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legendary
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October 05, 2015, 01:47:10 PM
A lot of people have pointed out that a difference between America and the rest of the western world is how many guns we have. But access to guns does not cause sane people to shoot each other. The germane difference between us and the others is that in America we do not care for the mentally ill. Our care for the insane is to watch their lives fall apart until they become homeless, in jail, or dead from a suicide / spree killing.
Then rather than own up to our role in all this we blame... the gun?


Big Pharma is pushing more pills per second than bullet makers in a month...




And the sad thing about this is, they haven't come up with a pill that closes bullet holes. Of course, all bullet holes stop bleeding after a while.

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October 05, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
Who said anything about a military randomly arresting a country?

You missed the greatest reason why a military does anything. A military does what it is ordered to do by whoever is in control.
Like any good ideologue, you're doing this thing where you hand-wave away the nuances of real life, and hide behind vague language like "control".
What's vague when the sergeant orders the private, and the private carries out the order?


It's obviously not mind-rays and alien technology, so what's the exact story explaining that control?
The president orders the military to do a lot of things, and they are done. What are you? just plain ignorant?


I'll even help you out, E.g.:
some military generals are in a meeting with the political elite, and there's tension because one side wants to cut the weapons budget and put the money elsewhere. After the meeting, the generals then make a secret pact to overthrow those clowns, and there's your coup in progress.

So who's "in control"? Nobody. It's a dynamic situation with negotiations and passing the ball around on the fly.
While you are correct in saying that no human being or group of humans is in control, still the military acts in a very orderly way. And it has objectives that it follows and accomplishes, even though there are often failures. So, how do they stay orderly and follow objectives? Is it by the aliens you talked about?

If people are not in control, who do you think makes you post your silly posts?





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In almost all cases, people in government are there because they like to be in control. Many of these people are control freaks. Usually, they own the military... at least as far as being able to command the military.
And Donald Trump could statistically be a very lucky idiot who got where he is today by a series of lucky accidents. Sounds like you're projecting evilness and malicious intent into the actions of others, when you don't know what makes them tick.
In case you haven't noticed, everybody has evil intent at times, mixed right in with the good.

You talk a lot like a troll, pointing out certain aspects of things, while hiding others that should be obvious to you.





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Control freaks often like more money, usually so that they can get more control. What do they want to control? The people, of course. Why? So that they can tax the people for more money, of course.

If the people don't have guns and the military does, government leaders who control the military can take control whenever they want, via their military.
So goes your theory.
Your theory is that my facts are theory.





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Why don't many of the governments of the world make literal slaves of their nations? Because everybody sees that American gun freedom works. Push the people too hard, and they will get guns, and you will be dead. At the very least, you will lose control.
I realise America is the centre of the universe, but why so modest?
Then you are intending to get your country to ordain gun freedom for all so that you folks can be the center of the universe along with us?





When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery.
Then why does the English language have 2 different words for it?
Now you are being simply silly. Many things have multiple words to describe them. Why do we need "blablahblah" when we already have "silly."





Folks, please pardon my picking on blablahblah. We can tell from the number of his/her/its posts that he/she/it talks a lot. But that's the way it is, isn't it? Those of us who talk a lot usually should be listening to what we say a little, right?

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October 05, 2015, 01:30:47 PM
A lot of people have pointed out that a difference between America and the rest of the western world is how many guns we have. But access to guns does not cause sane people to shoot each other. The germane difference between us and the others is that in America we do not care for the mentally ill. Our care for the insane is to watch their lives fall apart until they become homeless, in jail, or dead from a suicide / spree killing.
Then rather than own up to our role in all this we blame... the gun?


Big Pharma is pushing more pills per second than bullet makers in a month...


legendary
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October 05, 2015, 01:16:28 PM
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The role of ultra-violent body-rending video games, horrific grizzly blood and all gore movies on nightly TV and a debasement of popular American culture at every level has not figured prominently into the president's prolific pronouncements.

Because there is no causation, for fuck's sake. And if there was, the entire human race would have been extinct years ago.
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October 05, 2015, 01:05:01 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 5, 2015
Full contact info at end


Method for Stopping Shooting Rampages Emerges

by Alan Korwin
The Uninvited Ombudsman



Hard evidence -- not doctor theories, news commentary, conjecture, hyperbole, rumor, innuendo or any other proposals -- clearly shows that the only known way to actually stop spree murderers is to shoot them -- or scare them into shooting themselves. Time and again society has found this works.

