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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 05:01:14 PM

In addition, there are only a very few semi-auto, military grade weapons in the hands of the public right now. Nobody is suggesting that we start selling them on street corners. First, considering where the public is at regarding weapons, get simple, standard weapons into peoples' hands. Let everybody get used to the idea of these weapons being carried openly by anyone everywhere. Then after 3-5 years, after folks get used to seeing and handling guns, move up to the, not semi-auto, but full auto.

The whole 'semi-auto' thing is an absurd charade and it gives the game away.  Most modern weapons are 'semi-auto'.  If these scum can conflate 'semi-auto' with something which means anything, and can tuck it away in their volumes of regulation, they will use it to take advantage of the general ignorance among the uninformed population.  Similarly the nebulous term 'military grade.'

It's pretty obvious to all that 'they' plan to get rid of all weapons as soon as they can.  Probably it's been posted here already, but:

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You just have to take that sort of moderate "We just wanna have common sense legislation so that our children are safe!"  You say shit like that, and people will buy into it.
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsZulVQ6N9Y


And while I was looking for the above, I found  this widely viewed one about the 'gunshow loophole' and other propaganda:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEihkjKNhN8

sr. member
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February 28, 2018, 04:44:01 PM
Gun control is good idea. Buying and keeping gun is big responsiblity and in many countries people just not ready for it. We should learn more about it.
legendary
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February 28, 2018, 04:32:55 PM

I really dont see the need for semi automatic military grade weapons in the publics hands.

They tend to be the most refined and developed pieces of equipement for a variety of reasons.  Just like 'street' donercycles which borrowed heavily from the racing world and are a blast to own and ride.  High-end motorcycles are way to much fun and way to dangerious for a person like me so I gave them up.  My guns are vastly more safe.



In addition, there are only a very few semi-auto, military grade weapons in the hands of the public right now. Nobody is suggesting that we start selling them on street corners. First, considering where the public is at regarding weapons, get simple, standard weapons into peoples' hands. Let everybody get used to the idea of these weapons being carried openly by anyone everywhere. Then after 3-5 years, after folks get used to seeing and handling guns, move up to the, not semi-auto, but full auto.

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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 04:22:45 PM

I really dont see the need for semi automatic military grade weapons in the publics hands.

They tend to be the most refined and developed pieces of equipement for a variety of reasons.  Just like 'street' donercycles which borrowed heavily from the racing world and are a blast to own and ride.  High-end motorcycles are way to much fun and way to dangerious for a person like me so I gave them up.  My guns are vastly more safe.

newbie
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February 28, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
I really dont see the need for semi automatic military grade weapons in the publics hands.
legendary
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February 28, 2018, 11:43:23 AM
Google Searches For "Buy a Gun" Hit All Time High





Google searches for "buy a gun" have hit an all time high as interest in purchasing firearms dramatically increases in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting.

Expecting new restrictions on guns and ammunition, anecdotal evidence suggests the AR-15 semi-automatic weapon is becoming popular once again following a lull in interest after Trump's election.

Google searches for "AR-15" are at their highest since just after the Sandy Hook massacre over five years ago.

However, the more generic term "buy a gun" just hit its highest level ever, with incomplete data suggesting it could be an even more popular query than it was just after Sandy Hook.


Read more at https://www.prisonplanet.com/google-searches-for-buy-a-gun-hit-all-time-high.html.


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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
CNN Finally Notices Schools in Texas That Already Arm Teachers





In a report aired on Friday's New Day and again on Saturday's CNN Newsroom with Fredricka Whitfield, CNN correspondent Ed Lavandera actually gave attention to a school district in Texas that already arms its teachers with concealed weapons and has them train in case they need to defend the school.

On New Day, CNN hosts Alisyn Camerota and John Berman seemed skeptical after the report because the teachers had not yet had a chance to demonstrate that they could defend the school successfully a the pair failed to note that the fact that they have not been attacked yet could be evidence of deterrence.


