Weekly pool and network statistics - page 29.

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Quote from: SgtSpike on May 01, 2012, 11:32:54 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on May 01, 2012, 11:30:19 AM

If you ignore the losses due to strategic mining, this could be done as a percentage of network reward for the time period:

Pool blocks solved / Network blocks solved

Sort of a luck measurement. Good idea, Sgt Spike

Now, I don't suppose you'd mind ~~parting with~~ donating 10% of those BFL singles, would you?

I'll part with any of them if the price is right. Wink

Should have been more specific. Sorry. Grin

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Quote from: organofcorti on May 01, 2012, 11:30:19 AM

If you ignore the losses due to strategic mining, this could be done as a percentage of network reward for the time period:

Pool blocks solved / Network blocks solved

Sort of a luck measurement. Good idea, Sgt Spike

Now, I don't suppose you'd mind parting with 10% of those BFL singles, would you?

I'll part with any of them if the price is right. Wink

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If you ignore the losses due to strategic mining, this could be done as a percentage of network reward for the time period:

Pool blocks solved / Network blocks solved

Sort of a luck measurement. Good idea, Sgt Spike

Now, I don't suppose you'd mind parting with 10% of those BFL singles, would you?

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It'd be interesting to somehow compare the average hashrate to the pool payouts. See if there are any pools that are consistently paying out less than the others with regards to a payout/hashrate ratio.

I suppose it would require a miner to be pointed at each pool, and assume all else being equal.

Maybe I'll do it when I get my 10 BFL's in.

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Weekly average pool hashrates, 2nd May 2012:

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          Pool    Time.in.days    Av.Hashrate.Ghps   %.of.network.hashrate
1      Deepbit          7.0             3516                 31.34
2        Slush          7.0             1227                 10.94
3       Ozcoin          6.7              661                  5.89
4      Eligius          6.7              454                  4.05
5      Eclipse          6.6              432                  3.85
6       P2pool          7.0              333                  2.97
7        Bitlc          6.5              171                  1.52
8    Bitminter          6.7              149                  1.33
9       Maxbtc          5.2              149                  1.33
10 Bitclockers          6.8              111                  0.99
11       Itzod          6.1               28                  0.25

Weekly average % of network hashrate to date:

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               Apr.17.2012 Apr.24.2012 May.02.2012
Bitclockers        1.01        1.05        0.99
Bitlc              1.53        1.46        1.53
Bitminter            NA        1.18        1.33
Deepbit           33.66       32.29       31.34
Eclipse              NA        3.83        3.85
Eligius            4.01        3.94        4.05
Itzod                NA        0.37        0.25
Maxbtc             1.33        1.37        1.33
Ozcoin             6.06        6.35        5.89
P2pool               NA          NA        2.97
Slush             11.62       11.51       10.94

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No problem.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 24, 2012, 06:08:33 AM

I could do that but it would be cumbersome however many people make the their p2pool nodes public.

Here is forrestv (p2pool developers) node:
http://forre.st:9332/static/

It might be easier to just grab the data when you need it.

Wasn't aware of that, I'd only seen the graphs on p2pool.info. Graphs on http://forre.st:9332/static/graphs.html are much more useful. Thanks, D&T.

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I could do that but it would be cumbersome however many people make the their p2pool nodes public.

Here is forrestv (p2pool developers) node:
http://forre.st:9332/static/

It might be easier to just grab the data when you need it.

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Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately I don't have any computers I can run 24/7 (which is one of the reasons I had to quit mining). But if you (or any p2pool miner) would like to repost that same 7 day chart on the day before I post new weekly hashrates, I'll be able to include it in the data manually.

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 24, 2012, 04:28:11 AM

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 24, 2012, 04:09:41 AM

p2pool uses dynamic shares so that isn't going to be useful. If you run a p2pool node (you don't need to use it for mining) the node will track avg hashrate of the pool for you.

I knew about the dynamic shares used and I was wondering how a pool hashrate could be calculated - I'm so used to calculating the average hashrate from timestamps and round shares that I didn't even think of tracking the actual hashes submitted Embarrassed

So does running a p2pool node give actual data as well as graphs in order to get a seven day average? And would it need to be on constantly?

