Topic: What's wrong with eating meat? - page 25. (Read 30304 times)

Yeah I saw it but why is he still there? What about Sagan? And some of the others are religious but I don't know about all of them.

Here we go again, didn't you see the huge striketrough on Hawkings, how about the other dozen of proficient scientist that changed the world that are mentioned there ?
Sagan is an agnostic theist end and Einsteins believes in god, the rest of that list, clearly stated they are religious and believes in god, and that list puts to shame, the few scientist mentioned in that so called picture (I also don't consider Thomas Edison as proficient scientist considering what he did but that's another topic).

So to conclude neither religion or being a vegetarian or not add to your intelligence or remove anything from it and claiming such a thing is plain stupidity, just give your body all the substances it needs, and meat is one of them.

No they're all atheists and vegans. Just kidding. You're not confused. Carl Sagan & Hawking aren't religious or believe in god and neither does Einstein. Please read the thread after that post.

What's that list of? Karl Sagan & Hawkings aren't religious or am I confused here?

He's very close minded and never understand logic or facts. Read that post and the following ones he just linked to.

Translation: I am closed minded and chose not to view your other statements yet I still replied saying you were completely wrong.

Where are your reference points from? Honestly I'm open to all ears, unlike you who will never try being a vegan. You will only live your life life in delusion thinking your viewpoint is best.

I've read a lot of sources that actually said a Vegan diet would not work. Most of them are completely false and stem from the same ideology you fools come at me with. Not enough nutrients. There are no scientific studies that back it up. There is no benefit to avoiding animal products. Yet I tried it out anyway, that's what having an open mind is all about.

I found out those sources were wrong through first hand experience. Then I did my own research, found out you can get all the animal nutrients from a Vegan diet regardless of what those sources say. That there are a TON of scientific evidence that back it up. And that there is a TON of benefit to it too.


No shit? In Einstein's entire life he said he always felt guilty eating animals but never adopted a vegetarian diet until later in his life. Meaning he actually thought about his actions.

You on the other hand, don't feel guilty about it nor have you ever thought about why you eat what you eat.

Like I stated previously, a large majority of vegans and vegetarians come from a meat eating diet, such as a majority of atheists come from a religion.

You also obviously ignored Einstein's quote:

"So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that man was not born to be a carnivore." - Albert Einstein


This argument holds no grounds as a large majority of the population in general have been meat eaters.

Out of all the geniuses possible, will you not agree that some of the most influential geniuses of all time have been vegan / vegetarian?:

And yes, almost everyone that is a vegetarian or vegan start out as a meat eater but found information that diverted them away from it.

Einstein - Theory of Relativity. Had the most groundbreaking discovery of the 20th century.
Isaac Newton - Created Calculus and Founded Physics. He is considered the father of Physics, the father of Calculus, the Father of Modern Medicine, and even the Father of Modern Science.
Nikola Tesla - Invented the radio and Alternating Current. Has a cult following that many of his inventions were stolen.
Gandhi - Civil Rights Movement
Buddha - Founded Buddhism
Steve Jobs - Created Apple
Ramanujan - Genius mathematician.
Edward Wittin - Einstein's successor and foremost string theorist
Brian Greene - Genius who refuted Einstein's theory that space could stretch but not tear.
Rosa Parks
Thomas Edison
Benjamin Franklin
Prince
Mike Tyson
Forest Whitaker
Natalie Portman
George Bernard Shaw
Leonardo Da Vinci
Leo Tolstoy
Cesar Chavez
Russell Brand
Carl Lewis
Paul McCartney
Bree Olson
Alicia Silverstone
John Harvey Kellogg, etc.


There are so many influential geniuses who have been Vegan / Vegetarian like Ellen Degeneres and the Dalai Lama. Even Hitler was a Vegetarian. These guys were all open minded and challenged the culture they were born in. Unlike you trolls.

Also, you will probably just say everything I said here is BS, which is why it's pointless to argue with you guys. This is how atheists feel when they are arguing against Christians: You can't win, even though you are right every time.

