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Bitcoin is backbone of all crypto and every token has direct relationship with price of btc. as long as BTC will remain stable we will se improvement in the price of Altcoins but for any reason if btc falls flat, the Altcoins will start dumping with high rate. There are only some coins which are undependable with btc such as gold back up coins or other assets coins which are backed up with real assets.
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it all depends on the altcoin itself, because altcoins have fundamentals,
if the fundamentals of the project are good then the price of the altcoin will rebound,
this has been proven in many altcoins with good fundamentals such as Ethereum, Conflux and Sonm.
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Some of big altcoin project like Ethereum and BNB is not so dependent to Bitcoin like they used to, so I think some of the altcoin that actually have a decent project will survive. It's not the first time bitcoin is falling, and we already seen from the experience how the bitcoin falling is actually a good filter for altcoin that actually has good fundamental and vision.
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Alts cannot survive if btc falls.
But In my opinion, Bitcoin couldn't previously go lower than $15k this bear market because the buying pressure was too strong, that it will most likely never go lower, unless something REALLY BAD happens.
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There are plenty of altcoins that continue to run in the face of Bitcoin dumping. And this happens more and more frequently.

Most alt-coin projects have zero dependency on Bitcoin to function and provide value regardless if Bitcoin exists.

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Some will survive and some dont you can look at the coingecko or coinmarketcap website the dying altcoin is everywhere especially for project who not ready yet or don't have purposes and the downturn is crazy scary it can more than 100% from their ATH and and don't comeback.
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
In fact, one's opinion can be different here, but in my case, my personal opinion will be that Bitcoin's alternative coins are altcoins, since it is used as an alternative to Bitcoin, so it is most likely that they will not exist where there is no Bitcoin. If we see that due to the bear market when the price of Bitcoin suddenly fell too low, many altcoin projects could not survive and they had to disappear from the market. So I tink altcoins cann't survive without bitcoin.
I would also like to agreeing with you and like others I will also say that if Bitcoin ever failed or crashes it will be impossible to sustain the altcoin market. Alt-coin market are fully depend on bitcoin position if you saw that whenever we talk about bearish and bull run, we never talk about altcoin,  always the analysis based with bitcoin, I will say that bitcoin is like the mother of the crypto world, and altcoins are its children, so the sustainment of altcoins without a mother will become impossible.
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
In fact, one's opinion can be different here, but in my case, my personal opinion will be that Bitcoin's alternative coins are altcoins, since it is used as an alternative to Bitcoin, so it is most likely that they will not exist where there is no Bitcoin. If we see that due to the bear market when the price of Bitcoin suddenly fell too low, many altcoin projects could not survive and they had to disappear from the market. So I tink altcoins cann't survive without bitcoin.
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

Actually Bitcoin is the first coin and btc has more than 40% dominance of the whole crypto market. whenever btc price drops , it means people are getting out of the crypto market which cause other altcoins dump. Altcoins will down more than btc because Altcoins buyers are mostly new users or big whale who are not long term holder while Most of btc holder are for long term.

Altcoins can survive without btc in one situation, when btc dominance down more than 15% then altcoins will almost free from btc and we will not see any big change in alt price with btc price change. Sometimes we seeing that some Altcoins pumped hard with btc dump like memecoins and fan coins.



I couldn't understand your English but I can tell you that alts have much more upside than BTC. BTC is obsolete and has no smart contract functionality. The best way to make money in crypto is to invest in new projects before they are listed on large exchanges and price trackers. Projects like 0xMR, SimpAI, Shardeum, Q Blockchain, zkSync...

