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legendary
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.

You realize that he got the peace prize before he was even inaugurated? The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, that much more so because he got it before he even did anything. Basically, it's the "Charismatic Liberal Award." That's not to say that some recipients haven't deserved it.

Well it was because he was black and yes I say that with honesty lol.
His policies however were far from worthy of any peace prize pretty much just the accumulation of all those slavery years being put into one award for someone not worthy of that title.

It would be like giving Putin's successor a prize just because they weren't Bush Tongue
Although it could have well been Hillary Clinton to win that prize lols.

The Nobel Prize Committee seems to favor socialist leaning candidates, which I tend to think is why Obama was given the award.
legendary
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.

You realize that he got the peace prize before he was even inaugurated? The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, that much more so because he got it before he even did anything. Basically, it's the "Charismatic Liberal Award." That's not to say that some recipients haven't deserved it.

Well it was because he was black and yes I say that with honesty lol.
His policies however were far from worthy of any peace prize pretty much just the accumulation of all those slavery years being put into one award for someone not worthy of that title.

It would be like giving Putin's successor a prize just because they weren't Bush (or Putin) Tongue
Although it could have well been Hillary Clinton to win that prize lols.
legendary
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.

You realize that he got the peace prize before he was even inaugurated? The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, that much more so because he got it before he even did anything. Basically, it's the "Charismatic Liberal Award." That's not to say that some recipients haven't deserved it.
legendary
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Fixing the US Economy
Winning the war in Iraq

But the fact is that he started a new one with Libya ...
A lot of people would say for Obama. A wolf in sheep's clothing

In what world did he fix the US economy? You do realize that recovering from recessions is natural and requires no government action? He managed to slow down the recovery quite a bit.
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.
The number of wars that you start is not necessarily an indication of how peaceful you make the world. The US avoided getting involved in the early days of WW2 and as a result Hitler was able to invade most of europe with pretty much zero resistance. Prior to invading Germany was under a treaty not to even bring troops near the border of Germany, and when he sent troops near the boarder Germany should have been invaded.
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Flashback: Obama Dismisses Islamic State As A “Jayvee Team”…


Via New Yorker (Jan. 2014):

…At the core of Obama’s thinking is that American military involvement cannot be the primary instrument to achieve the new equilibrium that the region so desperately needs. And yet thoughts of a pacific equilibrium are far from anyone’s mind in the real, existing Middle East. In the 2012 campaign, Obama spoke not only of killing Osama bin Laden; he also said that Al Qaeda had been “decimated.” I pointed out that the flag of Al Qaeda is now flying in Falluja, in Iraq, and among various rebel factions in Syria; Al Qaeda has asserted a presence in parts of Africa, too.

“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant,” Obama said, resorting to an uncharacteristically flip analogy. “I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/01/27/going-the-distance-2?currentPage=all

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Man! Obama is so funny! Nobel Piss Winner funny!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayvee

sr. member
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.

Oh boy, you guys from overseas really got some high standards going Wink

If that was a criteria 180-200 countries would get a nobelprice everyyear.
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Obama’s monsters ball: How the White House opened its doors to some of Africa’s most evil dictators and homophobes and turned blind eye to their human rights record
Leaders were invited to the White House for the first ever US Africa summit
Included were dictators and despots with shocking human rights records
Obama's speech barely acknowledged the oppression rife across Africa





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718143/Obamas-monsters-ball-How-White-House-opened-doors-Africas-evil-dictators-homophobes-turned-blind-eye-human-rights-record.html


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Nobel Piss Drone Winner In Action...

legendary
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.

I have to disagree.  If Yassir Arafat can have a Peace Prize, an American president who went 8 whole years without invading a country surely deserves one too?  If Romney or McCain had won, the US would have invaded Iran and Syria by now.  Its a low bar but Obama is more peaceable than the alternatives.
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To be fair, Obama should definitely give back the Nobel Peace Prize.

The only Nation's leader that can accept that prize with complete honesty is Nelson Mandela.
legendary
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That is all  Cheesy

Wow, I'm embarrassed for you. Obama got Bin Laden...that's all he needs to be in every American's good graces. That literally "is all". How soon you forget...the rest of us will never forget.

Ugh - I left that off my list and its huge. Good point.
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You only speak for yourself. I'm doing much better now than I was during the Bush years and the stock market is doing much better too.

Fixing the US Economy
Winning the war in Iraq

The US economy is worse off now, than it was during the years of GW Bush.

