Topic: What is in mind of those, who against vaccination? - page 7. (Read 2352 times)

The problem in my country, from my observation, is due to poor sensitization and lack of accurate source of information. People who cant read tend to rely on what they hear others say. Unfortunately, the rumors are mostly negative. The way forward, I believe, is proper public education on the essence of vaccines, risks associated with skipping and so on. You cant transform all but majority may be brought into the light.

What country?  In lots of countries wild strain paralytic polio is rare or non-existent but vaccine strain paralytic polio is increasingly common.  That means that the vaccination is spreading a mutant form of the disease.

By the way, did it ever occur to you to look into the Dengvaxia issue and analyze how and why it came about.  It seems to have been drug corporations producing bogus science and paying off corrupt government officials.  Did it occur to you to wonder if the same thing might be happening with the other coerced vaccinations?  I mean Sanofi-Pastuer was the company who was responsible the Dengvaxia malfeasance and they practically own the vaccine distribution in The Philippines.  Would you write of Dengvaxia to an isolated case of a few bad apples, or would you expend just a little bit of effort to see if the problems are more wide-spread?

Because of that kind of mindset more and more people suffered. They thought refusing to vaccinations save lives but in reality they're at risk. Since parents refused to get their child vaccinated, polio cases are present once again in our country. Actually we totally eradicated this years ago but here we go again . I know that the Dengvaxia Project was a failure but I hope you continue to vaccinate your kids (anti measles, anti polio, anti chicken pox etc.) because essential oils is definitely not enough to protect them against these diseases.

There were some fatalities due to vaccination but few in percentage compared if the population wasn't vaccinated. Let's not judge vaccination because of this unlucky ones. Lets think if the whole population was not vaccinated. How many would have died?

Some people have a backround issues about vaccination so we cannot blame the people who are afraid to have it. Like in the case of Phillipines, we have an issue about the vaccine dengvaxia which affected a lot of children and died because of infections. Although our health gobernment are stating that everything was back to normal, Filipino people still have hard time to accept vaccination.

Vaccines have changed, and they are no longer a part of so-called health care, but are now part of the global eugenics programme, The brainwashing is performed by false propaganda based on manipulated facts, and a lack of stats based on anything other than very short term results.

I personally am against mandatory vaccinations vaccines can kill people, it must be a choice of people

I'm not 'contro' on efficient use of energy.  In fact I am right now in some heavy research about cooling buildings in a high temp high humidity environment.  Not an easy problem thermodynamically.

I am against efficient use of energy to 'save the earth'.  Anthropogenic climate change is 99.999% scam to make rich people have more control and to have their lackies make some bucks while the serve as pawns in a game which they don't even understand.  They'll be flushed when their job is done.

I'm interested in alternative energy methods only because I have money to burn and I enjoy a challenge.  Coal would give the most people the best quality of life as long as it is burnt in facilities which have scrubbers (such as those in the U.S..)  Most of the 'greenie' crowd are conditioned to hate human beings and want a population reduction because that's how their sponsors have conditioned them.

'Green energy' will come along naturally when it makes economic sense.  Right now it's mostly a scam funded by the dynastic wealth families for nefarious reasons, but some of the wasted money ends up in millions of people's pockets which keeps the game going.  True, technological progress is moving faster by dumping trillions into the boondoggle, but since global climate change is a sham it really doesn't matter.  There are better and more humane ways to spend the money.  Artificial scarcity in energy will kill millions and billions...maybe that's part of the idea...

The most benefit received from attempting to do something about climate change, is that CC workers will feel comfortable with themselves that they did something they thought was beneficial for something.

Hopefully they will be dead and gone before the next big volcano erupts, and makes all their operations into something deadly for the world. Think of how bad they would feel to know that they had helped the disaster be worse.

Well, some people are always contro... I think it is a character, not ideas o something else. There are people who just need to be against others. I am writing about climate and environment and well, i see people who don't think we need to change something about it. My blog is here www.zeroenergy-systems.com

I was pro-vaccine from the initial indoctrination that we all get.  I was pretty much pro-everything which was marketed as 'science'.  When I started looking into the science behind vaccines I expected that it would re-enforce my pro-vaccine beliefs.  What I found eventually shifted me 180 degrees.

