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Topic: What is in mind of those, who against vaccination? - page 2. (Read 2352 times)

legendary
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"One way to get around [the problem] of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty… Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue,"

https://www.rt.com/uk/480977-downing-street-adviser-sabisky-eugenics/

Is it becoming clear enough that compulsory vaccinations are simply a pretext for transforming the world population into chattel property and promoting eugenics and genocide yet?

Yes, world wide conspiracy theory about vaccinations was just uncovered by Russia Today. Your trashy source doesn't prove anything about what you just said.

So are you making the claim that the quote is faked? People with no argument often attack the source because they know they can't argue against the content.


I'd like to hear from antivaxxers their positioning on the eradication of smallpox through a 28-years-long worldwide campaign.

Smallpox is a disease that affected 15 million people per year in the 60s and killed around 2 million of those. Therefore, had that proportion maintained, smallpox would have killed as many as 80 million people nowadays.

Worth mentioning is that since Ancient China inoculation has been a treatment/preventive measure used against smallpox, decreasing mortality by around 40 times.

Source.




Exactly why vaccinations should never be compulsory. This puts us a single step away from genocide if bad actors have control of the process.

Even precisely TARGETED genocide..
You could just say "Whites need vaccine #2, Asians need vaccine #3, and Hispanics need vaccine #1..
Then you could just release the virus #2 that you have compromised all the Whites to, and BAM targeted racial genocide..
Or you could just give everyone in for example Columbia vaccine #6, then wipe them out with corresponding virus #6 and then be like "Woah! What happened here?"..

This is the thing that the people frothing at the mouth to demonize "antivaxxers" like they are chanting for the death of Emmanuel Goldstein in the two minutes of hate never seem to understand. It is not about efficacy, it is about bodily autonomy. It is not like there was a precedent already set for horrible medical experimentation done on people without informed consent already for this exact reason... oh wait... right... Josef Mengele.
newbie
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I'd like to hear from antivaxxers their positioning on the eradication of smallpox through a 28-years-long worldwide campaign.

Smallpox is a disease that affected 15 million people per year in the 60s and killed around 2 million of those. Therefore, had that proportion maintained, smallpox would have killed as many as 80 million people nowadays.

Worth mentioning is that since Ancient China inoculation has been a treatment/preventive measure used against smallpox, decreasing mortality by around 40 times.

Source.

legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
"One way to get around [the problem] of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty… Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue,"

https://www.rt.com/uk/480977-downing-street-adviser-sabisky-eugenics/

Is it becoming clear enough that compulsory vaccinations are simply a pretext for transforming the world population into chattel property and promoting eugenics and genocide yet?

Yes, world wide conspiracy theory about vaccinations was just uncovered by Russia Today. Your trashy source doesn't prove anything about what you just said.

Why do you talk so silly? Few sources, even the one TECSHARE listed, ever prove anything.

Proof is found in experimentation. Also, it is considered to be found in court adjudication. Media ramblings are only hearsay, except when they show actual court records that can be found in books that record court records, or when they show the actual experimentation language used in the experimentation, with sources.

This is what Robert Kennedy, Jr. has been after all along. The law requires that vaccine companies do long-term studies to see if vaccines are dangerous. When Kennedy required through court action that those vaccine test records be provided, neither the government nor the vaccine companies provided them, though they had been required by law for the previous 30 years.

This is the proof that you can't trust the medical or the vaccine companies, or even the government. Or can you provide the tests the government couldn't and the vaccine companies wouldn't?

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newbie
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"One way to get around [the problem] of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty… Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue,"

https://www.rt.com/uk/480977-downing-street-adviser-sabisky-eugenics/

Is it becoming clear enough that compulsory vaccinations are simply a pretext for transforming the world population into chattel property and promoting eugenics and genocide yet?

Yes, world wide conspiracy theory about vaccinations was just uncovered by Russia Today. Your trashy source doesn't prove anything about what you just said.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
"One way to get around [the problem] of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty… Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue,"

https://www.rt.com/uk/480977-downing-street-adviser-sabisky-eugenics/

Is it becoming clear enough that compulsory vaccinations are simply a pretext for transforming the world population into chattel property and promoting eugenics and genocide yet?
sr. member
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The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.

There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.