Yes the raw data is available both as raw shares, in the log and in summarized format (what is used for the graph).

p2pool would need to be constantly running because while nodes record everything only shares in the main chain in last 24 hours are required for reward calculation. When a node comes online it will only request information that is required (shares in main chain in last 24 hours) so it can compute the reward split.

Each p2pool share contains within it the target difficulty so the sum of the hash difficulties gives you the # of hashes they represent.
global avg hash rate = (sum of p2pool hash difficulties in the period) / ( (2^32) * (time period in seconds) )

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 24, 2012, 04:09:41 AM

p2pool uses dynamic shares so that isn't going to be useful. If you run a p2pool node (you don't need to use it for mining) the node will track avg hashrate of the pool for you.

I knew about the dynamic shares used and I was wondering how a pool hashrate could be calculated - I'm so used to calculating the average hashrate from timestamps and round shares that I didn't even think of tracking the actual hashes submitted Embarrassed

~~So does running a p2pool node give actual data as well as graphs in order to get a seven day average?~~ (duh, just looked more closely at the graph). And would it need to be on constantly?

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 24, 2012, 04:03:35 AM

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 24, 2012, 03:56:58 AM

If you are expanding to include the top 10 then p2pool should definitely be included.

Not the top 10, just pools with a stats API or scrapeable stats page. I'd like to include p2pool, but the only p2pool stats page I could find isn't scrapeable. If you know of a way to get the block timestamps and total round shares for the previous seven days I'll include it next week.

p2pool uses dynamic shares so that isn't going to be useful. If you run a p2pool node (you don't need to use it for mining) the node will track avg hashrate of the pool for you.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 24, 2012, 03:56:58 AM

If you are expanding to include the top 10 then p2pool should definitely be included.

Not the top 10, just pools with a stats API or scrapeable stats page. I'd like to include p2pool, but the only p2pool stats page I could find isn't scrapeable. If you know of a way to get the block timestamps and total round shares for the previous seven days I'll include it next week.

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If you are expanding to include the top 10 then p2pool should definitely be included.

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Weekly average pool hashrates, 24th April 2012:

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          Pool Time.in.days Av.Hashrate.Ghps  %.of.network.hashrate
1      Deepbit     4.945023        3645.9322             32.2941968
2        Slush     6.907824        1299.3916             11.5094864
3       Ozcoin     6.836157         717.0982              6.3517662
4      Eligius     6.770880         444.3438              3.9358185
5      Eclipse     6.554144         431.9495              3.8260348
6        Bitlc     6.670266         164.3509              1.4557539
7       Maxbtc     6.448252         155.0103              1.3730189
8    Bitminter     4.465278         133.2393              1.1801797
9  Bitclockers     6.319444         118.6212              1.0506991
10       Itzod     6.886042          42.0315              0.3722981

Weekly average % of network hashrate to date:

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             Apr.17.2012 Apr.24.2012
Bitclockers    1.013242   1.0506991
Bitlc          1.528201   1.4557539
Bitminter            NA   1.1801797
Deepbit       33.657375  32.2941968
Eclipse              NA   3.8260348
Eligius        4.013750   3.9358185
Itzod                NA   0.3722981
Maxbtc         1.334861   1.3730189
Ozcoin         6.058331   6.3517662
Slush         11.621574  11.5094864

organofcorti

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Percentage of network hashrate now added to the OP (thanks for the idea, D&T). I'll keep a chronological table of the percentages in the OP.

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EMC is in the works, should be there next week.

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You totally need to have EMC on there.

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I'm writing a script to pull down the nethash data once a week from blockexplorer.com/q/nethash. I can get the total hashes and total time, which should give me an average hashrate for the week. I think.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on April 17, 2012, 08:52:22 AM

Would be nice to get the % of total hashrate (either instead of or along side nominal hashrate).
The % is more important to be (especially for the largest pools).
Blockchain.info has nice pie charts but I would love to see something showing the % over time.

Blockchain.info is cool, but please don't use their data on block's origin, it may be way off.
This site provides correct percentage for many of the listed pools: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php
(Some pools don't publish their block hashes, so their info is sometimes wrong too)

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