Actually the above is more true of 'global warming'.  I think with vaccines the shift started when I was writings from old-time social engineers about how injections could be used in the future to shape and mold human populations coupled with lots and lots of reports of injury from victims that piqued my interest enough that I started reading and observing the scientific and medical papers.

It is hard not to notice that those arguing pro-global-warming and pro-vaccine lean heavily on appeal to authority and actively discourage any deeper understanding of the fundamental principles of science.  OTOH, people who don't tow the mainstream line on these topics often bend over backwards to teach basic things like what the n=0.05 in a statistical calculation.  The apperent reason is that when real science and real understanding wins, they win.

I would like to think it's something hardwired in them from the time they were kids and really can't see the benefits because they are brainwashed

or maybe it's part of their beliefs and faith at play...they have their reasons, that's a given !

In my country, many people are vaccinating their children because the number of hospital child birth is increasing and mothers are more enlightened on child vaccination

Read what else is in the vaccines.


Highly toxic ingredients are deliberately formulated into mandatory vaccines so that you are forced to submit to being poisoned

Oh, please. The CDC and AMA and other medical websites are even saying that vaccines cause many of the outbreaks. If you can't believe them for this, then why are you believing them for the other? And that is in the face of all the independent data coming out that says the same thing.

What you might be getting with vaccines is a little salvation now for a whole lot worse later. That's exactly how a Ponzi scheme works.

Keep on believing in vaccines. It's a good religion... just like Islam.

Shaw and Tomljanovic made a very slight error in one of their papers.  I don't recall the exact details.  I think they shifted an age cohort without a proper explanation.  I don't remember if it was this paper, but from 'our side' it is best to avoid use of their work when possible.  There is a growing mass of information from others who've not made such a mistake.

The thing is that the pro-vax side can use the most basic and crude forms of fraud and their work will be lauded.  More importantly, the 'better' the fraud the more funding they can expect going forward.  Same as with global climate change fraudsters.

'Our side' doesn't have this luxury.  Quite the opposite.  The one thing 'we' have on our side is truth, and good science will almost always reward that...after a few decades...  The power of 'the truth' is the basis for the attack on real science by the likes of Big Pharma and the Greenie crowd.  But 'we' have to be extra super careful to do everything perfectly.  Even then we'll be smeared, but the smear can be wiped clean and eventually the other side sustains a hit for it.  Clever people on the truth side can bait the fraud side into attacks which will backfire on them because, in point of fact, the fraudster side 'scientists' are sell-outs and often because they are simply not very smart.  Cannot make it doing real science.

The fraudsters have the government and the entire mainstream media behind them (since the same group of people own both) so even when 'the truth' wins, most people don't know it.  But then again, most people are fairly useless sheeple class and what they think they know doesn't really have much of an impact on the real world.  When it comes to vaccines, the sheeple class will damage their kids upon demand by corp/gov, and their kids will end up as stupid as they are.  It's sad and it will have a negative impact on society, but it's not probably the best battle to fight right now.

A large portion of the measles outbreaks are resulting directly from vaccinations and then spreading. This is confirmed by genotype sequencing as the version used for vacinations is no longer in the wild.

"Rapid Identification of Measles Virus Vaccine Genotype by Real-Time PCR"
https://jcm.asm.org/content/jcm/55/3/735.full.pdf

"Aluminum vaccine adjuvants: are they safe?"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21568886

^^^ If anyone would like an classic example of 'dogma', here it is ^^^

It's also antithetical to the concept of 'science'.  This guy exhibits exactly what the school system is designed to teach.  The public school systems are not failing.  They are, in fact, succeeding behind the wildest dreams of the people who fund and who designed them.

Please, the measles outbreaks in Brooklyn NY right now suggest otherwise.   Vaccinations are scientifically proven to reduce and eradicate deadly diseases.   Any other conclusion is ignorance.

But if you look for the Irene Pi video in some of the posts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrRPN81XLEs), you will see that the medical is admitting that they don't know if more lives are lost from vaccines or without them.

Arizona Breakfast Club - September 14, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrRPN81XLEs