According to the evidence, every mass murder in recent times has been halted, in the final analysis, by shooting the murderers, or threatening to shoot them, with guns. Members of the press corps continue to debate the subject, despite the evidence. Sources speaking privately say the media consciously reject this fact. In stark contrast, self-defense incidents using guns are suppressed, by news-media policy, and do not appear on the public stage.

An excellent write up about the censorship of firearms used in self defense appears here --
http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/usa-today-ad-campaign-features-armed-heroes

and here --
http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/09/since-usa-today-wont-publish-good-gun-news-author-alan-korwin-publishes-advertorial-of-good-gun-news

Multiple reports of self-defense, accomplished by shooting criminals, appear as paid space in USA Today, which otherwise censors such reports:
http://www.gunlaws.com/TheFirstRespondersReport.htm

Although knowledgeable commentators are still debating the merits of shooting murderers, the visible evidence clearly demonstrates that shooting the perpetrators does take care of the problem. No other solutions have worked.

The only problem identified is the relative slowness of this effective remedy, due mainly to the delay in getting guns to the scene where innocent victims are assaulted. The scenes have virtually always been in supposed "gun-free zones," with posted signs flatly rejected by the perpetrators.

President Barack Hussein Obama, whose middle name is not supposed to be used, went on national TV, twice in the past week, to propose other solutions, which he announced as "politicized." He promised to "continue talking."

Further analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, has determined that background checks, or newly proposed additional background checks, recommended by Mr. Obama and others, would be pointless for people who already own guns, since they already own guns. The best estimates indicate this is about 100 million armed Americans.

And in other analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, waiting periods have no meaning whatsoever for Americans who already own guns, when they go shopping for guns, since they already own guns. That is also 100 million Americans.

Waiting periods have one additional drawback overlooked in mainstream reports. They require the public to trust psychotic individuals who wait five days to get their first gun, to remain calm for the balance of their lives. Somehow, the five-day waiting period doesn't seem like a long enough "cooling off" period, but this has not made it into nightly "news" reports, or the President's commentaries, for reasons that were unclear at press time.

The murderer in Oregon who sparked the recent repetitive debates owned more than a dozen guns, according to early reports, all legally acquired. While Hillary, Mr. Obama and others are still calling for more background checks, they have apparently failed to notice these obvious errors in their plan.

Only new, or "virgin" gun buyers would be affected, most of whom would pass checks anyway, according to leading experts and past experience. The point of adding even more checks, when current checks are not used to take criminals off the streets, was not clear as this report was prepped for release.

"News" commentators have also failed to make this connection, so far, and have repeated the calls from politicians on both sides of the aisle, who are discussing background checks and waiting periods.

The role of ultra-violent body-rending video games, horrific grizzly blood and all gore movies on nightly TV and a debasement of popular American culture at every level has not figured prominently into the president's prolific pronouncements.

The public -- not some famous vilified "the gun lobby" -- rises up loudly to condemn the assault on their fundamental civil and human rights. This is the same 100 million armed Americans mentioned earlier. Some reports suggest it is "only" 80 million armed Americans. The NRA, often cited as "the gun lobby," has only 5 million members.


Counter-Intuitive Man Says:

Referring to murderers as "gun men" is offensive to men, a violation of journalism ethics, due to its biased and prejudicial nature, and sexist.


Calling murderers "gun men" is virtually propaganda against men and firearms.

It denigrates men, it is derogatory, defamatory and it is discriminatory.

What would media and pundits say if a woman was the criminal perpetrator?

The correct terms include murderer, killer, villain, criminal, assailant and perpetrator, without gratuitously singling out gender.

By using the propaganda term "gun man," the media vilifies a tool they frequently demonstrate hatred for, along with men, which agenda-driven political groups seek to demean or belittle. That's simply wrong, and unethical.

Murderers should be called murderers, not gun men. This would help remove the glorification many mass murderers seek, which encourages others to copy their behavior.

By encouraging such behavior, the media shares responsibility for these acts, according to leading national experts, who are speaking out against such behavior in increasing numbers.


Alan Korwin
The Uninvited Ombudsman
Author of ten books on gun law
Publisher, Bloomfield Press


P.S. My previous request to the President, to have him call me for common-sense solutions he is not getting from his side of the aisle, has gone unanswered so far. I patiently await. The ideas coming from the TV set are so off base it is hard to imagine they are actually on the air. Has anyone considered education in the schools yet? Schools are currently an empty hole of ignorance on the subject.
legendary
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October 05, 2015, 09:40:47 AM
A lot of people have pointed out that a difference between America and the rest of the western world is how many guns we have. But access to guns does not cause sane people to shoot each other. The germane difference between us and the others is that in America we do not care for the mentally ill. Our care for the insane is to watch their lives fall apart until they become homeless, in jail, or dead from a suicide / spree killing.
Then rather than own up to our role in all this we blame... the gun?
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October 05, 2015, 08:15:33 AM

When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery.
Then why does the English language have 2 different words for it?