Read more at https://www.prisonplanet.com/cnn-finally-notices-schools-in-texas-that-already-arm-teachers.html.


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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 11:36:57 AM
This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns





The unanimous decision came after the board heard concerns about school safety from teachers, parents and administrators during a town hall meeting at Pike County Central High School. The discussion was prompted by multiple school shootings in recent weeks, including one at Marshall County High School in Western Kentucky that left two dead and another in Florida that left 17 dead.

The motion authorizes the school board's attorney to work with the Pike County Sheriff's Office, which would oversee the program, to finalize a formal policy for the school board to consider.

Pike County Schools Superintendent Reed Adkins said he hopes the board will give final approval within two to three weeks, and to have armed staff in schools by fall, if not sooner.


Read more and click the links at http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article202341909.html.


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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 02:26:06 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.

That means that you are ignorant about the guns. Guns are not made for the purpose of killing someone. The main purpose of someone owning a gun is to defend against the criminals. The media always highlight the number of people who die from gun shots. But they never mentions about those who escaped from death as a result of gun ownership.

Even that is not necessarily true.  Most of the guns I own are used primarily for dealing with unwanted wild animals, but I also need to be able to kill domestic animals which may be sick or injured.  It's part of being a responsible person in my environment.  Many rural living people around the world have similar needs/responsibilities, and rifles are pretty common for this reason.

That said, at least one of the guns I have is specifically for defence against criminals, and I've bought guns for several female family members for self-defence purposes.  It is not at all uncommon for there to be meth-heads looking around for stuff to steal in my area.  It's happened several times already this year!  This meth-head contingent try to avoid encounters with homeowners (since most households have guns) but they mis-calculate sometimes and there is the ever-present possibility of totally insane and/or suicidal one (or group of them) coming along.  Fortunately meth tends to make a person highly paranoid and one can use this ton one's advantage.

If the gun control freaks have their way, then you will be left without any guns. They can rise several arguments in their favor, including accusation that you are harming the wildlife. Also, they can argue that women should carry pepper spray rather than pistols (but from my experience I can say that they are ineffective when compared to guns).
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 11:13:23 PM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.

That means that you are ignorant about the guns. Guns are not made for the purpose of killing someone. The main purpose of someone owning a gun is to defend against the criminals. The media always highlight the number of people who die from gun shots. But they never mentions about those who escaped from death as a result of gun ownership.

Even that is not necessarily true.  Most of the guns I own are used primarily for dealing with unwanted wild animals, but I also need to be able to kill domestic animals which may be sick or injured.  It's part of being a responsible person in my environment.  Many rural living people around the world have similar needs/responsibilities, and rifles are pretty common for this reason.

That said, at least one of the guns I have is specifically for defence against criminals, and I've bought guns for several female family members for self-defence purposes.  It is not at all uncommon for there to be meth-heads looking around for stuff to steal in my area.  It's happened several times already this year!  This meth-head contingent try to avoid encounters with homeowners (since most households have guns) but they mis-calculate sometimes and there is the ever-present possibility of totally insane and/or suicidal one (or group of them) coming along.  Fortunately meth tends to make a person highly paranoid and one can use this ton one's advantage.

legendary
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February 27, 2018, 10:54:15 PM
Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.

That means that you are ignorant about the guns. Guns are not made for the purpose of killing someone. The main purpose of someone owning a gun is to defend against the criminals. The media always highlight the number of people who die from gun shots. But they never mentions about those who escaped from death as a result of gun ownership.
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 09:25:54 PM
Why would anyone be against gun control? Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill. Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers)as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.

Look at how easily young people get access to guns. This combined with an unhealthy approach to conflict resolution is what causes so many people to be killed by gunshot wounds.

Actually, teachers in schools, wearing guns to protect the kids, isn't enough. They need to pick out mature and responsible kids from grade 7 on up, and train them in gun etiquette, and have them wear guns in school, just to help the teachers.

