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Topic: What do you think about immortality? - page 5. (Read 12111 times)

newbie
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August 15, 2018, 11:03:40 AM
Immortality is already happening. I wish people knew they didn’t know what is going on in this world. There’s so much hidden technology it’s insane. This ICO appears like it might be trying to bring this tech to the light and to the public and to our children.
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
I think it's restricted for people to do this kind of research looking for eternal life. We should be what we are,and if it ever happens that some people have ability to live forever there will be a dissatisfaction among others.

I do not think there is any restriction in research.
jr. member
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xCrypt
August 10, 2018, 11:25:18 AM
I think it's restricted for people to do this kind of research looking for eternal life. We should be what we are,and if it ever happens that some people have ability to live forever there will be a dissatisfaction among others.
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 11:16:15 AM
Objectively, we may reach immortality at some point. It might be attained by keeping the body forever healthy and avoiding death factors, or brain data uploading as suggested by some members. However I think it is not good from a psychological point of view. Can an endless life truly be called "life"? If being alive is defined as "not being dead", can life exist in the abscence of the concept of death? And somebody immortal would be mentally unstable, creating a "void" in his person, leading him to have no goals, and wishing his very own death.
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 11:11:12 AM
human nature he will be born and will also die, that's all
jr. member
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xCrypt
August 10, 2018, 11:09:23 AM
I think only your soul is immortal and there's no way to copy your brain to virtual world. But i believe people in the future will find a way to extend human's life.
jr. member
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August 10, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I think there is nothing in this world that is eternal, everything will surely perish. However humans try to create technology to live forever, it won't work
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 10:39:54 AM
Body is mortal, its your values.
Love & thoughts which makes you immortal.
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 10:39:16 AM
Immortality sounds great, but soon one day you will be too bored and want to commit sucide, i may want to live long time and experience different stuf,, but not to live forever.
newbie
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August 10, 2018, 10:33:46 AM
Immorality is an unconventional and unlawful act of humanism. Immorality is an act that is common among people of low moral standards. The creator of the entire universe is against immoral acts.
newbie
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August 09, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
Immortality is only but a word, it's not possible in the world because everything expires
jr. member
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August 09, 2018, 12:40:39 PM
What do you think about immortality? Will people find immortality in the future?
Is it possible to transfer a digital copy of the brain to a computer environment?

Immortality comes after death. There will be no chance for people to be immortal as our nature is to die in order to give place for another living creatures.
newbie
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August 09, 2018, 12:38:22 PM
Immortality is the one that was meant only for the Gods and not humans.
jr. member
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Look ARROUND!
August 08, 2018, 09:18:14 PM
I can't say that immortal is impossible but look conventionally that immortality is simply those who fear the death.
jr. member
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August 08, 2018, 07:47:58 PM
I think mind uploading as a means to achieve immortality is the one of the more popular methods to date. It sounds more appealing as well, as compared to freezing bodies or harvesting organs –that’s just creepy to me! I think the top choices are mind uploading or space colonization. I even found an interesting discussion on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transhumanism/comments/91g7yd/should_we_focus_on_space_colonization_or_digital/

(P.S. Let me know if it’s not allowed to post forum links here. Will gladly edit/delete. Thanks!)
newbie
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August 08, 2018, 01:10:16 PM
immortality? whatever it is, even a science that is recorded and stored in an advanced technology will not be able to fight time and natural disasters. I think in this world, there is absolutely nothing eternal
newbie
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August 08, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
What do you think about immortality? Will people find immortality in the future?
Is it possible to transfer a digital copy of the brain to a computer environment?

Immortality in the sense of a digital copy is not true immortality. It is more along the lines of cloning. For instance, think of an organic human as a vinyl record and the digital copy as an mp3. For the most part you can say there is no distinguishing differences yet, the mp3 does not log all the dings, scratches and every other error present in the original. Just as when you copy any file on a computer it is not the original file, but a copy.