Incidentally, Orwell covered this extensively in his clever satire, 1984, where the dictatorship was trying to purge all unnecessary words from the English language. Nuance? Devil in the details? Fuck that shit, it's all black OR white.


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October 05, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
Who said anything about a military randomly arresting a country?

You missed the greatest reason why a military does anything. A military does what it is ordered to do by whoever is in control.
Like any good ideologue, you're doing this thing where you hand-wave away the nuances of real life, and hide behind vague language like "control". It's obviously not mind-rays and alien technology, so what's the exact story explaining that control?
I'll even help you out, E.g.:
some military generals are in a meeting with the political elite, and there's tension because one side wants to cut the weapons budget and put the money elsewhere. After the meeting, the generals then make a secret pact to overthrow those clowns, and there's your coup in progress.

So who's "in control"? Nobody. It's a dynamic situation with negotiations and passing the ball around on the fly.



When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery.
Then why does the English language have 2 different words for it?

legendary
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October 05, 2015, 06:34:05 AM
Gun control?

You should use 2 hands.

Well that is true. That's how you control a gun xD

One in each hand.    Cheesy
legendary
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October 05, 2015, 06:24:49 AM

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But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.


Except that you are missing the greatest point of all in this. And it isn't really your fault. Because around the world, in countries that have gun control, and the common people who love the gun control, because they have relative peace, have missed it as well.

Here it is in a simple nutshell. The only reason peace abounds in many nations with gun control is, there isn't much gun control in the United States. To say it more bluntly, it is the gun freedom in the U.S. that is causing the peace around the world, and even in nations that have gun control.

How does this work? Like this. If the governments of gun control nations moved their militaries in and made literal slaves of their nations, the people of the U.S. would find out, and the people of the gun control nations that remained free would see it as well.

Everybody would realize that gun control meant slavery, and that gun freedom was the best thing for the people. When this happened, the people of the United States would implement more guns among themselves and friends and relatives than they have now. The U.S. government would NEVER have a chance at gun control outside of a full, militarized take-over... which might even fail.

In addition, the people of the gun control countries would follow the lead, and soon everyone around the world would be swimming in guns. Anti-freedom nations would fall over night. Free nations would become even freer. Peace would abound. The gun control crowd - which is really the slave-making, one-world government crowd - Would have lost any chance that they had to take over the world.

So you see? It is American gun freedom that is keeping the world free!

Smiley

A few questions about your story...
As I said above. It really isn't your fault that you don't understand, unless, of course, you are being paid and you don't really care.


WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
Who said anything about a military randomly arresting a country?

You missed the greatest reason why a military does anything. A military does what it is ordered to do by whoever is in control.

In almost all cases, people in government are there because they like to be in control. Many of these people are control freaks. Usually, they own the military... at least as far as being able to command the military.

Control freaks often like more money, usually so that they can get more control. What do they want to control? The people, of course. Why? So that they can tax the people for more money, of course.

If the people don't have guns and the military does, government leaders who control the military can take control whenever they want, via their military.

Why don't many of the governments of the world make literal slaves of their nations? Because everybody sees that American gun freedom works. Push the people too hard, and they will get guns, and you will be dead. At the very least, you will lose control.


How would they keep their morale above water, knowing that their own families are affected the same way?
What? You never heard of on-base family life?


When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery. It is part of the reason that Americans are making and buying more guns than ever. Even Americans have been lulled by propaganda.

Slavery might work for decades. But it eventually fails when the people find a way to rebel. American gun freedom makes it much harder for slavery to exist.

Take a look at lower Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, and the whole Northwestern area of Africa. slavery abounds there, even though there are laws all over the place that say that slavery is illegal. Two major things that make the slavery possible are, lack of communications so that the people don't understand freedom and how available it is to them, and guns in the hands of the common people.


There have been plenty of coup d'etat over the years, so what stopped all the amazing freedom from happening? Is it just that none of them sent a clear enough message that the nation turned to shit precisely *because* of the population being unarmed, and had nothing to do with the charismatic psycho cult leader?

