Topic: What good things has Obama had since he is elected ? - page 7. (Read 11557 times)

Obama care is pretty good for senior who has not reach the retirement age.

The best thing that Obama did siince he was elected is legalization of weed

In my medical training we rely on evidence based medicine.  You can't spew out an argument without supporting data.  If I told him flat out usually people object as it being subjective.  So I tried to make it more objective showing the video and noting Clinton was much better.

What's silly is people who are so in love with Obama they thing he's a good speaker/orator.  JFK was damn good - that line "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" is notable.  Reagan had his city on a hill.  Clinton, despite all the trouble he got into, could charm the pants off most men and women.  Bush was able to win over quite a few D's in Texas with his charm.  Obama, well other than watching Game of Thrones and listening to Beyonce like 1/2 of America I can't see him as being real.  Look at he mustard he ordered on AFO in the video - all my African American friends eat plain old Frenches, not the uppity Grey Poupon.

So whoever makes those Hope & Change posters must be doing a damn good job 

Good article at CNN about Obama's poor handling of Iraq:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/27/opinion/gergen-katz-iraq/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Oh, I read his post as well as yours, and I didn't mean to single you out in that; sorry if that was the impression it left.

My point is: wouldn't it be more productive to tell him just that (how eloquent they are is irrelevant), instead of going on a meaningless tangent that does nothing to help the situation, and then further wasting your time by offering to search for the source of the "Obama says 'uh' about 31x more often as Bill Clinton"?

The sad part is you read my post without looking at what I replied to.  Does the word context mean anything to you? Please look at the quote to which I responded to.   That's the one judging people by how eloquent they are.

Did you take any meaning from my post.  Look I don't care if they have to use sign language or grunt like apes if they're capable of thinking like Stephen Hawkings.  Unfortunately, the leaders we have had as of late make great apes look more intelligent.

Is it just me, or some people spend their time on completely inconsequential things? I mean, what difference does it make if he says "uh" more often than someone else? Shouldn't people be worrying about finding out where these guys stand on issues and where their funds come from before electing them, instead of worrying about how cool they are/look/sound/whatever? Someone once compared selling candidates to selling any other product on the market, and I guess he was right; avoid the issues and just focus on presenting a pleasant face so people will buy it.

The smoothest talkers in the recent past have been Reagan (the zipper, the great communicator) and Clinton (the great unzipper, Oxford trained).  Bush, while you may love or hate him, would be able to carry a conversation with you without pausing.  He had gaffes like the "fool me once" line, but we all do stupid stuff now and then.  Obama slipped up once and said 57 states.  Am I going to fault him for that one misstep - no, he may not have slept all night worrying about some crisis unbeknownst to us.  He cannot, however, speak as smoothly as George Bush.

Watch this youtube video about AFO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqIvFOKyGY

It's not particularly political.  Bush talks more or less like an average guy.  Obama tries to smooth talk you like he's trying to pick you up at a bar.  Obama says "uh" about 31x more often as Bill Clinton (have to find this citation).

http://youtu.be/S-uPwsbSwlM

http://youtu.be/RZBRIvySrfo

http://youtu.be/4XuItt6iuMc

He has a better grasp of the English/USA language than the dipstick he replaced.

Giving us false hope is a good thing before he is elected.

He helped the tattoo industry a lot.

1) 100% raise of the public debt;
2) Anti-protest bill.

There is not enough room for what he's done since elected, so how about things from just this week:

He fought against 4th Ammendment rights and was unanimously struck down by the Supreme Court a few days ago. If he had had his way, police could search your phone without a warrant. That's what he wanted and fought for (but thankfully lost) in the hearings.

He also has made unlawful and unprecedented appointments, and again was struck down unanimously by the Supreme Court a few days ago for this too.

His administration brazenly continues to coverup the IRS targeting of political opponents.

He is very, very dangerous.

Well he did get a Nobel Peace Prize - perhaps it was in economic theory. Disparage enough people and they'll want to kill themselves and not have kids - the ultimate steward of the environment!

No, no, no! You forgot about getting a lot of people killed, thus reducing the demographic pressure on the Earth's ecology. He should get a prize from Greenpeace for that!

The single best thing he did is help bring Americans together in their hate of government (other than the ones looking for gov teets).  Now he has 2 years to get everybody to hate him equally and we'll be good to go.

I hope, this time, this time, but this time, no really, this time... he will do everything in his power to stop something he thought was not cool and stuff. Before 2008...
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The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court’s renewal of the contested program, authorized under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, comes as lawmakers continue to debate reform legislation.

