Topic: Wearing Double signature (Shan85) - page 3. (Read 2110 times)

He log in today I'm sure he read Royse777 posting the address

so far there are no incoming funds to the given address

https://mempool.space/address/bc1qj8l4kgmy8hy8qa2cxyjunh5qgzc0nkzext2tvx

If he failed to send the funds within 3 days since he did not specify how many days, this means that he is making fun of us and he is not serious, even if the funds are sent the tag should remain, he should not care about the tag, he should care more on his value and conscience.

Let's forget about the past incident either that was a mistake or intentional. Let us see whether the accused user will send the fund to the mentioned wallet or not. I doubt the user will not send the fund to the mentioned wallet. Already passed a  long time since the post of the accused user but till now there is no update regarding the refund.

I just checked and, at least so far, Shan85 has not sent the money he says he is going to return to the address Royse777 posted. I doubt he will.

Also, saying it was a mistake sounds to me like the excuse of a little kid who makes up bullshit when he gets caught. There is no mistake, it was intentional.

I think he want to get merit because if you read most of the posts in that thread, there are a lot merit flowing. But it's good Indonesian users aren't giving him any single merit, if he get few merit, don't surprised if he will continue to post in Indonesian board.

Man, don't say this.

It will make him not want to refund his money because there's no benefit for him after he successfully refund his money.

Nowadays local board are used to exchange merit, but if the local board user try to post in global board and can't get many merit as he got in his local board, it's show local board user only meriting his friend, not because of the quality.

Talking about ban certain number of IP addresses, I don't think the forum will do it.

Apologizing also won't change anything for what happened because what you did is really very heinous to look at. And what makes me wonder here besides the case you have made is why did you post it in the Indonesian locale besides the Pakistani locale? Do you also want to trick people in Indonesia like you tricked the two famous managers in this forum?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61953809 (Indonesia Local)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62258450 (Pakistan local)

The tags in your profile made me read all about this thread. how shocked I was when I saw that your cunning had made everyone in this forum very angry with you. The crime that you are so brave, I wonder why you are so desperate to do such a stupid thing?

Don't you love yourself for building an account for a long time to a full member? whereas if you don't cheat you can earn even more with signature campaigns. Money from fraud will not be a blessing.

What you have to do now, you have to return the money you got from the two signatures so that your life will be calmer. Unlawful money is a sin to eat.

I wonder if you will really do it knowing that there's a possibility that you might still have some alt accounts here.
I also think, what if he really refunds the BTC that he got from 2 campaigns illegally, will the negative trust be removed, or at least turn to a neutral one?

You don't know? What a pathetic reason coming from you. You are in the forum for around 1 1/2 years already, and you don't know? Just say that you cheated because you really did. I will wait for you to pay back Hhampuz, and Royse with the money you stole from them.

I'm thinking of this for hours already, and I don't know if they will consider this one, but I guess I'll just share it.

You already said that Duelbits has 112 participants, and Hhampuz is managing more than 1 campaign aside from Duelbits. At the same time, Royse is managing many campaigns as well. I'm thinking if they will hire somebody here to help them in counting posts, and to monitor each participant, so that things like what @Shan85 did will not happen in the future. I don't know, but it's just my suggestion for both of them.

TBH, it's my first time to see a user here switching signatures between 2 campaigns, and not being caught for more than a week. Will there be somebody who can do it again in the future? I guess so especially if they are really in need of money.

Good to know.
Here is the address to refund 0.00422361 BTC

Forum doesn't have such feature so its the sole responsibility of the campaign participants and managers to keep their words. Lot of members are running for a spot in a signature campaign but someone like mentioned in OP abused the given opportunity now everything gone and gone forever.


If it happened mistakenly for a week then you can logically explain and refund one bounty reward from former campaign but it looks like you intentionally did since it was happening for 3 weeks as far as I read the replies of others here so you were changing the signature back and forth at the payment date to ensure you get paid from both campaigns so its unacceptable and you will be not trusted anymore in this forum.

He knows his reputation is already ruined, and there is no way those negative feedbacks will be revised, and even if his reputation does improve, neither of these managers will let him participate in any of their campaigns again, so his chances of getting into a signature campaign again are almost nil.