And regarding the war in Iraq, read this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/iraqs-second-largest-city-mosul-captured-by-islamic-state-of-iraq-and-syria-647312
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That is all  Cheesy

Wow, I'm embarrassed for you. Obama got Bin Laden...that's all he needs to be in every American's good graces. That literally "is all". How soon you forget...the rest of us will never forget.
legendary
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If someone can tell me what good and meaningful successes has President Obama had since being elected ... what Democrats can call as one success ?

I’m not judging Obama only want to summarize ...

Obamacare.  Its a mess but its better than the mess he inherited.

Dodd-Frank.  Didn't go far enough but again, better than the mess he inherited.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - part of Dodd-Frank.  Small step towards insisting banks are less dishonest in dealing with people who can't afford to sue them.

The 2009 Stimulus bill. 

No troops in Iraq.

Withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

Any one of these is more than Bush or Clinton achieved in their 8 year periods.

Don't forget: obama uses more drones than Clinton and Bush combined. That is a way better than water boarding living humans... Wink




Indeed.  Bush lost more Americans "fighting terrorism" in Iraq than were killed by terrorists attacks in the US.  Drones are way better.
legendary
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If someone can tell me what good and meaningful successes has President Obama had since being elected ... what Democrats can call as one success ?

I’m not judging Obama only want to summarize ...

Obamacare.  Its a mess but its better than the mess he inherited.

Dodd-Frank.  Didn't go far enough but again, better than the mess he inherited.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - part of Dodd-Frank.  Small step towards insisting banks are less dishonest in dealing with people who can't afford to sue them.

The 2009 Stimulus bill. 

No troops in Iraq.

Withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

Any one of these is more than Bush or Clinton achieved in their 8 year periods.

Don't forget: obama uses more drones than Clinton and Bush combined. That is a way better than water boarding living humans... Wink


legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
If someone can tell me what good and meaningful successes has President Obama had since being elected ... what Democrats can call as one success ?

I’m not judging Obama only want to summarize ...

Obamacare.  Its a mess but its better than the mess he inherited.

Dodd-Frank.  Didn't go far enough but again, better than the mess he inherited.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - part of Dodd-Frank.  Small step towards insisting banks are less dishonest in dealing with people who can't afford to sue them.

The 2009 Stimulus bill. 

No troops in Iraq.

Withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

Any one of these is more than Bush or Clinton achieved in their 8 year periods.
legendary
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Poll Finds Obama And Bush’s Approval Ratings Nearly Identical…


My last column, which argued President Barack Obama’s situation going into his second midterm closely resembled President George W. Bush’s standing going into his second midterm, is reinforced in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

When I filed the column on Monday, I used the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll results from June, since it was the most recent poll available at that time. It showed Obama’s job ratings at 41 percent approve/53 percent disapprove. The new survey, conducted July 30-August 3, showed Obama’s approval at 40 percent, with 54 percent disapproving of his performance.

Since Bush’s late July 2006 job ratings stood at 39 percent approve/56 percent disapprove, the new Obama numbers bear an even more uncomfortably close resemblance to Bush’s.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/new-poll-numbers-reinforce-bush-obama-comparisons/


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The violence in Libya that caused U.S. embassy personnel to flee the country on Saturday is partly due to President Obama’s inability to bring calm to the region, key Republican members of Congress said on Saturday.

According to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the “deteriorating security posture” that is playing out across the region “is what happens when the United States is not engaged and lacks a clear foreign policy that includes strong U.S. leadership.”…

The country has been locked in violence and instability since Gaddafi, the former dictator, was ousted with American aid in 2011. Militia groups have had easy access to weapons, officials say, and some of the armed groups have focused their threats on Americans.
http://thehill.com/policy/international/213428-gop-blames-obama-for-libya-violence



Taliban fighters are scoring early gains in several strategic areas near the capital this summer, inflicting heavy casualties and casting new doubt on the ability of Afghan forces to contain the insurgency as the United States moves to complete its withdrawal of combat troops, according to Afghan officials and local elders.

The Taliban have found success beyond their traditional strongholds in the rural south and are now dominating territory near crucial highways and cities that surround Kabul, the capital, in strategic provinces like Kapisa and Nangarhar.