“Given that legislation has not yet been enacted, and given the importance of maintaining the capabilities of the Section 215 telephony metadata program, the government has sought a 90-day reauthorization of the existing program,” the Justice Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said in a joint statement.
The NSA’s bulk collection of phone "metadata," such as which numbers people dial and how long they talk, was one of the most controversial programs revealed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden last summer. The program requires renewal by the secretive spy court every 90 days.

Some privacy advocates have urged the Obama administration not to ask for reauthorization while Congress debates a measure to effectively end the program.

The program is “not effective,” “unconstitutional” and “has been misused,” more than two-dozen groups wrote in a letter this week.

Administration officials have said that the program is necessary to track terrorists and foreign agents and have rejected calls to end or significantly reform the program without legislation from Congress.

The program’s renewal, which was officially issued on Thursday but unclassified on Friday, expires on Sept. 12.

The House last month passed the USA Freedom Act to end the phone records program, but that bill is still working its way through the Senate. Multiple reform advocates have worried that it does not go far enough.

The bill would end the NSA program and require government agents to get a court order before searching private phone companies’ storehouses of phone records, a move endorsed by President Obama earlier this year.

“Overall, the bill’s significant reforms would provide the public greater confidence in our programs and the checks and balances in the system, while ensuring our intelligence and law enforcement professionals have the authorities they need to protect the Nation,” the Justice Department and ODNI explained.

Critics on both sides of the aisle, however, have worried that compromise language in the version passed by the House could still allow NSA agents to grab vast amounts of records in one sweep, such as those of every resident in a single ZIP code or all subscribers of a particular phone company like Verizon.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/210121-nsa-program-renewed-while-congress-debates-reform

Uh while we're on the topic, can we PLEASE fucking repeal the laws that mandate drug testing for federal contractors?  The healthcare.gov development fiasco should serve as proof that even if people are passing the tests, they're still fucking things up on the billion-dollar scale.  Why the fuck do we have to drug screen for jobs but not for welfare?

Expansion of NSA & NSA powers incl. PRISM (planning may've predated Obama, but I don't recall him doing anything to stop it). Massive expansion of DoJ allowances & bureaucratic power. New, outrageous claims that Americans can be cyber-wiretapped if they communicate with foreigners. Unconstitutional expansion of "War on Terror" to include a great number more Mid. East countries including drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen. Permitting immigration policy to remain tight while wasting resources on beefing up border security which is now reaching another crisis point. Some of the tightest press control of any president in history. Federal administrations have conflicting guidance on Bitcoin he's done nothing to help alleviate. Continued and expanded war on drugs, cracking down on marijuana dispensaries while legal in the county and state they're operating in. Killing Americans oversees without due process. QE9000, massive expansion of the government deficit, has created a situation where the next administration is doomed to fail (weak economy, poor housing market, boat-loads of unrealized inflation and Fed still has near-zero rates). Wide diversity and large number of scandals where administration somehow claims ignorance, from IRS political targeting, to Fast & Furious, to the VA scandal, to Bergdahl, to Snowden (obv. not just Obama admin which was damned there), Obamacare website fiasco & Obamacare figure manipulation (all gov't resource assurances broken once voted in favor of and in operation).

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, and I don't follow the news much. I don't even think his supposedly beneficial racial legacy is actually beneficial anymore, or at least no more so than Kwame Kilpatrick. Just suspending habeas corpus doesn't make you Abraham Lincoln. On a personal note, I think he's done a great job sowing distrust for ALL government and politicians among citizens, which I'm sincerely thankful for. There's no hope for change. Everyone's going to screw you over, so better to just try equalizing everyone's power, reigning in government and revoking judicial and executive privileges which've come in over the years.

I'll admit some of his picks have done some good things... EPA head (forget her name) and Warren come to mind, but it's not all sunshine and rainbows with them, either. Some alt energy sources have been given leniency and subsidies to get us off coal, but they still haven't gone after dirty energy manufacturers for extraordinary contribution to pollution and the health, environmental, and economic detriments brought with it which could be used to fund alt energy research, development, and deployment instead of making nominal improvements to dirty sources to make them a bit more clean (not that it's unique to Obama admin, but it'd be a nice change for someone promising change). Whether or not Iraq's ended in another disaster (which is hardly Obama's fault), at least no Americans are dying in the chaos (for now).