Author

Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 166. (Read 450551 times)

legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
November 09, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
...
22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.

That's news to me.  I hunt because I and my friends and family like the meat which is not infused with whatever they are putting into factory-farmed animals and I can help the Fish and Wildlife people achieve the ecological balance that they would like for the herds in the area.  I have enough land to get elk tags automatically though.

22 ain't gonna work for that, unless you want to go tracking.

Get one of those .22 drum fed automatics that shoots over 2000 rounds a minute. You can carve a lot of things up with it.

Smiley

That would still most likely just piss off an elk and make it uncomfortable with a bunch of small lead lumps under it's hide.  I've got a 300 win mag for these animals.  If I need to take them from my newly prepared area I could probably do so with a 12 ga slug due to the topography, but I would like to make this be an area where they feel safe and comfortable.  I checked yesterday and there is cropped grass and elk droppings so it is working.  This winter I'll prepare some more area as pasture for this purpose.  I hope to fill both of my tags from the ridge in a different part of my property, and do the shooting from the valley floor.  That's what the win mag is good for.


Yep, you got all that right.  And you don't want to go on a half hour hunt for that bleeding animal, and then haul the carcass back.  Question - are you of the opinion the 223 is no good for this?  What distance, anyway?

Oh, regarding the 2000 rpm suggestion.  Nope, you'd get exactly one shot at that elk.  See, that little sting makes him move.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
November 09, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.
It's when crazy people who are not stable get ahold of guns. There needs to be tighter controls on who is able to carry. Better screening, interview process, psychological profile?

Which would not control all who are able to carry or get a hold of guns.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
November 09, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.
It's when crazy people who are not stable get ahold of guns. There needs to be tighter controls on who is able to carry. Better screening, interview process, psychological profile?
hero member
Activity: 676
Merit: 500
November 04, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
October 31, 2015, 09:28:46 PM
...
22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.

That's news to me.  I hunt because I and my friends and family like the meat which is not infused with whatever they are putting into factory-farmed animals and I can help the Fish and Wildlife people achieve the ecological balance that they would like for the herds in the area.  I have enough land to get elk tags automatically though.

22 ain't gonna work for that, unless you want to go tracking.

Get one of those .22 drum fed automatics that shoots over 2000 rounds a minute. You can carve a lot of things up with it.

Smiley

That would still most likely just piss off an elk and make it uncomfortable with a bunch of small lead lumps under it's hide.  I've got a 300 win mag for these animals.  If I need to take them from my newly prepared area I could probably do so with a 12 ga slug due to the topography, but I would like to make this be an area where they feel safe and comfortable.  I checked yesterday and there is cropped grass and elk droppings so it is working.  This winter I'll prepare some more area as pasture for this purpose.  I hope to fill both of my tags from the ridge in a different part of my property, and do the shooting from the valley floor.  That's what the win mag is good for.

legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
October 31, 2015, 05:06:49 PM
...
22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.

That's news to me.  I hunt because I and my friends and family like the meat which is not infused with whatever they are putting into factory-farmed animals and I can help the Fish and Wildlife people achieve the ecological balance that they would like for the herds in the area.  I have enough land to get elk tags automatically though.


22 ain't gonna work for that, unless you want to go tracking.

Get one of those .22 drum fed automatics that shoots over 2000 rounds a minute. You can carve a lot of things up with it.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
October 31, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
...
22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.

That's news to me.  I hunt because I and my friends and family like the meat which is not infused with whatever they are putting into factory-farmed animals and I can help the Fish and Wildlife people achieve the ecological balance that they would like for the herds in the area.  I have enough land to get elk tags automatically though.


22 ain't gonna work for that, unless you want to go tracking.
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
October 31, 2015, 12:20:30 PM
...
22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.

That's news to me.  I hunt because I and my friends and family like the meat which is not infused with whatever they are putting into factory-farmed animals and I can help the Fish and Wildlife people achieve the ecological balance that they would like for the herds in the area.  I have enough land to get elk tags automatically though.

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
October 31, 2015, 05:04:27 AM
Everyone should be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. For this purpose it is necessary to allow free carrying of weapons to those citizens who are recognized as adequate.
I wish it was possible in Europe... At least in my country, it's really hard to even have a 9mm pistol. It's not even legal to own old weapons like WW2 Mosin-Nagant :/

Can you or are you allowed to get 22LR pistols or rifles?

Just curious.

They seem to be my personal favorite, although of course not considered true defense weapons.

