Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 173. (Read 450551 times)

I find it funny that guns are marketed as tough and manly, when the reality is that gun holders seem so fucking scared all the time.

"I feel so naked without my shiny metal dildo"  

The corporations are just profiting off of your base instincts, the same way they put cigarettes, gum, chocolates, and Panadol on display near the checkouts in stores, so people have all their impulsive needs met. And the chocolate shelving goes all the way down to the ground, so that tiny kids whose brains haven't fully developed yet get enticed by the bright colours.

Guns. Fear of death. Same shit, different day.

Well then you're stuck sleeping in the bed you sharted in.
Populism, population control, and keeping people on their toes, all with the one policy.

Or maybe it's not populism... Are you suggesting that a majority of the "dumb masses" were actually against more gun freedoms, but the politicians weren't? Didn't you mention something about control freaks? Ah, yes...


Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.


You guys always make the Old West sound so romantic 

Were the musket holders a bit like those wrought iron umbrella stands? And after happy hour, drunken groups would go on a mini safari on horseback, and the one who shot the least Indians had to shout the next round?


That's Libertarianism for ya. Lots of gun freedoms, and the freedom for corporations to run a cynical profit-driven health system.
Oh wait, you'd rather have a slave class, that is forcibly medicated and/or locked up, so their crazy tendencies don't get in the way of your perfectly rational religion?

Gun-Controlled Chicago Sees Deadliest Month In 13 Years



Chicago faces escalating gun violence
The Chicago Tribune says September is the city's deadliest in 13 years with 60 homicides. Charlene Carruthers from the Black Youth Project and The Chicago Tribune's Alexandra Chachkevitch join to discuss.


http://www.msnbc.com/melissa-harris-perry/watch/chicago-faces-escalating-gun-violence-537991747782?cid=sm_tw_msnbc


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0bama, will make a live appearance from the WH  to talk ab... Oh. Never mind. Even he does not care.

Police search Parramatta mosque gunman allegedly visited before shooting

Mosque chairman says detectives did not find anything during inspection on Saturday and that his mosque is ‘not open for criminal activity’

Police have searched the mosque visited by the Sydney teenager who allegedly shot dead New South Wales police employee Curtis Cheng outside Parramatta headquarters on Friday, before being killed in a firefight with police.

Video footage from Seven News shows black-clad 15-year-old Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad pacing outside the Charles Street police complex moments after shooting Cheng at point-blank range from behind. The 58-year-old accountant was a 17-year veteran of the NSW police finance department.
Farhad can be seen waving a handgun and firing at three special constables, tasked with protecting the police station, who went outside when they heard gunshots. The video then cuts to Farhad lying at the bottom of the entry ramp, dead.

The NSW premier, Mike Baird, and police commissioner, Andrew Scipione, paid a personal visit to Cheng’s family over the weekend to express their condolences.

Cheng’s wife, Selina, son, Alpha, and daughter, Zilvia, released a statement on Sunday remembering him as “a kind, gentle, and loving person”.

“He was humorous, generous of heart, and always put the family first,” the statement said. “He has set a tremendous example for us as a family.

“We are deeply saddened and heartbroken that he has been taken from us, but we are truly grateful for the fruitful and happy life he has shared with us.”

read more: http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/04/police-search-parramatta-mosque-gunman-allegedly-visited-before-shooting

Obama's Mass Murder Speech Contains Error
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Obama's Impassioned Mass-Murder Speech Includes Error

Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America

The President's impassioned Oregon speech, moving as it was, missed a key point that could lead to real progress on this terrible issue of mass murder.

The 16 black Americans shot and murdered in ghettos that same day, and the day before, tragically got no news coverage.

This is stunning, unmentioned -- and those lives matter.

That black-lives gunfire atrocity is repeated, daily. And will remain true tomorrow when another 16 are murdered, but get no "coverage" -- 6,000 per year.

The "Graph of Death" Mr. Obama asked for is already available here:
http://www.gunlaws.com/GunshotDemographics.htm
(with gut-wrenching explanation)

By focusing on an isolated "newsworthy" tragedy in one place, Mr. Obama unknowingly obscures the real issue, and does indeed politicize it -- as he forthrightly admitted.

NOTE: Every action of this Oregon murderer is already 100% illegal -- legal scholars know the call for new laws is superfluous and disingenuous. It is a political agenda that weakens support and the true effort to solve the problem.

The President made a repeated and critical mistake: New laws affecting all Americans will not affect the lone psychotics who commit these atrocities --

The medical community stands as the greatest obstacle in getting to the psychotics.

And the biggest ignored issue of all is: The existing background checks have stopped two million people from buying guns because they are known criminals or mentally unfit -- and they are simply turned loose on the streets.

We have their names and addresses -- and our government just sets them free, right after they try to buy guns.*

Mr. President, do something about that if you're really serious.

Don't try to pass something else, that you know and admit Congress and the public will resist. Act now.

If you want more common-sense solutions, call me.

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*It's not completely clear that all two million people are actually guilty of anything, since their rights are denied but they are not brought to trial, indicted, convicted of anything, confronted by their accusers or even notified of what they are charged with, but these are separate issues. Certainly, seeking another background check system as the President requests, at great expense, before doing something with the background check we already have working, is a poor allocation of scarce funds and limited police resources. The news media should be aware of these things and bring these points out. Bloomfield Press has white papers and experts available that address these topics.

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Actually I have known two, and the second one did own a chimp.  That's a far more complex story.

Anyway, it has zero to do with the current discussion. 