How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?
In my country vaccination is good and government sends medical facilities to rural areas and do vaccination and post regular advertisement and posters in public places  , parents must be educated and take responsibility also for proper care of children 
sr. member
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You have rightly said that ignorance persists in modern-day people but I think many diseases can be cured by vaccination. After the birth of a child he is vaccinated with regard to his health so that he will not have any problems in his later life.

Ignorance is bliss, the more I observe today's western society, the more it's getting close to the Orwellian reality. I agree on everything you said except diseases can't be cured by vaccination, they only can be prevented by it

Yes, prevention can be prevented  but in addition to these new diseases are now being discovered but vaccines and vaccines are being discovered  There are bad and good aspects of everything. Vaccines on the one hand  as good as the other  have bad side effects  Many are against vaccination but there are many viruses that cannot be cured without vaccination.
legendary
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If a fireman was running around setting fires so he could have a secure job, how long do you think they would be allowed to operate for? Why is it the medical industry is allowed to profit directly from their own failures, which at this point seem more like fraud than incompetence? Failure in the medical industry is not a bug, it is a feature.

The fireman would be fired (and arrested) immediately.  Meanwhile, the fire department would continue fighting fires.

Just because firefighter arson is a thing doesn't mean that all firefighters are criminals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson

Yeah I don't really see the reason to punish an entire industry (and an entire fucking world when it comes to vaccines) due to the issues of certain companies within such an industry. We don't cut the funding for the police force because there are some bad apples in the police force.

If that's how we went about doing things, we'd have no one employed as they'd all be fired already. There are bad apples in every single facet of life, you live to work around them and thats it.

Firefighter arson though, good movie on that here - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101393/

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legendary
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In the last 100 years, millions of people have been able to save lives due to immunization. But in many countries there has been a surge in vaccinations, and this trend is now increasing. The use of the vaccine began in the 1980. But before that, 26 million people died from the disease every year. According to the World Health Organization estimates, the number of deaths from measles vaccine use decreased by 80% from 2000 years to 2017 years. Decades ago millions of people were infected with polio or died of malnutrition or death. Now polio is almost eliminated. Those who oppose vaccination do not understand why. They should change their mind.

The biggest thing that stopped polio was this. The vaccines didn't work. In fact they caused polio. So the medical went about re-defining the symptoms. All of a sudden, instances of polio went way down, and instances of spinal meningitis went way up. This was done around 1960 or 1961.

You probably won't find this info unless you can find some of the old magazines around... magazines which aren't posted on the Net. What you can do is Internet search on "what really stopped polio" to see that there is more to the story than vaccines. Much or the more is hygiene.

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newbie
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In the last 100 years, millions of people have been able to save lives due to immunization. But in many countries there has been a surge in vaccinations, and this trend is now increasing. The use of the vaccine began in the 1980. But before that, 26 million people died from the disease every year. According to the World Health Organization estimates, the number of deaths from measles vaccine use decreased by 80% from 2000 years to 2017 years. Decades ago millions of people were infected with polio or died of malnutrition or death. Now polio is almost eliminated. Those who oppose vaccination do not understand why. They should change their mind.
newbie
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There are some people and kids who are allergic to these vaccins and some people die in past because of vaccins, not other people, but total in the world might be 10% of population who have allergies, so don't blame them if they are against it.
legendary
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If a fireman was running around setting fires so he could have a secure job, how long do you think they would be allowed to operate for? Why is it the medical industry is allowed to profit directly from their own failures, which at this point seem more like fraud than incompetence? Failure in the medical industry is not a bug, it is a feature.

The fireman would be fired (and arrested) immediately.  Meanwhile, the fire department would continue fighting fires.

Just because firefighter arson is a thing doesn't mean that all firefighters are criminals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson

No shit. That was my point. It wouldn't be allowed. I know you are super thirsty to "get me", but maybe put a little thought into your replies before you trip all over yourself in your rush to get your little jab in hmm? No one said anything about all of anything, that is your insertion. Are you saying that the medical industry ISN'T corrupt?
legendary
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After the birth of a child, he is injected with disease and toxins to weaken his immune system, and to impair his natural development. This attempts to ensure that he won't have a later life.

If you will get bitten by either dog or tick, please, don't vaccinate. Let the natural selection do its work.