Is his faith against his word now, return the money and seek Allah's forgiveness

After such a huge number of alternative accounts, I think it is not appropriate to talk about moral qualities at all. Hiding behind poverty and religion, he spreads his accounts in arithmetic progression. I'm sure he still has a bunch of live, untouched negative trust profiles. You can check that some of them are waking up today; I think the owner is checking the ones with which he can continue his "path". Looking at how the accounts in the Pakistani section exchange merit regularly, it is not surprising that even a new account with this scammer will grow very quickly.
It is a pity that there is no ban on a certain number of IP addresses on the forum. This would greatly complicate the lives of scammers.

Just do it don't just say you are ready because you don't deserve that money, the nerve that you're still holding that money that comes from cheating if you are not caught you will continue to do this and you will not stop, I read your long alibi, and it doesn't go well with the community because it's hard to support who intentionally cheat.
You have to repent, return all the money, and change your way.

I am sure that he will never refund the amount to the managers whom he tried to scam by changing the signatures and getting double payments in the signature campaigns.

For a person to refund the money, he needs to be morally very sound but a scammer and a thief have no moral values and therefore there is no chance he will refund anything. Good thing is that he is caught and his dirty act has come to the conclusion.

whether you really don't know or are you looking to profit on purpose. but what is clear, you are violating the clearly written campaign rules. I hope you don't beat yourself up for skipping reading the campaign rules.

In order to refund your payment, you must communicate with the manager. it gives responsible morals. but it won't clear your error. maybe the negative tag will still be in your account.

I will support the flag.

Consider Duelbits that has about 112 participants, it will be very tedious to check if the 122 participants are wearing signature, then check for the post quality, then count the number of posts, update spreadsheet. This is a whole lot of work for a CM that is managing upto 5 different campaigns.

Why I don't blame the managers is because, no normal human being will ever think of switching signature between companies and receiving payments. It's weird to reason such and that is not actually something that I can conceive throughout my stay in this forum and likewise many other genuine users.

That's your own interpretation. But as I stated earlier, it isn't necessary to refund the companies involved because Shan85 actually promoted the companies but in an inconsistent and dubious manner. There was no such time he was without a signature. Just that at one time, he is wearing BetterCallRaul signature and the other time he will wear Duelbits.  So, there was actually a promotion, although it might be inconsistent.

Oh, really!! But I am sorry I could see few transactions on the wallet of the accused user. You can see the balance on https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q5d3fa52ewajkzd532ejc8wzxleeml2ta9khc08 Hopefully think you will not say that the wallet bc1q5d3fa52ewajkzd532ejc8wzxleeml2ta9khc08 is not the wallet of Shan85. Payment proof as well as wallet address proof  round 134 , round 135, round 136

Shan85 knew about it long ago and was posted on the local board for support but failed and that's why posted it here. Payment can be refunded to the wallet where the fund came from see the wallet address of the campaign manager or may ask for the campaign manager. I don't think the campaign managers are afraid of such a small amount. They can bear more loss than this. Now the responsibility is of Shan85.

Shan85 used different addresses on both of these campaigns and I checked on duelbit campaign sheet where I Shan85's addy got zero balance right now. So, he has to cover with some other balances and I am sorry to say (but as per typical scammers' behaviors) that may happen unlikely. I mean when scammers talk, they are ready to give all the promises and then easily do forget.

I guess, there will not be any problem for these managers to post BTC addresses here to get refunds from Shan85 (as Shan85 is active here). Also, managers may follow what icopress practices:

I did not understand why you have not returned the money. If you were a legit user then you could return the fund of both campaign managers then you could say sorry hear. And also message both campaign managers. But before doing anything you should return the fund.

There is a difference between a person joining same campaign using more than one account and a person not wearing the signature and being paid.

When the advertising company wants to ads here, they ask the campaign manager to search for the best ways, and therefore he selects best high quality posting account to wear signature. If this does not happen, it means that the company paid money for nothing, and therefore the campaign manager is responsible for that + the amount is less than $300.

The matter is different if scam is using more than one account and/or spam, as the user has advertised for the company, and therefore the campaign manager will not refund the money to them.

It's exactly like this story ---> I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2)


It would be a real bonus, a campaign manager who has this bot and analyzes users' posts, merits, etc. Instead of selecting members and counting the number of posts

And you need to return that money, for that contact Royse777 and Hhampuz. Royse777 already paid out of his own pocket for your mess.

Please don't pretend you didn't know it was a foul, you did it for more than a week. It is also clearly indicated in the rules of both campaigns that any changes to signatures are not allowed.