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legendary
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February 27, 2018, 08:43:34 PM
Here's a thought on the war on our constitutional rights here in the U.S..  Call it a hypothesis to just match against obsevations:

The U.S. 20 trillion in debt.  That figure is rapidly growing and showing no signs of slowing down,  'We' are going to default on 'our' debts.  It's pretty inevitable.

Some courts (maybe U.S., maybe some TPP-like tribunal of multi-national corporate interests, maybe something else) is going to decide the terms of 'our' default settlement.  We citizens who own property here in the U.S. and the people who hold U.S. debt instruments are probably going to have very different ideas about what is fair since a lot of 'private property' very well could be considered part of the balance sheet.

People who are 'good with money' know various tricks.  One of them is how to buy junk debt for pennies on the dollar then obtain some muscle in to help collect.  The amount of muscle needed and the cost of commissioning this service will be a LOT more if the pissed off target population is armed.`

There is one ethnic group who were over-represented in both starting the Bolshevik revolution and making bank to become the 'oligarchs' 80 years later when the Soviet Union fell apart.  They are widely considered to be 'good with money.'  Interestingly it is this same ethnic group who are over-represented here in the U.S. in supplying politicians and 'activists' to focus on getting rid of our pesky 2nd amendment.

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BTW, I note Ivanka Trump in an above post.  The woman and her handlers have the intention of her becoming POTUS in the future.  She a member of a part-cult, part religious fundamentalist group, part white-collar crime syndicate, part ethic supremacist group called Chabad-Lubavitch.  They are in the news about being all over the Florida (supposed) shooting deal which happened lately (if you know what news to read, and Israeli news papers are well worth scanning.)  Don't trust the woman.  She'll take your guns in a heartbeat when she gets the chance...unless you are an Israeli settler in which case she'll take my tax money to buy you an AR-15.  I'd bet money on it.

newbie
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February 27, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
Gun control solution depends on country. Because there are different cultural features and social features. IMO guns should be banned, shockers do their job good))
newbie
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February 27, 2018, 04:27:32 PM
Why would anyone be against gun control? Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill. Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers)as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.

Look at how easily young people get access to guns. This combined with an unhealthy approach to conflict resolution is what causes so many people to be killed by gunshot wounds.
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
"Yes, Virginia, You Can Own A Machine Gun"





…and Gun Facts For The Newly Uninformed

For those of you who are new to the public debate about All Things Guns that has sprung up since the Parkland, FL tragedy, this brief primer is for you whether you are a mommy, daddy, guardian or teacher of school-age children. Most of all, if you are a politician or reporter, this one has your name on it.

A basic Google search for "guns" returns 299,000,000 results in 0.52 seconds. So why another gun article? The cacophony of stultifying idiocy polluting media outlets via the Evening News, talk radio "commentary", wasting untold newsprint and bandwidth demands it. Never has the old saw, "He only knows enough to be dangerous" been more evident than in the blatherings of those who have swallowed whole the mistruths, half-truths and outright lies on everything from "firearm terminology" to the "gun show loophole." Indeed, many of the spouting pundits hosing audiences with their indubitable certitude are motivated by an evil political agenda that has been marinated in decades of gun grabbing propaganda, fear mongering elitism. And worse. (See MSDNC's "Morning Joe")

Sadly, strewing scary stuff stifles any rational discussion about guns. Anti-gun groups are using "NRA!" as the new pejorative replacing "RACIST!" as their trump card to shut down dangerously productive conversations. Claiming "we need a public debate about guns" really means "STFU and do it my way!"

To navigate this swamp of polluted palaver, here are just a few of the 372 Unadulterated Truths you can memorize and deploy in next big argument at work or Chuck E. Cheese. They are also suitable to Cut 'N Paste or carve into other suitable persuasive materials for more formal situations.