Their advance has gone unreported because most American forces have left the field and officials in Kabul have largely refused to talk about it. The Afghan ministries have not released casualty statistics since an alarming rise in army and police deaths last year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/world/asia/taliban-making-military-gains-in-afghanistan.html



Four-star Gen. James Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, used a speaking engagement at the Brookings Institute on Tuesday to deliver a stinging rebuke of the Obama administration’s handling of Iraq.

“I have a hard time believing that had we been there, and worked with the government, and worked with parliament, and worked with the minister of defense, the minister of interior, I don’t think we’d be in the same shape we’re in today,” Gen. Amos said, the Fiscal Times reported Wednesday…

“We may think we’re done with all of these nasty, thorny, tacky little things that are going on around the world — and I’d argue that if you’re in that nation, it’s not a tacky, little thing for you. We may think we’re done with them, but they’re not done with us,” the commandant of the Marine Corps added, the paper reported. “We’re probably the only country in the world that has the resources and the capability to be able to do some of this that others can’t.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/gen-james-amos-marine-corps-commandant-slams-obama/



The draft Kerry passed to Israel on Friday shocked the cabinet ministers not only because it was the opposite of what Kerry told them less than 24 hours earlier, but mostly because it might as well have been penned by Khaled Meshal. It was everything Hamas could have hoped for.

The document recognized Hamas’ position in the Gaza Strip, promised the organization billions in donation funds and demanded no dismantling of rockets, tunnels or other heavy weaponry at Hamas’ disposal. The document placed Israel and Hamas on the same level, as if the first is not a primary U.S. ally and as if the second isn’t a terror group which overtook part of the Palestinian Authority in a military coup and fired thousands of rockets at Israel…

If Kerry did anything on Friday it was to thwart the possibility of reaching a cease-fire in Gaza. Instead of promoting a cease-fire, Kerry pushed it away. If this failed diplomatic attempt leads Israel to escalate its operation in Gaza, the American secretary of state will be one of those responsible for every additional drop of blood that is spilled.
http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.607332?v=3AB70A172CE96761671E1E0AC73F54CC



A real U.S. president would give Kiev the weapons it needs, impose devastating sectoral sanctions on Moscow, reinstate our Central European missile-defense system, and make a Reaganesque speech explaining why.

Obama has done none of these things. Why should he? He’s on the right side of history.

Of course, in the long run nothing lasts. But history is lived in the here and now. The Soviets had only 70 years, Hitler a mere twelve. Yet it was enough to murder millions and rain ruin on entire continents. Bashar Assad, too, will one day go. But not before having killed at least 100,000 people…

The world is aflame and our leader is on the 14th green. The arc of history may indeed bend toward justice, Mr. President. But, as you say, the arc is long. The job of a leader is to shorten it, to intervene on behalf of “the fierce urgency of now.” Otherwise, why do we need a president? And why did you seek to become ours?
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/383694/print



Luckily for America’s self-esteem, it was liberal Democrats that produced this particular shambles [in Libya]. If Republicans had done this, the media would be on the administration non-stop, perhaps comparing Samantha Power to Paul Wolfowitz—a well-meaning humanitarian way over her head who wrecked a country out of misguided ideology. There might also be some pointed questions for future presidential candidates who supported this fiasco. But since both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have their fingerprints all over Libya, there isn’t a lot of press hunger for a detailed, unsparing autopsy into this stinking corpse of policy flub.

If Obama were a Republican, the press and the weekly news shows would be ringing with hyperbolic, apocalyptic denunciations of the clueless incumbent who had failed to learn the most basic lessons of Iraq. Indeed, the MSM right now would be howling that Obama was stupider than Bush. Bush, our Journolist friends would now be saying ad nauseam, at least had the excuse that he didn’t know what happens when you overthrow a paranoid, genocidal, economically incompetent Arab tyrant in an artificial post-colonial state. But Obama did—or, the press would nastily say, he would have done if he’d been doing his job instead of hitting the golf course or yakking it up with his glitzy pals at late night bull sessions. The ad hominem attacks would never stop, and all the tangled threads of incompetence and failure would be endlessly and expertly picked at in long New Yorker articles, NYT thumbsuckers, and chin-strokings on all the Sabbath gasbag shows…

But luckily for Team Obama, the mainstream press would rather die than subject liberal Democrats to the critiques it reserves for the GOP. So instead, as Libya writhes in agony, reputations and careers move on. The news is so bad, and the President’s foreign policy is collapsing on so many fronts, that it is impossible to keep the story off the front pages. “Smart diplomacy” has become a punch line, and the dream Team Obama had of making Democrats the go-to national security party is as dead as the passenger pigeon. But what the press can do for the White House it still, with some honorable exceptions, labors to accomplish: it will, when it must, report the dots. But it will try not to connect them, and it will do what it can to let all the people involved in the Libya debacle move on to the next and higher stage of their careers.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2014/07/26/as-libya-implodes-smart-diplomacy-becoming-a-punch-line/