World nation leaders will play on every advantage that they can to take and keep control. People always want freedom, but they want freedom from their mistakes as well. The thing that the people often don't realize is that their leader control-freaks are simply shrewdies who are out to get whatever they can in any way that they can. This dulls them to the notion that they should keep personal armament around, because their leaders seem so peaceful.

You might be honest in the extreme. If you are, you may not understand what it is like to be just the opposite. How does a leader get to be such without violence? By being very shrewd, giving the people the peace and freedom that they want, until just the right moment when he can pounce. What keeps him from pouncing? Guns among the people, and the knowledge that they will use them if necessary.

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October 05, 2015, 02:14:07 AM
Gun control?

You should use 2 hands.

Well that is true. That's how you control a gun xD
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October 04, 2015, 07:30:08 PM
about gun free zone, look at the so called "free speech zone"...

of course when they don't have arguments they silent those having some... A2 just make this process more costly.

What do Stalin, Hitler, Mao and all democidist have in common? take the guns away, then wipe.

moreover my argument about the baker was badly written:

you can't steal the bread, fuck the wife of the baker, rape his daughter, steal his money and expecting to byed by "we welcome your visit in the bakery and hope to see your really soon again, have a great day".

my favorite story about gun is this one:

a thief enters your bakery, you have no gun, he is armed : you lose
a thief enters your bakery, you have a gun, he is armed : the fight begin
a thief enters your bakery, you have a gun, he is unarmed : hehehe.

sometime the reaction time of the police is too slow.

furthermore it's like removing a sword to a yemeni, to integrated part of the culture...

for now obamacare is FAILURE... but still only a few months to salvage it (I don't think it's possible).

as the Potus told me : I am a single voter issue (aka I get fucked from all side, trying to achieve a single issue) aka A9, the right to have a pet is effectively in the constitution, like the right to use every plant without doing any harm to anyone.

bitcointalk.org is the only forum that I found on the internet that doesn't practice censorship (one of the last centralized (serverized) place)... then it's the darknet.

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October 04, 2015, 07:01:13 PM



Trump: The Problem Isn’t Guns


GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump said in an interview broadcast Sunday morning that the U.S. cities with the strongest gun laws often have the biggest problems, saying gun violence will happen “no matter what you do.”

“You take Chicago, you take Baltimore, you take various other places where you have tremendous gun violence and death,” Trump said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “The strictest laws in the United States– in the world– for guns happens to be Chicago where they have a lot of problems. Baltimore, a lot of the places where you have the biggest problem is where they have the strongest laws.”

“I don’t think it’s about laws,” Trump said during a gun control discussion in the wake of a mass shooting at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore. that left nine people dead.

“The strongest, the most stringent laws are in almost every case the worse places. It doesn’t seem to work. It’s a tough situation,” Trump added. “And when it comes to the schools, it really is mental health. It’s a mental problem.”


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/255864-trump-cities-with-strongest-gun-laws-have-biggest


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October 04, 2015, 06:43:20 PM
I am so happy that these UT students have found a solution to the problem that happened to them before.  With their "Gun Free Zone" it will obviously never happen again because people like Whitman will see the Gun Free Zone Signs and go somewhere else.

In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and mother in their homes. Later that day, he brought a number of guns, including rifles, a shotgun, and handguns, to the campus of the University of Texas at Austin where, over an approximate 90 to 95 minute period, he killed 14 people and wounded 32 others in a mass shooting in and around the Tower. Whitman shot and killed three people inside the university's tower and eleven others after firing at random from the 28th-floor observation deck of the Main Building.


The gun control crowd + sjw = anti 1st Amendment movement. They need to kill the 2nd first, but the 1st is their ultimate goal.


legendary
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October 04, 2015, 06:36:32 PM
I am so happy that these UT students have found a solution to the problem that happened to them before.  With their "Gun Free Zone" it will obviously never happen again because people like Whitman will see the Gun Free Zone Signs and go somewhere else.

In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and mother in their homes. Later that day, he brought a number of guns, including rifles, a shotgun, and handguns, to the campus of the University of Texas at Austin where, over an approximate 90 to 95 minute period, he killed 14 people and wounded 32 others in a mass shooting in and around the Tower. Whitman shot and killed three people inside the university's tower and eleven others after firing at random from the 28th-floor observation deck of the Main Building.

PS.

Because of the recent discussion about psychoactive drugs and mass murderers I add an addendum.

Whitman had been prescribed Valium, but in addition he had a brain tumor that may have pressed against the amygdala region.  It is impossible to prove that the tumor was the cause of his actions, but it is certainly plausible.  Hence in this particular case the man when to docs and a shrink because we was worried about an increasing violent nature, and they prescribed Valium. 