Note: the following assumes the Reader knows the absolute minimum about guns, i.e., they go BANG! propelling a projectile at Warp speed toward whatever lies immediately ahead. This is true of rifles, pistols, and shotguns– also cannons, bazookas, mortars, RPG's and other weapons of destruction,"mass" or otherwise.

Let's get started

First, despite the MSM and members of the phylum "moron" dedication to mislead you, there is no such thing as "gun violence". "Gun violence" is code from the Aggressively Ignorant for "It's not my fault; the gun did it."  As an inanimate object, any firearm is no more intelligent or self-actuating than a rock (an early ancestor). All firearms require some level of participation from a human to function. This phase of the interface, loosely described as "human intelligence", is where problems begin.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/02/brian-wilson/yes-virginia-you-can-own-a-machine-gun/.


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newbie
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February 27, 2018, 06:44:46 AM
Follow uk This is a bad idea because never a weapon to a good did not lead
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 05:33:32 AM
"Never Seen Such A Large Crowd": Record Numbers Flock To Florida Gun Show After Shooting





A record number of firearms enthusiasts made their way to the Florida State Fairgrounds this weekend to attend the Florida Gun Show, amid a fierce national debate over gun rights following the Valentine's Day massacre at Stoneman Douglas high school in Parkland, Florida.

Organizers say almost 7,000 people attended on Saturday, with Sunday's tally expected to be higher. Organizer Steve Fernandez said they've never seen such a large crowd - however it's possible that the cancellation of next month's show in Fort Lauderdale may have attracted concerned citizens.

The line outside the Florida Gun Show is growing by the minute. Yesterday, an estimated 7K people attended, which organizers say was a huge turnout for Tampa @BN9 pic.twitter.com/WTW75lWZmJ.


Read more at https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/never-seen-such-large-crowd-record-numbers-flock-florida-gun-show-after-shooting.


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legendary
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February 27, 2018, 05:21:39 AM
'Having a teacher who is armed, cares deeply about their students and is qualified to bear arms.





Ivanka Trump said on Sunday that her father's proposal of placing firearms in the hands of highly trained teachers is an option worth debating. 

During an interview with NBC News in Pyeongchang, South Korea, Trump was asked if she would be comfortable knowing that a teacher educating one of her three children was in possession of a gun in the classroom.

'To be honest, I don't know,' Trump said. 'Obviously, there would have to be an incredibly high standard for who would be able to bear arms in our school. But I think there is no one solution to creating safety.'

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The President's eldest daughter was asked if she would be advising the commander-in-chief on highly charged gun issues



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 'To be honest, I don't know,' Trump said. 'Obviously, there would have to be an incredibly high standard for who would be able to bear arms in our school'



'I think that having a teacher who is armed... and qualified to bear arms is not a bad idea, but it is an idea that needs to be discussed,' Trump added.


Read more and watch the video at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5434519/Ivanka-Trump-weighs-gun-debate.html.


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legendary
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February 27, 2018, 05:11:37 AM
Ohio Sheriff Offers Free Gun Training To 50 Teachers; Forced To Cap At 300 After Huge Response





An Ohio sheriff who offered free firearms training to 50 teachers was forced to cap his offer at 300, after a flood of local school employees signed up in the wake of a Florida high school shooting that left 17 people dead.

"We put it online, we thought we'd get 20 school teachers maybe. Within 20 minutes we had 40. Within an hour we had 100. Within four hours we had 200. By the next morning, at 300, we cut it off," Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones said on "Fox & Friends."

The Parkland, FL shooting has renewed a national debate on the Second Amendment. Sheriff Jones noted that only a few schools in Ohio allow the concealed carry of a firearm, and that the plan to arm teachers would only work if "the school boards have the guts to make it a reality." Jones suggested that school staffers should go through mandatory firearms training to help them identify the sounds of gunfire.

"We have to do something here because we can't wait for our government to do anything. All they do is fight, they get nothing done," he said.


Read more at https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-25/ohio-sheriff-offers-free-gun-training-50-teachers-forced-cap-300-after-huge.


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