For the  benefit of those outside the USA, I will say this.  Believers in the second amendment and conceal carry crosses all the political spectrums in the USA. It's only seemingly a political issue at the top, where the media projects opinion and attitude out to the masses.  Or tries to.  Any political goes wacko anti-gun, he gets booted out in short order.  Obama's done it in stealth mode, lying to get elected and then showing his true colors.

But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Towns in the Old West handled this on a practical basis.  You went in a bar, you left the guns at the door.

We need to get practical again.  Until the bastards pushing a simplified anti-gun agenda start vocalizing the issue of prescription psychoactive drugs and their various causative effects on crazed killings, there will be no improvement in the statistics.  I'm not optimistic.

I didn't exclusively "blame women."  I blamed the subset of gormless, objectively pro-authoritarian women and feminized men who have gone soft.  Obviously, the Temperance Movement (just like the Gun Grabbers today) involved plenty of such men.

I should have said 'feminine' instead of 'female' to make it absolutely clear I was referring to psychological mindset, not irrelevant biological particularities of sex/gender.


There, I improved my statement to not inadvertently include righteous gun-toting gals like yourself and Ann Barnhardt.

Happy now?  Maybe in the future, you could try reading others' writings in (charitable) ways that make the most sense, instead of parsing so as to maximize opportunity for offense.   

I am noticing.   See him all over the forum and he always has some good info or points to make.   

BADecker is such a wizard .

LoL   now I want a monkey.   Little golden Main or something small like you mentioned.   Emm.  A chimp would be way to heavy.  Would have to be a lion tamer or a golden maine.  They are pretty aggressive though fr being so small.   Lol

Any time someone says that I'm reminded of a guy I knew that had a pet monkey.  And it went out with him, and was literally around his neck.  Can't remember what kind, smaller than a chimp.

Well, so he carried daily.   And I guess if you messed with him, you messed with his monkey around his neck.

Would NOT want to see that think angry and coming your way....

Well said.   Im pro-gun.  Carry daily.   And no one will take that from me.   Otherwise I would consider them the monkey on my back.

Exactly right! However, the men have a little bit of an excuse... about not being MEN I mean. The excuse is the church. The church says that people are supposed to obey their government, and the good, church-going men simply don't think to ask: Who is my government? How did it get to be my government? Did my parents understand this stuff?

There are two ways in which people become part of a nation:
1. They agree to it and are accepted by the nation as one of its own;
2. They are forced into the nation and Stockholm Syndrome sets in.
That's it. There are no other ways. If one person asks questions, and another person says that the first person is part of the nation, perhaps there is some slave-making going on.

Guns are for putting down the slavers who don't obey the law that says no more slavery.

I encourage you all to consider how and why you are a part of the nation that you are a part of, be it a formal nation, or the temporary "nation" of the rapist trying to foist himself on you. And if it turns out that you never voluntarily wanted to be part, and that you don't want to be part now, get your guns, join with like-minded folks, and get the slavers off your back.

I find it funny that the woman I know (myself included) are arguing for us to keep our guns, and the men on this forum are arguing over us losing them, yet you blame women.

I would say blame the men who have gone soft and forgotten why we were allowed the right to own guns in the first place.

this civilian admin would not hesitate to kill american children to foster the agenda of it's financial master (gmos, nuke industry, vaccines, fracking, plant banned, growing to sell bodies of babies etc).

if I can't trust you with Arms, it means I can't trust you with anything. as such :


as such I defy anyone to come and take mine :

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btw I am or in the control room near the keys entry console or in the bar at the 47 floors near the jacuzzi... good luck to come near... it is on auto pilot (fire at will to any unidentified object).

Hard cases (boo hoo OREGON bluh bluh bluh bluh) make bad law, precisely because waving the bloody shirt (ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENS) is a logical fallacy.

But you have fun casually (yet self-righteously) relinquishing the freedoms our Founding Fathers fought to enshrine in our Constitution.

Agitating to abandon a longstanding foundational cultural tradition (like RKBA) because of a singular emotionally traumatic event is a very female (and Marxist) reaction.  That's why we didn't let them vote until recently, and why everything has gone to shit since we did.

Wife beating?  Blame the inanimate Thing (booze) and ban alcohol!  Viva the Women's Temperance League!  Prohibition forever!  What could possibly go wrong?

Crazy off-his-meds and/or jihad guy massacre?  Blame the inanimate Thing (gun) and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Let's just roll over and let a nice, strong tyranny have its way with our ovaries.  At least our precious offspring be Safe.  Better raped in safety than free and dead, right?

No.  No, no, no!

Fuck off to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  You are not qualified participate in a serious discussion regarding matters of life and death.  Go watch the baby and nurture something.

Let me be clear.  Domesticated, servile, asinine people like you are the exact reason why democracy has failed.  People who don't own property/pay taxes, and have never been eligible for the draft, have no business voting.  It's a blatant conflict of interest.

Do not presume to impose your short-sighted, risk averse emotional responses on free, rational individuals.  Or you may be harmed in the attempt.

And this is exactly why criminals don't do this - use pencils or knives.

Criminals go out and get guns or make guns and then head for the school.

In a totally gun-free world, we wouldn't have guns to worry about. But now that guns have been invented, there will never be a gun-free world. There will only be those with guns, and those without them.

In addition, guns are an equalizer. A wimp might be able to stab someone with a knife. But a bully could stab someone over and over by holding him down and doing it. However, if the victim had a gun, the bully would be dead.

If both the bully and the victim had guns, there would be an equal chance that the bully would die. A gun is an equalizer. Instinctively, everyone knows this. Bullies go away when they see the victim has a gun. Bullies who are crazies will never go away, even in the face of a gun, except when they are shot.

So, having guns all around - open carry - is better for everyone, since guns aren't going away.