So where is the cause and the effect?
legendary
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October 04, 2015, 06:17:29 PM
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you can't have the cake, fuck the wife of the backer and keep the change.
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Is that in the Constitution?  Where?  I gotta find out more about this one.
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October 04, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
the FOUNDERS and all SIGNATORIES ARE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE THAT LIVED ON EARTH.

by their first words : WE THE PEOPLE

they opened everything.

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

This guy is just WOOOWWW : Thomas Jefferson ! Man Insane Smiley. I love it so much.

it's not negociable...

and dear barackites, try to save your obamacare, once the looting is done on this front, I am not sure that it will be kept further... so you may lost all your last days in a completly useless attempt at destroying the C and BoR... while your legacy will be in perils, premium are skyrocketing, health is improving? lol... muppet.

you don't want to understand how many WE THE PEOPLE fought to have only this little contract. THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF PAPER IS THE STORY OF THE WORLD.

A1 backed by A2. A Gov kept honest by the MIGHT OF ARMS, a Country UNITED by WORDS, words agreed upon those that stay...

you don't like gun culture, you don't like the constitution, the bills of rights, the usa, the free speech... Please LEAVE, and never come back... go see, and then you will BEG to come back.

you can't have the cake, fuck the wife of the backer and keep the change.

guns will stay in this nations

and the criminals, those non law abiding citizens WILL NEVER SURRENDER THEM, as the WE THE PEOPLE, why? it's a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. there are prices to pay to everything.

TRUTH THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH IN THIS WORLD (unless you walk with Christ, but it's another story)


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October 04, 2015, 03:16:25 PM

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But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.


Except that you are missing the greatest point of all in this. And it isn't really your fault. Because around the world, in countries that have gun control, and the common people who love the gun control, because they have relative peace, have missed it as well.

Here it is in a simple nutshell. The only reason peace abounds in many nations with gun control is, there isn't much gun control in the United States. To say it more bluntly, it is the gun freedom in the U.S. that is causing the peace around the world, and even in nations that have gun control.

How does this work? Like this. If the governments of gun control nations moved their militaries in and made literal slaves of their nations, the people of the U.S. would find out, and the people of the gun control nations that remained free would see it as well.

Everybody would realize that gun control meant slavery, and that gun freedom was the best thing for the people. When this happened, the people of the United States would implement more guns among themselves and friends and relatives than they have now. The U.S. government would NEVER have a chance at gun control outside of a full, militarized take-over... which might even fail.

In addition, the people of the gun control countries would follow the lead, and soon everyone around the world would be swimming in guns. Anti-freedom nations would fall over night. Free nations would become even freer. Peace would abound. The gun control crowd - which is really the slave-making, one-world government crowd - Would have lost any chance that they had to take over the world.

So you see? It is American gun freedom that is keeping the world free!

Smiley

A few questions about your story...
WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
How would they keep their morale above water, knowing that their own families are affected the same way?
When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
There have been plenty of coup d'etat over the years, so what stopped all the amazing freedom from happening? Is it just that none of them sent a clear enough message that the nation turned to shit precisely *because* of the population being unarmed, and had nothing to do with the charismatic psycho cult leader?
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October 04, 2015, 02:32:40 PM

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But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.


Except that you are missing the greatest point of all in this. And it isn't really your fault. Because around the world, in countries that have gun control, and the common people who love the gun control, because they have relative peace, have missed it as well.

Here it is in a simple nutshell. The only reason peace abounds in many nations with gun control is, there isn't much gun control in the United States. To say it more bluntly, it is the gun freedom in the U.S. that is causing the peace around the world, and even in nations that have gun control.

How does this work? Like this. If the governments of gun control nations moved their militaries in and made literal slaves of their nations, the people of the U.S. would find out, and the people of the gun control nations that remained free would see it as well.

Everybody would realize that gun control meant slavery, and that gun freedom was the best thing for the people. When this happened, the people of the United States would implement more guns among themselves and friends and relatives than they have now. The U.S. government would NEVER have a chance at gun control outside of a full, militarized take-over... which might even fail.

In addition, the people of the gun control countries would follow the lead, and soon everyone around the world would be swimming in guns. Anti-freedom nations would fall over night. Free nations would become even freer. Peace would abound. The gun control crowd - which is really the slave-making, one-world government crowd - Would have lost any chance that they had to take over the world.

So you see? It is American gun freedom that is keeping the world free!

Smiley
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