If I get bitten by a tick and it gives me flu-like symptoms, I immediately take a round of antibiotics just in case.  I've done so twice in the past decade (and have not done so when a tick bite has not made me ill.)  This because I have a rather well developed understanding of the methods by which borrelia burgdorferi bacteria work in the body and what does and what does not work against them.

I also have a fairly well developed understanding of the history of using ticks and other such creatures to distribute non-lethal biological warfare agents through a population and an idea of the other microorganisms which have been deployed in this manner.  This just from researching a variety of readily available information.  Running to corp/gov for a 'cure' for something they very likely are responsible for giving you in the first place has some problems which I would hope are fairly apparent.

BTW, did you get your 'LYMErix™ vaccine'?  How'd that work out for ya?

legendary
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After the birth of a child, he is injected with disease and toxins to weaken his immune system, and to impair his natural development. This attempts to ensure that he won't have a later life.
If you will get bitten by either dog or tick, please, don't vaccinate. Let the natural selection do its work.
legendary
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. After the birth of a child he is vaccinated with regard to his health so that he will not have any problems in his later life.

That isn't completely true. After the birth of a child, he is injected with disease and toxins to weaken his immune system, and to impair his natural development. This attempts to ensure that he won't have a later life.

Beyond that, even the pro-vaxxers don't claim that these things last 'for life'.  They want people constantly coming back to the clinic for periodic 'boosters' because what immunity they may or may not (fairly often not) confer is transient at best.

Getting the trivial childhood right-of-passage ailment and being mildly sick for a few days almost always gives life-long immunity which, as an adult, the mother passes on to her nursing child when the newborn infant is vulnerable.  This is real 'herd immunity'.  All the corp/gov vaccine lobby did is screwed up herd immunity that worked well for a hundred thousand years in a lot of these cases.

In other cases such as whooping cough they also made some people into asymptomatic carriers of the wild strain microbe so they spread it around everywhere they go.  Since the vaccine is increasingly failing to give any immunological protection at all, the increasing number of 'outbreaks' are in highly vaccinated populations and infecting people who are supposed to be 'protected because they are 'up-to-date.'

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. After the birth of a child he is vaccinated with regard to his health so that he will not have any problems in his later life.

That isn't completely true. After the birth of a child, he is injected with disease and toxins to weaken his immune system, and to impair his natural development. This attempts to ensure that he won't have a later life.
legendary
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If a fireman was running around setting fires so he could have a secure job, how long do you think they would be allowed to operate for? Why is it the medical industry is allowed to profit directly from their own failures, which at this point seem more like fraud than incompetence? Failure in the medical industry is not a bug, it is a feature.

The fireman would be fired (and arrested) immediately.  Meanwhile, the fire department would continue fighting fires.

Just because firefighter arson is a thing doesn't mean that all firefighters are criminals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson
legendary
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If a fireman was running around setting fires so he could have a secure job, how long do you think they would be allowed to operate for? Why is it the medical industry is allowed to profit directly from their own failures, which at this point seem more like fraud than incompetence? Failure in the medical industry is not a bug, it is a feature.
legendary
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If people won't start taking notice of how they are being harmed, isn't it their own fault when they die?


Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. on the Stunning Corruption in the Vaccine Industry...



All of the 72 vaccines mandated for children are produced by four companies: Merck, Sanofi, Pfizer, and Glaxo-Smith Kline. No vaccine ever has been safety tested with a real placebo. He says the CDC functions as a vaccine company with a budget of $11- billion per year. $5-billion is spent on buying vaccines at inflated prices. The CDC approves vaccines, buys them from their manufacturer friends, and then forces 78-million people to use them even though they have never been tested for safety. In addition to making $60-billion per year selling vaccines, the companies make an additional $500-billion selling medications for diseases the vaccines cause. (Note: if you are in a hurry, skip ahead to the 7:45 minute marker) -GEG


RT America Interviews Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGlE3AJWEOY



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You have rightly said that ignorance persists in modern-day people but I think many diseases can be cured by vaccination. After the birth of a child he is vaccinated with regard to his health so that he will not have any problems in his later life.

Ignorance is bliss, the more I observe today's western society, the more it's getting close to the Orwellian reality. I agree on everything you said except diseases can't be cured by vaccination, they only can be prevented by it
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