Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 196. (Read 450551 times)

well, I guess i know your opinion. hehe
Your statement expresses a common misunderstanding about firearms. I have shot for about thirty years and have owned a lot of guns. I still shoot one to three times per week. Pistols, carbines, shotguns, rifles; I practice will all of them. BUT...  despite the belief that guns are for killing, thousands and thousands of us gun owners spend our time shooting pieces of paper with circles on them. I do not kill anything with my target guns except targets, which is what they were designed for.

Hunting is one of the many things that a gun can be used for. Hunting guns are for killing. That may offend someone. But often that person has no problem hiring a guy at a slaughterhouse to slice open the neck of a calf or blow the brains out of a pig with an air compressor. People seem to be ok with violently killing an animal, as long as it was first tortured on a feed-lot.

Then there are the guns specifically for killing people. Most citizens of the planet pay for these guns to be given to their respective military and police efforts. This is socially supported violence against other people. Again, no one seems to want to get their hands dirty. But we do want someone to violently assault certain people. People who think or act differently are historically the main targets.  

Then there is the conceal carry firearm. I am armed everyday with a gun that is for killing, but few who think guns should be banned have any clue about how it all works and the regulations involved. They see things on TV and assume they are legal. In reality the only time one can pull a firearm is To protect your life from an armed person in the act of murdering you, or someone in your immediate presence. If I so much as draw that weapon in public I could go to jail. There are no exceptions to this rule. You can't pull a gun on a thief, or a rapist raping a child in front of you.  

Why even have a need for an army or even lawmen if we live in peace and love? Maybe because not all are for peace, nor all are for respecting rules and laws?


Do you have a need to lock the door of your home?


EDIT: ^^This^^, before my post.

Can you think of a good reason why "lawmen" and "armymen" should automatically be granted the trust to carry weapons while your neighbors should not?  Keep in mind that nationalism is a small step away from racism (referring to armymen), and that lawmen have direct influence upon that which they stand to personally gain.

I can't think of one.  And why do so many people seem to think that banning guns will prohibit criminals from violating the ban in the same ways they already dodge the ban on criminal behaviors?  

No more guns = love and peace?

Why can't you learn the same rules for yourself by yourself? Why can't you trust your hand holding a gun but are willing to trust a stranger payed to protect you?

Trusting oneself is not "given" by anybody. It is a grown up thing you learn...

 

I suppose guns should be banned from everywhere. No guns, extremely less killing, and everybody will leave in peace then. Let only the lawmen, armymen have the guns.

Gun control is only so the government has more power over the people. Politicians almost ALWAYS exploit tradagies (Sandy hook shooting, Charleston shooting) to try and push gun control and it is honestly sick, if people accepted guns and weren't brainwashed into thinking everyone that owned a gun or carried a gun is a mass shooter then that would allow law abiding mentally sane citizens to own weapons to defend themselves and their familys rather than cowering in a closet hoping to god that a policeman will arrive before you get shot by a lunatic inside your house.

Atleast the gun can't be given to all people in our community. I can trust the private contractor with their guns keep our neighborhood, because they have known rules to using it

Not to worry 3to5 years time you be begging for gun laws YOUR GUNS WILL BE GONE SOON
 you have no choice the governments coming to get them
you will be out voted soon
your going to see plenty more massacres and your tv news will report them so much it will knock the american people sick .. then you be crying out to ban guns ;
 THE GOVERNMENTS COMING TO GET YOUR GUNS

The church would know all about being hypocrites. One of the biggest ones themselves.

Pope Francis Questions Whether Weapons Manufacturers Can Call Themselves Christian



TURIN, Italy, June 21 (Reuters) – People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

Francis issued his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry at a rally of thousands of young people at the end of the first day of his trip to the Italian city of Turin.

“If you trust only men you have lost,” he told the young people in a long, rambling talk about war, trust and politics after putting aside his prepared address.





http://www.trust.org/item/20150621183811-et1rd

You bring up a good point about statistics for self defense, when guns are used to prevent crime. There are not reliable numbers for the amount of times guns PREVENTED a crime by being drawn to scare off, stop, or detain criminals. Most of the time one need not even pull the trigger to prevent crime, violence, or murder. Of course the media never talks about this when it happens because it goes counter to the fear and sensationalism they want to sell you. Think about it for a second, who reports to the police that some one TRIED to mug them but instead ended up running away pissing themselves?

We should buy the services of a private contractor with guns to keep our living no/low crime rate area safe for our gated community. We can afford it. Tough luck for the others, beyond our gates...

 

Okay I need to put a bulletproof on my body, so if someday gun will be legalized then I can prepare my self to face all of my enemies with gun on their hands. Btw like I said before, we don't need the gun if we are living in no/low crimes area.

All the guns replaced with force shields  

I think too many people are getting killed with guns. I think we should not sell guns to just anyone. They should be a cop, someone in the military, or something. Well I think just this.

And the real sentence can vary. For example, in Norway, somoene who is sentenced to 25 years will be out in 10 years (Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people is due to be released in 2021, after serving 10 years in jail) . In South Africa, he will be free in less than 4 years (as there is a one-sixth law, meaning that the convict has to spend just 1/6th of the time behind bars).

There was a point in our American History where the government tried to repress dissidents in its population.  They did this through search and seizure without due process, and wanton murder of its citizens.  Those citizens eventually overthrew the tyranny of that government.  If those citizens had been refused the right to bear arms they would have been massacred and we would have a picture of the queen in every bar.

So in answer to your question... we keep the right to bear arms because we remember far too well what it is like to live under a government that may turn on its citizens.

Today our arms are less in the form of flint and powder and more in the terms of primes and curves.  In the end it is all the same.  A government may claim it is abolishing guns to save the innocent, but the symbolism of that in our history runs far far deeper than that.  On the same note a government may repress a citizens rights to cryptography because enemies use secrets, and secrets are bad, but at the same time preventing secrecy only serves to make that government more powerful.

So, in a civilized society do we need guns... No.

In a civilized society do we need secrets... No.

Sad part is... our society is not civilized, and often some of the least civilized are in positions of power.

So you can take my guns... but if that right is ceded, it is only a matter of time before you take my crypto-kit too.

The truly sad part is... I thought, more than twice, of the wisdom of publicly publishing these views knowing all too well, that in the country in which I live, they can very well be used against me.

What a pathetic argument. There is no need to protect your family members from rape by armed invaders, as there is a high chance that the perpetrators will be caught using the DNA evidence. Well.. you try this approach. Don't keep a gun at your home, and let the criminals rape your wife. I am not taking any chances. I'll always keep a gun with me.