New projects are risky and you don't know whether they will be listed in any big exchange or not. The project can fail at the initial stage so i will not recommend investing in any new project. Btc is best coin to invest in if you want secure investment while investing in big Altcoins are also right but new projects are not free from high risk
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

The way I see it, altcoins dying off without bitcoin is a reasonable assumption. This is because Bitcoin is the harbinger of the cryptocurrency era. When people talk about crypto currencies the first thing that comes to the minds of the majority is Bitcoin. Not to mention the fact that most of the whales in this industry are invested more on bitcoin rather than other coins/altcoins. But this fact also makes the thought of Bitcoin dying out quite an impossible assumption. Although if it does happen in the future, despite suffering for quite some time, I believe that another coin will replace bitcoin. Why? Because people have already had a taste of this industry and will surely long for it one way or another due to the profits and utilities that we, or the future crypto enthusiasts have already gotten accustomed to.
The crypto industry is unique and unpredictable, how can a coin without utility and clear fundamentals become the number 1 coin like bitcoin?
This is an interesting case because bitcoin is the core of altcoins and the top chain of the coin itself, many countries in the government buy this coin because it has political factors and great influence among crypto enthusiasts. Especially whales and globalists who want to change centralize into decentralize
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

The way I see it, altcoins dying off without bitcoin is a reasonable assumption. This is because Bitcoin is the harbinger of the cryptocurrency era. When people talk about crypto currencies the first thing that comes to the minds of the majority is Bitcoin. Not to mention the fact that most of the whales in this industry are invested more on bitcoin rather than other coins/altcoins. But this fact also makes the thought of Bitcoin dying out quite an impossible assumption. Although if it does happen in the future, despite suffering for quite some time, I believe that another coin will replace bitcoin. Why? Because people have already had a taste of this industry and will surely long for it one way or another due to the profits and utilities that we, or the future crypto enthusiasts have already gotten accustomed to.
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
I couldn't understand your English but I can tell you that alts have much more upside than BTC. BTC is obsolete and has no smart contract functionality. The best way to make money in crypto is to invest in new projects before they are listed on large exchanges and price trackers. Projects like 0xMR, SimpAI, Shardeum, Q Blockchain, zkSync...
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
We arent that blind on not to see if we do speak about dominance on the entire market which we do know that it isnt something that we could just simply ignore. BTC is the king of crypto coins
and if ever it do make out some bearish movement then we do see that altcoins do follow but we know that there's such thing been called as altcoins season on which this time where
alts do make out some bullish runs and increase out despite of BItcoins price movement is stagnant or really going down but most of the time it is really been
dragged off on where it would be heading.
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I would guess that as long as bitcoin survives, all the coins around it will survive, maybe they will change, one would go and another would come, but crypto as a space will be safe and nothing will happen. I have to say that there is nothing wrong with buying bitcoin if you are not entirely certain about the altcoin world, obviously it is not going to be as profitable as finding a good token and making 100x with it, that rarely happens and you would never have that.

But, the feeling of security knowing that you invested into the greatest asset humanity has ever created is enough, you do not need to risk anything more than that and just be happy about that is enough.
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

In my opinion, altcoin will not survive if Bitcoin is destroyed, because Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency, so whatever happens in cryptocurrncy depends on Bitcoin, therefore if the price of Bitcoin increase, then the price of altcoin will also increase and if the price of Bitcoin decrease, then the price of Bitcoin will also decrease, because the main pioneer of cryptocurrency is Bitcoin.
the main crypto investment center is BITCOIN friends. already trusted 100% by people who understand. if only BITCOIN crashed down dramatically, 95% of altcoins that died because they lost their large volume. but there are still altcoins that iinvestors trust with clear objectives of the coin project
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own.
Not entirely  true because if we bring in altcoins such as utiliy or stablecoins which dont rely on bitcoins performance we can see that  these can hold value as they are pegged on other assets performance like gold or fiat currencies.