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/27/quotes-of-the-day-1803/


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legendary
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The checked-out presidency


Our friend Matt Lewis, of Daily Caller fame, has a column this weekend at The Telegraph which puts forth a rather difficult to dispute assertion; Barack Obama has already checked out of his job. In it, he points to a number of items in evidence which support this theory.


President Obama has emotionally checked out of his job a couple of years early, it seems. How can one tell?

Candidates for president who brazenly assume they are the inevitable victor are sometimes accused of “measuring the drapes” for the White House.

Obama, conversely, seems to be prematurely packing his bags in hopes for an early departure.

Just last week, for example, the Los Angeles Times reported that “The First Family is believed to be in escrow on a contemporary home in a gated community where entertainers Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope and Bing Crosby once maintained estates”.

George Santayana observed that “Americans don’t solve problems, they leave them behind”. Perhaps the president is taking this to heart.



The President’s new prospective digs are on the Left Coast, not the Windy City, so is Obama already engaged in more California dreaming than managing the affairs of the nation? Rounds of golf, fundraisers, barbecue pit stops in Texas and toying with doing Jimmy Kimmel’s show while the nation and the world erupt in multiple lesions and fractures certainly lend the appearance of it. But even with the caveat that the White House travels with the President and people are capable of focusing on more than one thing at a time, it’s not hard to see this presidency as one which already has its eyes on the off ramp.

While you’re free to think what you will about Barack Obama’s “true intentions” when he originally made the decision to seek the presidency, I still feel that he came to the job as a true believer. (Of course, as Steve Martin pointed out in the film Leap of Faith, the true believers – or the Genuine Article – are the ones you always have to watch out for.) Barack Obama honestly felt that his mere presence on the stage would bring the various factions of the nation and the world together… that everyone would, sooner or later, recognize the brilliance of his vision and the structural soundness of his solutions to the planet’s ills and things would truly change.

He was reinforced in this belief constantly, starting with the phenomenal reception to his Yes We Can speech in New Hampshire in January of 2008. We’re used to a history of glad handing, baby kissing politicians making all sorts of grandiose promises which offer impossible visions. We’re also used to knowing in the back of our minds that they generally don’t even believe the pablum they’re peddling themselves. But not so with Barack Obama. I honestly think he really believed it. He wasn’t just falling victim to his own hype… he was embodying it. It’s what led him to send Hillary to Russia with her reset button and make one concession after another to our traditional enemies. The world was about to change, and he would be the catalyst of a new era.

Since then, despite the best efforts of his handlers to keep things cheery in the bubble, reality has set in. The Republicans weren’t about to turn into liberals simply because he could explain their vision in a simpler way. Vladimir Putin wasn’t going to see the error of his ways and embrace a global vision of humanitarian milk and honey. The seas failed to recede and people stubbornly remained … people, with all the variety, warts and blemishes they’d always had. And in the face of this failure to transform on the part of the world, Barack Obama needed someone to blame. On the domestic front, the Republicans were the only available target, so Obama became sullen and insulting, abandoning any pretense at trying to work together.

The reason for this is that Obama’s vision of the future never involved compromise. It relied on everyone suddenly seeing just how right he was and how wrong they were. That didn’t happen, and not having a backup plan in the event that the rabbit failed to emerge from the hat, Barack Obama threw in the towel.



http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/26/the-checked-out-presidency/



legendary
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Well, Holder has been coming out on reforming the criminal justice system meaning that people can eventually be forgiven of past minor and non-violent drug convictions so standing strong on these cannabis legalizing states wouldn't jive w/ that. Part of it is they don't want Rand Paul to get the lion's share of the credit for leading the charge on this issue or otherwise many minorities would have little or no reason to continue to support democrats especially in 2016 if Paul is the at the GOP's top of the ticket.

Very good points and I agree that Holder's actions for reform of the criminal justice system are a positive but I believe the decision is purely politically driven as suggested by Chef Ramsay.  Remaining relevant being the basis of the decision would make the most sense in my opinion.

Agree.  The 'just electoral politics' hypothesis is a strong one.

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