tell every newbie, right? "Who cares about PGP, cryptography, or even the very fundamentals of good security. Just double check the URL and then do whatever you like."

obviously all these witnesses are just paid shills
everyone on CSW side dont actually believe his narrative, they are just financially motivated to play along or suffer losses/threat of losses if they dont
(as noted by that kurt twitter guy that reported on cases.. being told by CSW lawyers during the miami case to watch what he says(admitted in his video yesterday at about 30 minute are of video)

im starting to think gavin signed a contract. when deciding to retire from bitcoin to just take a payday from some muppet offering money for a nonsense thing (not realising the after effects of how big the nonsense thing would blow up) and part of that agreement is to not de-nounce it fully or speak much of the private conversations apart from the script handed to him as part of the deal.. else be penalised with a breach of contract requiring gavin to pay CSW a larger amount..


and perjury is not a crime in civil which is why craigs team can say all they like. the worse that can happen for being caught in a lie is that the judges rules in favour of hodlonaut (no prison time for lying in civil court)

if caught in a lie then the result is to just lean the case in favour of the one thats not lying..
so its upto hodlonauts team to catch CSW in his lies.

the other thing about using lawyers is that the lawyers can say anything they like. because lawyers are not giving factual testimony. they are deemed as just hearsay witnesses too.. setting up the story/narrative

its why defendants never take the stand or never talk in police interrogations and instead use their lawyers to do the speaking. because the lawyers can say literally anything and its not treated as evidence. and its upto the other side to then disprove the lawyers words just to sway judges mind in favour of the honest party about which narrative sounds more realistic to win the dispute
(in civil cases)

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CSW has always wanted to do his "proof" in a court and not using real proof. because although many people think law is about truth and justice.. civil court is about dispute resolution and finding agreement to a narrative that settles a dispute. even if the end result is not the truth. its dispute resolution not truth finding

Makes sense.  Feigning illness is vastly preferable to perjuring themselves, heh.  Best to leave that to the expert who has a proven track record of somehow getting away with it each time.

All the so-called witnesses suddenly fall ill during the trial, which is also the case with uncle Lynam son who was supposed to testify. Speaking of witnesses, do we know if anyone will testify in favor of Hodlonaut?

Right. We are like bystanders observing a "special military operation" unfolding.

There is no chance of this affecting anything going on in the courtroom. We can only hope that the lawyers know what they are doing.

Our protagonists should change the course of the topic, by telling the judge that these messages are unrelated to the claims of ad hominem against CSW! Someone should get in touch with them.

Thats the thing, it can become so technical that the Judges can become boggled with
the understanding of the finer workings of Bitcoin.

I dont like how the waters are being muddied with words from hodlonauts unrelated tweets like:

Not much of interest so far this morning it seems. After Hodlonaut's opening statement yesterday, it's been CSW's turn today. From the various sources I've been reading, it's just been the usual CSW trash like trying to justify not signing a message but signing in private for select individuals. Interesting that none of these individuals are being called as witnesses. I wonder why?

His lack of basic understanding is long standing and well documented. Another fine example was when he did not know addresses contain a checksum.

todays court stuff is CSW's side to talk. and it seems the narrative being set up is this(my opinion of narrative)

(im pro hodlonaut but writing what it appears the CSW side are trying to say)
from 2017 hodlonaut has had a financial incentive to remove competition from the markets by getting things like BSV delisted
where hodlonaut or people beleived to be him under different names set up challenges and campaigns to attack BSV
CSw lawyers mention

looks like CSW team now trying to set the drama of fake biography to try to turn case into a on the record biography of "proof of satoshi" using witnesses (later this week) to say they knew he invented it (facepalm)

seems he wants to use witness testimony as "proof of satoshi"

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oh and some basic law facts
in civil cases(which this case is) perjury is not a crime. perjury is usually punishable in criminal cases not civil.. which is what i feel CSW is counting on

It's simple: the judge also doesn't understand them, so he feels safe to tell all kind of weak lies.
Isn't this all he has done on court until now.. with some notable success too?

How could CSW say such a thing is it that he doesn't understand the basic properties of the bitcoin blockchain?

"I have tried my best and hid the fact that I have been running Bitcoin since 2009," reads part of wright's transcript
Unfortunately, the accuracy of the transcript is questionable, including the place where the interview was conducted. The phrase, 'run' which means the process of mining Bitcoin using a computer is also still unclear.
Which is so weird......
is the support behind the scenes of Wright who is so sensitive to finance a truth that is still ambiguous and unclear, it can even be said to be 100% a falsehood.
although Wright will pay for their cause if they win the court but in truth the supporters are blind and sheer arrogance, because the public will not believe the inventor of the digital currency Bitcoin, Craig Steven Wright.
 And I hope the court closes the case file because there is no accurate evidence and gives strict sanctions for admitting to the inventor of the digital currency Bitcoin, Craig Steven Wright.
This case is still going on not because of Craig Steven Wright but the people behind the scenes
according to me...