What's your opinion of gun control? - page 203.

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 19, 2015, 02:02:15 PM

The UK is possibly the most restrictive country in the world with gun control, not sure. Per capita it has 0.25 gun deaths per 100,000 people. The US has 10.64 per 100,000. That's 40 times more gun deaths.

Yes 40 more gun deaths per capita.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I suggest though you do an Internet search for 'gun control' with the countries Jamaica, Honduras and Columbia. See how the much 'gun control' laws have been enacted in those countries. Jamaica you cannot legally have a gun yet it has a per capita homicide by gun rate of 40/100,000. That is four times greater per capita than the United States.

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i think gun control is very important..

if you cant hit what you are shooting at, why bother?

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I'm all in favor of gun rights for all home owners and business owners, because you should be able to defend your property. Only your property though, I don't think you should be allowed to carry when you go shopping in the high street.

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 19, 2015, 02:02:15 PM

The UK is possibly the most restrictive country in the world with gun control, not sure. Per capita it has 0.25 gun deaths per 100,000 people. The US has 10.64 per 100,000. That's 40 times more gun deaths.

You can give me all the 'personal protection' 'criminals will get guns anyway' 'people will find other ways to kill themselves' shit you like. When American gun deaths are 40 times lower I'll be prepared to listen to that.

Ok, there is more gun deaths, but what about crime in general?
In the UK there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people. …The US has a violent crime rate of 466 [violent] crimes per 100,000 residents
That is almost 5 times more crime than the USA!

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Because if a criminal wants a gun they are going to get it, law or no law. If the criminal has a gun I want one too.

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The UK is possibly the most restrictive country in the world with gun control, not sure. Per capita it has 0.25 gun deaths per 100,000 people. The US has 10.64 per 100,000. That's 40 times more gun deaths.

You can give me all the 'personal protection' 'criminals will get guns anyway' 'people will find other ways to kill themselves' shit you like. When American gun deaths are 40 times lower I'll be prepared to listen to that.

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Quote from: Anony on June 19, 2015, 12:33:01 PM

Quote from: tiggytomb on June 19, 2015, 12:16:14 PM

Not based in the US, it seems to me that all these mass shootings tend to happen in places where there is gun control. I think it is quite obvious, if someone is going to rob you or your home or try to shoot up a place they will probably do this in a place they know there are no guns for people to defend themselves and stop these things after the first shot.

people stab people are we going to ban cutlery?

I have not been affected by guns so this is just my opinion from the outside.

Can children keep guns and carry it to school? Can law abiding citizens carry the guns to malls? What if you are on streets and suddenly someone starts shooting? These are the most cases happening in America that whole world is watching.

I think sometimes video games could affected children mind and the children feel that would be great if they can do that in real life. imo we need focus to the point why the shooters did that, not blame to the stuff that used by them. If they want to rob people, so it will be also happened with the knife in their hand.

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honest citizens would be defenseless against the criminals that are still getting all the guns they want.

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Quote from: Anony on June 19, 2015, 12:33:01 PM

Quote from: tiggytomb on June 19, 2015, 12:16:14 PM

Not based in the US, it seems to me that all these mass shootings tend to happen in places where there is gun control. I think it is quite obvious, if someone is going to rob you or your home or try to shoot up a place they will probably do this in a place they know there are no guns for people to defend themselves and stop these things after the first shot.

people stab people are we going to ban cutlery?

I have not been affected by guns so this is just my opinion from the outside.

Can children keep guns and carry it to school? Can law abiding citizens carry the guns to malls? What if you are on streets and suddenly someone starts shooting? These are the most cases happening in America that whole world is watching.

most of the shootings were done with hunting rifles or shot guns. In almost all of the cases the person had the guns illegally, so no law would have stopped them anyway

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Everyone should have guns. You never know when the zombie apocalypse will happen.

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Violence is what should concern people not the tool used in the violence. Yes ban guns and shootings decrease but violence not

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Quote from: tiggytomb on June 19, 2015, 12:16:14 PM

Not based in the US, it seems to me that all these mass shootings tend to happen in places where there is gun control. I think it is quite obvious, if someone is going to rob you or your home or try to shoot up a place they will probably do this in a place they know there are no guns for people to defend themselves and stop these things after the first shot.

people stab people are we going to ban cutlery?

I have not been affected by guns so this is just my opinion from the outside.

Can children keep guns and carry it to school? Can law abiding citizens carry the guns to malls? What if you are on streets and suddenly someone starts shooting? These are the most cases happening in America that whole world is watching.

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Not based in the US, it seems to me that all these mass shootings tend to happen in places where there is gun control. I think it is quite obvious, if someone is going to rob you or your home or try to shoot up a place they will probably do this in a place they know there are no guns for people to defend themselves and stop these things after the first shot.

people stab people are we going to ban cutlery?

I have not been affected by guns so this is just my opinion from the outside.

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Everyone should be able to carry as long as they don't have mental illness or are a criminal. Its proven that you are safer if you carry a gun, you can prevent crimes.

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.

I think the villains that using gun are people that know how to use gun. It just depend on what the purpose of them to have a gun. Sometimes if you feel be threatened by bad people, so you need a stuff that avoid you from that situation, and imo the best way is use gun. You don't need to put your bullet into your gun, just pointed and I guess the people won't disturb you again.

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Quote from: NUFCrichard on June 19, 2015, 08:39:19 AM

The guy was/is a lunatic and it is dreadful that he managed to get a weapon. I would prefer that he wasn't able to get a gun, instead of giving lots of people guns to shoot each other in this kind of case (I doubt it would have made a difference as it was a Political Youth camp he attacked, probably not somewhere where people would be armed anyway)

This is why I have been saying all along that the gun controls affect only the law-abiding population. Even in a low-crime country such as Norway, the perpetrator was able to procure fire-arms without much difficulty.

And you should remember that policemen were present on the Utøya island at the time of the attacks. But even they were not armed, and as a result Breivik had a free run, to kill anyone as he liked.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2015, 05:10:26 AM

Quote from: NUFCrichard on June 19, 2015, 04:15:24 AM

I am a European. I cannot understand why Americans want to have so many people owning guns.

The biggest massacre involving guns happened in Europe. It occurred in a country, which is having one of the toughest gun control laws (Norway) in the world. A lunatic called Anders Behring Breivik was single-handedly able to mow down a total of 77 people, and the policemen present at the scene could not do anything, as they were not armed.

Ok the biggest might have been in Europe, but the frequency and total number killed is much higher in the US than all of Europe combined.

It wasn't that the police present couldn't do anything, he had set off a bomb in the capital city to throw the police off, then he attacked the children on an island that couldn't be quickly reached.
The guy was/is a lunatic and it is dreadful that he managed to get a weapon. I would prefer that he wasn't able to get a gun, instead of giving lots of people guns to shoot each other in this kind of case (I doubt it would have made a difference as it was a Political Youth camp he attacked, probably not somewhere where people would be armed anyway)

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I think people just want to have the right of owning guns rather than actually owning them just to make them feel they are in total control. Sadly, freedom is a self exercised myth.

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Gun control in many countries may also be why the women are more oppressed than in the US.

Guns are the great equalizer.

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

I think gun control is necessary. You never know who will go mad and start shooting people. Lot of killings going on these days, something has to be done about it. You cannot just hope that no one else will go insane.

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