I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise. 
This usually happens for coins without strong communities,  had this been the case altcoins would be moving proportional to btc movement's but this Is far from reality as other factors affect the price of an altcoin such as token burns, pumps etc

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Sometimes we see some altcoins behave this way because they are paired this way on some exchanges  and  for strong and popular alts cheaper coins means buying opportunity for investors which is why coins pump even when btc is in red.
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It's true bitcoin is the mover of all altcoin i strong believe if there is no bitcoin then there will be no altcoin as well.
But in totally there were some altcoin that act awkwardly to bitcoin price which is somehow confusing, as bitcoin soar they decrease whenever bitcoin act awkwardly they soar. But sometimes i kept wondering actually they may survived if bitcoin fails, although they may not be for 48hrs all altcoin would fail as well.
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This is due to psychological factors and investor confidence. when bitcoin goes up, altcoins will also go up, and vice versa, bitcoin becomes a parameter for the development of altcoins, it seems to be a natural formula in the crypto world. don't we often meet people when talking about cryptocurrencies, then their imagination is bitcoin. especially now that bitcoin has a market capitalization that dominates cryptocurrency
maybe in the past but what I am seeing now that we have that so called "Altcoin Season" in which sometimes happened even without the spike of bitcoin ,

 though this mostly happen after Bitcoin season yet this proves one thing that altcoin has their own supporters now and trusty.

maybe we cannot say what will truly happen in the coming years(once this happened) but what I am sure of?

bitcoin will never have this fall mate , or else we will be no longer here after that time.


Well i don't know if others have already answered this but I termed it to be the first digital currency that was launched before any other altcoin and it has the ability to control the market and every other altcoin follows its direction.
So, its hard to see that they are being detached from bitcoin price movement to go against the originator, otherwise, in some cases most altcoin go against the price which in cmc you would found out we have the gainers and losers' coin, the loser's go against bitcoin price while the gainer's act directly with bitcoin price, so in other words we can say the falling of bitcoin price is the rising of those altcoin price.
being said above and seems to be not the first crypto to be created and proposed to be used but the very first successful  .
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In my opinion, Altcoin will not survive without the presence of Bitcoin. In addition to the fact that Bitcoin is the mother coin of all cryptocurrencies, there are other factors in the market that make Bitcoin the number one influencer in the market.

The first factor is trust, without bitcoin there is no trust in the market, investors do not have confidence in altcoin yet.
The other important factor is the dominance of Bitcoin in the market, which automatically makes all altcoins linked to it.

This means that if bitcoin falls, all altcoins will fall with it.
That is totally correct. Without Bitcoin, the whole crypto market goes down, as we have been constantly seeing along the years. The market in general only enters a positive trend once bitcoin gives the start upside. Even Ethereum, the top 2 cryptocurrency can't survive without bitcoin. Always bitcoin loses demand and crashes, ETH follows BTC, also going down, sometimes losing even more value than BTC in percentage.

Some enthusiasts believe this will change someday once an altcoin rises as potential competitor to bitcoin for market's dominance, but in my opinion that is not going to happen on the next decade, at least.
If the King or Father of all crypto goes down then it would be no brainer that the entire crypto space would be shook down and would really be losing up their confidence whether it would proceed on or would totally

crumble, considering that the main coin on which the community been supporting had already go its price to the floor which means that there's something huge happening in the market and it would definitely
giving out huge significant on altcoins as well considering that the main trend setter is BTC.Although with those project owners they would definitely be trying their best on boosting up their marketing
and exposure because for sure they would really be trying out to claim that top spot.
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In my opinion, Altcoin will not survive without the presence of Bitcoin. In addition to the fact that Bitcoin is the mother coin of all cryptocurrencies, there are other factors in the market that make Bitcoin the number one influencer in the market.

The first factor is trust, without bitcoin there is no trust in the market, investors do not have confidence in altcoin yet.
The other important factor is the dominance of Bitcoin in the market, which automatically makes all altcoins linked to it.

This means that if bitcoin falls, all altcoins will fall with it.
That is totally correct. Without Bitcoin, the whole crypto market goes down, as we have been constantly seeing along the years. The market in general only enters a positive trend once bitcoin gives the start upside. Even Ethereum, the top 2 cryptocurrency can't survive without bitcoin. Always bitcoin loses demand and crashes, ETH follows BTC, also going down, sometimes losing even more value than BTC in percentage.

Some enthusiasts believe this will change someday once an altcoin rises as potential competitor to bitcoin for market's dominance, but in my opinion that is not going to happen on the next decade, at least.
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