I'm not sure the bible saying there was a person called Jesus is historical proof/truth.

Thou shall not murder unless you're a homosexual. What does the ammount of copies sold have to do with anything either?

It's comparing how Veganism and Atheism are very related to each other while Christianity and Meat Eating are just as similar to each other.

For example, to become an atheist or a vegan, you have to challenge your cultural views. You have to view the world with an open mind and research topics that may hurt your original cultural belief but will irregardlessly improve your intellect as you can now see the world from a new perspective.

To stay a Christian or meat eater, you have to keep a closed mind, you have to say every opposing evidence is wrong with no argument.

Here are some more similarities:

Most people are born religious and meat eater - Most people are not born vegan or atheist.
Religious and meat eaters have lower IQ - Vegans and atheists have higher IQ.
Religious and meat eaters don't question their belief - Vegans and atheists question all new information.
Religious and meat eaters only see the world in one way - Vegans and atheists have seen the world in different ways.

Also when you are an atheist debating against a Christian, it is like a Vegan debating against meat eaters. The christian or meat eater will not give strong arguments and will not listen to your arguments. The vegan or atheist will give strong arguments backed with factual information but more than likely it will fall on deaf ears.

Understand now?

What a load of rubbish, typical fake and desperate stats by vegans who claim to be above everyone. Vegans have been discredited by science constantly but they will never admit.

FYI Einstein turned Vegetation only in the last year of his life this is well documented. He grew up eating meat he  his mind developed eating meat and he had high IQ eating meat. He said those quotes about his slight guilt about eating meat in his final years and only became veg in his last year. Vegans don't have higher IQ its just rubbish propaganda. Notice how the chart says "some of these geniuses were vegans" yet they put them all under vegan list how pathetic.

The vast majority of geniuses throughout history have all been meat eaters except some from India.

Don't bring religion into this as religion is irrelevant to your lifestyle/diet.

http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html

Take a look at these closed minded people. They both literally quoted reference links and both claim "there are no sources." Come on guys, just learn to accept new information and take it in. Accept that factual information exists regardless of your bias towards your own beliefs.

Have you ever tried what it was like being a vegan? Have you ever put research into the topic? Are you thinking critically with an open mind and challenging your own cultural beliefs? Or, do you just do exactly as the bullet points in the Christiniaty / Meat Eater points say:

- Has only experienced their own side and therefore know everything
- Bases their belief on how they were raised
- Will read the first word of your argument and say you are wrong, no argument given

Also, you guys give no arguments other than "that is bullshit" and "this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen" when you guys are very closed minded into accepting new information.

What is it with new information that scares you? The fact that your old beliefs could be challenged? That maybe the way you were raised was wrong? A lot of people were raised to do things a certain way, and only a few of them question why, and those that find answers dramatically improve their lives as they now have two perspective to go off of instead of just one. Not you guys though, you guys are closed minded and will not see evidence right in front of you.

Actually, the christian belief that Earth is 6000 years old comes from many believers who made chronological analyses of the events described in the bible and of the descendence of humans from Adam and Eve (even Isaac Newton contributed to these researchs). So it is silly to say the bible contains historical truths; it's rather a book of metaphors.

But this is off-topic.

No like that Jesus is a real person that has walked the earth. Bible never states how many days are in a year, many hours in a day, etc. So yes its completley plausible that Earth is 6000 "years" old.

It's not because there's some exemple of common sense in the bible, that everything in it can be taken litteraly without questioning.
And historical truths? Like that the Earth is 6000 years old?

Even if your not of Christiain faith, theres still things that are common sense, and historical truths.

For example
Thou shall not murder? Common sense, happens to be in the bible.
Adultery, lying, all common sense, "happens" to be in the bible. So yeah, "Intelligent" people may or may not get there rules/morality from the bible but does not mean you should dismiss the book altogether. That maybe a reason why its the number one most sold book.....

He probably wasn’t looking in any bible seeing as intelligent people don't get their rules or morality from such books.