If your goal is to continue yourself from the state you were at when you died, then yes, that will suffice. The problem is, it isn't you. You still died. So you feel nothing. Your copy is what will experience the world after you die. Just as when you make a clone of say a dog, you know it is not your actual dog, but a clone of it. There is no difference from a dog and a person when you are copying its data. Both had an original and both have a copy.

The main problem is how we are created. Humans as they are now will never be immortal. But, if you follow the beliefs of tranhumanism, eventually humanity and technology will meld together until there is a point where there is no distinguishing difference between the two. Those of us born before that time will be doomed to die. After that phase though, humans will be created in a digital environment, so technically they would live forever as they do not have to deal with organic flaws. They would also not be classified as Homo Sapiens, or from the viewpoint of some, not human at all.

Also, I've always thought that if reincarnation is real then there is no reason to find immortality. You technically already are. You just don't stay in the same state forever. Which sounds more fun than watching the world pass by as the same person or thing.
I guess one of the first questions would be what your definitely of immortality. On Wikipedia, I found this, "Physical immortality is a state of life that allows a person to avoid death and maintain conscious thought." If you could actually upload your mind and have it function in some sort of computer, maybe the trick is just the transition. If you upload it and your copy starts "living" and thinking it's own thoughts separate to you, then you would die and the copy would live on. It would be distinctly different. If you died, then somebody turn on the save copy of you, you'd be dead and the train of conscious thoughts would be interrupted. Your copy would just go back to the time when it was uploaded. If you you could get it just right, so that your brain is uploaded while you were dying, you could get the effect of a continued train of thought. The body would die, but the mind would just move into the computer and keep working.
newbie
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August 08, 2018, 09:12:03 AM
In reality, immortality doesn't exists. We, humans, have what we called life span; and today's span of life is getting lower. Also, artificial intelligence cannot be as great as human brains because our brains are special made by God. There is no such man-made thing could be better than human brain.
newbie
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August 08, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
I do not think that immortality even exists and it is something insane.
newbie
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August 08, 2018, 02:30:16 AM
Pada konser perdananya ini, JCP mengusung tema Lingkaran Keabadian. Tema tersebut diangkat untuk menanggapi kondisi dunia yang semakin tidak menentu. JCP berusaha untuk tetap menjaga keseimbangan yang ada di masyarakat dengan menyediakan ruang refleksi melalui musik.

“Kalau tahun lalu mengacu ke arah geografis, sekarang lebih ke tema sebetulnya. Seperti musik itu berbicara tentang apa, sehingga musik yang dipilih masih tetap berhubungan dengan tema tersebut,” ujar Budi Utomo Prabowo selaku Konduktor Utama dari Jakarta City Philharmonic.

Dalam konser ini, JCP akan membawakan karya komposer Indonesia Jenny Rompas yang berjudul 0, Variations and Fugue for Orchestra on a Theme by Mozart Op. 132 oleh Max Reger, Simfoni No.5 dalam E minor Op. 64 milik Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, dan satu karya tambahan dari Johann Sebastian Bach berjudul Suita Orkestra No. 3 dalam D Mayor BWV 1068. Karya Bach tersebut dimainkan dalam rangka mengenang Suka Hardjana, seorang pengamat musik yang meninggal awal April lalu.

Konser merupakan kali ketiga diadakan. Dua tahun sebelumnya, konser JCP diadakan di Gedung Kesenian Jakarta dan mendapat respon yang baik dari masyarakat. Dikarenakan membludaknya penonton yang menonton pada tahun berikutnya, akhirnya lokasi pertunjukan pun dipindahkan di Gedung Teater Jakarta karena dapat menampung lebih banyak penonton.

“Kami mendapat respon yang sangat baik dari masyarakat. Dari awalnya hanya 250 penonton, sekarang mencapai 1.200 penonton bahkan lebih,” ujar Aksan Sjuman Komisaris Jakarta City Philharmonic. Pertunjukan ini akan rutin diselenggarakan setiap bulannya selama 2018 dengan delapan kali pertunjukan.
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