22LR rifles are allowed for trainings and hunting, but in order to be a hunter, you have to have lots of money and passion for drinking after every hunt. About .22 pistols - honestly, I have no idea.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
October 31, 2015, 12:34:21 AM
Why contorl a gun when you can control a person to not control the gun against human violations. Its us who needs discipline but off course words are not enough. But if this goes on and on, it might lead to different ways. But i approve this. Guns should not be obtained easily. and the government should do a thing on illegal fire arms.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
October 30, 2015, 08:25:30 PM
Everyone should be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. For this purpose it is necessary to allow free carrying of weapons to those citizens who are recognized as adequate.
I wish it was possible in Europe... At least in my country, it's really hard to even have a 9mm pistol. It's not even legal to own old weapons like WW2 Mosin-Nagant :/

Can you or are you allowed to get 22LR pistols or rifles?

Just curious.

They seem to be my personal favorite, although of course not considered true defense weapons.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
October 30, 2015, 07:23:27 PM
Everyone should be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. For this purpose it is necessary to allow free carrying of weapons to those citizens who are recognized as adequate.

Recognized by whom?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
October 30, 2015, 07:22:25 PM
Everyone should be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. For this purpose it is necessary to allow free carrying of weapons to those citizens who are recognized as adequate.
I wish it was possible in Europe... At least in my country, it's really hard to even have a 9mm pistol. It's not even legal to own old weapons like WW2 Mosin-Nagant :/
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1132
October 30, 2015, 07:07:35 PM
Everyone should be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. For this purpose it is necessary to allow free carrying of weapons to those citizens who are recognized as adequate.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
October 30, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
Video: Gun Control: Only The Mentally Ill commit Mass Murders? They could be right

"They are right, Mentally Ill people do commit mass murder! Do not let yourself become a victim of the Mentally Ill!"
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
October 25, 2015, 01:50:10 PM
To defend ourselves we should have allowance to carry weapon.
I don't say I'm not humanist or anything other. I say carrying weapon may be really needed sometimes.

A compete ban on the possession of all types of fire-arms by the civilians can be enforced, in case the government succeeds in bringing down the crime rate to zero. If they are unable to do it, then there is no point in persecuting the ordinary citizens, who just want to defend themselves from the violent criminals, who indulge in home invasions and burglaries.

Sure there is a point, and it is the central point - increasing and maintaining control over the ordinary citizen.   It never did and does not have anything to do with relations between guns and crime, or the prevention of crime.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1219
October 25, 2015, 01:18:53 PM
To defend ourselves we should have allowance to carry weapon.
I don't say I'm not humanist or anything other. I say carrying weapon may be really needed sometimes.

A compete ban on the possession of all types of fire-arms by the civilians can be enforced, in case the government succeeds in bringing down the crime rate to zero. If they are unable to do it, then there is no point in persecuting the ordinary citizens, who just want to defend themselves from the violent criminals, who indulge in home invasions and burglaries.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
October 25, 2015, 01:07:26 PM
To defend ourselves we should have allowance to carry weapon.
I don't say I'm not humanist or anything other. I say carrying weapon may be really needed sometimes.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
Never risk more than what you're willing to lose
October 25, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
If you freeze a big enough piece of water you can kill someone by dropping it off a building. I think water should be banned as well. It really bothers me how people can say guns are bad but they live in a nice suburban area with low crime rates.  I live in a bad area and honestly not having a gun here is just a bad idea
 The local criminals don't care about any laws.  Do you think gun control will stop them from carrying? These laws only hurt law abiding citizens not criminals.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
October 25, 2015, 08:56:18 AM

http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/details/2013-01-your-opinions-on-gun-control-from-a-humanist-perspec

I find the arguments over gun control and registration ridiculous. I usually shut my opponents up when I point out that automobiles in the hands of the inexperienced and untrained are dangerous, and therefore we have compulsory tests and licensing to drive a car. The same logic applies to gun control, they are dangerous and there should be compulsory tests to determine your aptitude to handle a gun with subsequent registration and licensing. I do not see why anyone would consider this unreason.
                                                    
                                                          (Howard McFann, Florence, South Carolina)

God, I love Newspeak like "humanist" in place of "violent sociopath* safety advocate". *who perpetually have all the deadly weapons they want, whether they be automobiles, guns, blades, or blunt objects, while all those infringements only "reasonably" deny the victims of violent sociopaths, our human right to self-defense.
Aw come on, what's wrong with a humanist approach guided by reasonable restrictions?  No one can argue with something that's for the benefit of the children...Compulsary reasonableness can be implemented with wise oversight by the guiding hand of the State.  I would propose six successive tests for gun ownership, each taking approximately three months to complete - well, unless the Agency received additional funding, of course.  The tests would be administered by  experts, and the results reviewed by the Gun Qualification Committee. 

Listen, I'm kind of busy.  Is that enough of an explanation for now?  I have to get back to devising the rules set for the Bullet Registration Division, we're currently studying fee schedules for designated Bullet Owners. 

LOL....
Jump to: