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legendary
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Please give us numbers so we can see for ourselfs and dont need to trust you blindly.

I.e.:
1. Gun related crimes usa
vs
2. Gun related crimes japan

Criminality generally is much lower in Japan for whatever reason.  For this reason it is particularly poor comparison.  Some of the ethnic nationalist types like ramzpaul will claim that ethnic homogeneity is largely responsible the phenomenon.

Japan does seem to lead the U.S. by basically infinity in sarin gas attacks on subways.  When someone is genuinely interested in terrorism we are lucky that guns are an option for them compared to a lot of other methods.  The fact of the matter seems to be that nearly every 'terrorist' act almost anywhere is actually a false flag which allows TPTB to accomplish some project they want to do, or (luckily for us here in the U.S.) a bogus hoax made possible by a consolidated, compliant, and complicit corporate media.

legendary
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Weapons arent produced in an mexican backyard and most terrorist who do mass shootings end up dead by suicide or with the help of the police.

Please get real.

@Tvcbof

Jews are no saints but they arent the devil either.

But guns can be made by anybody who is a bit of a 'smith... even in Mexico.

Cool

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-gun-markets-of-pakistan/56323439453c9ac8045e628c

Most terrorists can't legally be shot by victims at the soft targets they choose ("gun-free zones"), so they have to kill themselves or get the police to do it.

Hm maybe pakistan isnt that bad for a vacation afterall Cheesy
Jokes aside they didnt manufactured weapons there. They are pretty much just renewing ww2 and cold war stuff that was left in afghanistan or somewhere else.

I am against gun control 100%. I think those for gun control are missing the real reason behind crimes with a weapon. And that reason is criminals don’t care about laws. You can make all the laws you want and there will still be crime. Proof of this is countries that ban civilians from possessing a firearm and yet people are still being killed by firearms. Japan for example has very restrictive firearm laws yet criminals there still kill people and rob people with firearms.

The only way to reduce crime is to scare the bejesus out of criminals. Not be all sweet on them. They steal a car they get beat with the caning punishment used in other countries. This is a very painful punishment and imprints their mind that stealing results in extreme pain. Public executions such as hanging should be used and televised.
We need to enforce the laws we have. Its illegal to kill, rob, assault others, etc do those laws prevent that? No. So how is banning weapons going to stop that?
Banning firearms or restricting firearms only disarms the law biding and make them easy prey for criminals.
Example; why do some drunk drivers have over a dozen convictions? Did the law against driving drunk stop them? No! But I would bet you $100 that if you beat the hell out of them with a wooden cane after the 2nd conviction you wouldn’t see as many repeat drunk drivers! And if you executed a drunk driver for killing some one I know they wont be a repeat offender.

So lets get tough on the criminals and help not hinder the public to defend themselves.

Please give us numbers so we can see for ourselfs and dont need to trust you blindly.

I.e.:
1. Gun related crimes usa
vs
2. Gun related crimes japan
member
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I am against gun control 100%. I think those for gun control are missing the real reason behind crimes with a weapon. And that reason is criminals don’t care about laws. You can make all the laws you want and there will still be crime. Proof of this is countries that ban civilians from possessing a firearm and yet people are still being killed by firearms. Japan for example has very restrictive firearm laws yet criminals there still kill people and rob people with firearms.

The only way to reduce crime is to scare the bejesus out of criminals. Not be all sweet on them. They steal a car they get beat with the caning punishment used in other countries. This is a very painful punishment and imprints their mind that stealing results in extreme pain. Public executions such as hanging should be used and televised.
We need to enforce the laws we have. Its illegal to kill, rob, assault others, etc do those laws prevent that? No. So how is banning weapons going to stop that?
Banning firearms or restricting firearms only disarms the law biding and make them easy prey for criminals.
Example; why do some drunk drivers have over a dozen convictions? Did the law against driving drunk stop them? No! But I would bet you $100 that if you beat the hell out of them with a wooden cane after the 2nd conviction you wouldn’t see as many repeat drunk drivers! And if you executed a drunk driver for killing some one I know they wont be a repeat offender.

So lets get tough on the criminals and help not hinder the public to defend themselves.
legendary
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Weapons arent produced in an mexican backyard and most terrorist who do mass shootings end up dead by suicide or with the help of the police.

Please get real.

@Tvcbof

Jews are no saints but they arent the devil either.

But guns can be made by anybody who is a bit of a 'smith... even in Mexico.

Cool

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-gun-markets-of-pakistan/56323439453c9ac8045e628c

Most terrorists can't legally be shot by victims at the soft targets they choose ("gun-free zones"), so they have to kill themselves or get the police to do it.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Weapons arent produced in an mexican backyard and most terrorist who do mass shootings end up dead by suicide or with the help of the police.

Please get real.

@Tvcbof

Jews are no saints but they arent the devil either.

But guns can be made by anybody who is a bit of a 'smith... even in Mexico.

Cool
legendary
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@Tvcbof

Jews are no saints but they arent the devil either.

None of the many I know.  At least to my knowledge.  Just like any group they are obviously all over the map.  My personal experience is that Jews do tend to be unusually interesting and fun to discuss things with.

I will say that those who subscribe to certain ideas in the Babylonian Talmud are pretty damn close to ol' Nick.  That would include Kabbalahists and the many spin-offs from that belief system.  That's what my research points to at least.

I did watch an interesting presentation by one Doreen Dotan recently who seems to be a remarkably forthright person.  She claims to be from a Rabbinical family who regularly married 1st cousins to try to maintain academic achievement.  She says that her family has a lot of smart people and a lot of psychopaths and she figures that there is a relationship in brain function.  According to my own personal theories of neurology I would not rule such a thing out.  Unknown how widespread such a inbreeding structure is (if it's not complete BS from the get-go) but really it would take only a small fraction of a particular group to have a significant impact over time...human society being what it is.

legendary
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Weapons arent produced in an mexican backyard and most terrorist who do mass shootings end up dead by suicide or with the help of the police.

Please get real.

@Tvcbof

Jews are no saints but they arent the devil either.
hero member
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Most guns used for illegal and murder are bought illegally. i know of the gun that uses the fingerprint of the owner to in order to even shoot it. I think gun manufacturers should mass produce this type of gun. It will help reduce gun violence  in the entire world.

Even if there are manufacturers that can do the fingerprint thingy on their guns you have also said that there were  illegal guns of course there could also be an illegal manufacturing of gun in which we cant still identify the owner that also negates on your statement
The fingerprint gives an advantage to the criminal. Such a weapon is not necessary. Nothing will stop the offender as the knowledge that he can get shot in the back. The more weapons will be in the hands of honest citizens the less crime.

That is the problem any honest citizen can also be evil sometimes we are just humans any psychological problem van affect the way this honest citizens like emotional stress can triger to a crime and the more weapons you give to the public the more crime it creates. You have to remember that even those who were properly train can even make mistakes how much more for those who has no training
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if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have them
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Gun control is required. If you let random people to get whatever gun they want, you probably observe lots of murders and Street shootings which are very bad.

Bullshit.

Crooks don't care about gun laws. If anything they like them. That means the honest people are easy pickings.

The Swiss government gives their citizens their own machine gun. Heavily armed country full of gun crime right?

In countries such as Switzerland and Finland, the gun ownership rates are quite high. But even after this, the rate of gun crime is very low. It all depends upon the government regulations and implementation.
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It also depends on what type of people are living there, whether it's disciplined people or people who are going to use guns as weapons to violate every crime possible. Not generalizing or anything. It's about how the government acts upon it, and definitely, it's not going to be easy.
legendary
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West european nations with gun control all have less gun related crimes then the US.
Guns make everything safer right? Roll Eyes

@Switzerland, finnland and every nation similar:

There are 5 million finns and 8 million swiss. The great majority of them has a good education (excellent in relation to the US), is rich, have a stable life and job with good future outlook.
There crime rate is low with or without gun control because their socio economic situation is far superior to that of an avg. US american.
I would rather compare the avg. Us american with a russian or something along the line.

Btw. As far as i know most of the swiss have weapons because of their military duty.
Like in israel the soldiers have to take their weapon (sig 550) home.

From what I can see, the Swiss are some creepy motherfuckers.  That tunnel thing and the goings-on at CERN are weird as fuck, and they don't even try to hide it.  Even though I have a Swiss surname I feel no attachment to the place so I have no respect for people who support Israel just because they are supposedly ethic Jews or whatever.  I've even less respect for the Christian Zionists who follow some televangelist to was paid off by Zionists to brainwash them into support for Israel.

The galling thing is that my tax dollars go to buy M16's for the settlers to help with their ethnic cleansing while Israeli groups try to get them out of American hands.  So claimed Alex Jones recently at least.

I also noticed that the Jewish woman who lost a fake kid at Sandy Hook (Posner) was a Swiss and working for their embassy as they try to dis-arm Americans through a U.N. program.

Interesting that the countries/groups who are reputed to be most associated with global money flows also seem to have a above average propensity to dis-arm others while they are famously armed themselves.  Hmmm.

I do like the Finns, but even here it seems like they are falling victim to some of the pussification and SJW weirdness which afflict other '1st world' nations.

legendary
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West european nations with gun control all have less gun related crimes then the US.
Guns make everything safer right? Roll Eyes


@Switzerland, finnland and every nation similar:

There are 5 million finns and 8 million swiss. The great majority of them has a good education (excellent in relation to the US), is rich, have a stable life and job with good future outlook.
There crime rate is low with or without gun control because their socio economic situation is far superior to that of an avg. US american.
I would rather compare the avg. Us american with a russian or something along the line.


Btw. As far as i know most of the swiss have weapons because of their military duty.
Like in israel the soldiers have to take their weapon (sig 550) home.
legendary
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Gun control is required. If you let random people to get whatever gun they want, you probably observe lots of murders and Street shootings which are very bad.

Bullshit.

Crooks don't care about gun laws. If anything they like them. That means the honest people are easy pickings.

The Swiss government gives their citizens their own machine gun. Heavily armed country full of gun crime right?

In countries such as Switzerland and Finland, the gun ownership rates are quite high. But even after this, the rate of gun crime is very low. It all depends upon the government regulations and implementation.
sr. member
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I think it's very important for everyone to have an opportunity to protect itself. And I really don't understand, why it's not a basic right even in the pretty advanced countries.
Because in these countries the government is not popular and is afraid of its own people. When people demand the resignation of the President (as now in Venezuela) that the police will do if the people would be armed. Nothing. The President will have to leave, and so there is a chance to disperse unarmed people and stay in power.
legendary
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I think it's very important for everyone to have an opportunity to protect itself. And I really don't understand, why it's not a basic right even in the pretty advanced countries.

It's because the people in Government are trying to take away all private property. If they do, they could act as trustees over all property, and use the best of it like it was their own. Guns are simply one of the more important pieces of property to take away from people. So, the fight is there, at guns.

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newbie
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I think it's very important for everyone to have an opportunity to protect itself. And I really don't understand, why it's not a basic right even in the pretty advanced countries.
legendary
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Gun control is required. If you let random people to get whatever gun they want, you probably observe lots of murders and Street shootings which are very bad.

Bullshit.

Crooks don't care about gun laws. If anything they like them. That means the honest people are easy pickings.

The Swiss government gives their citizens their own machine gun. Heavily armed country full of gun crime right?



legendary
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You propose to deprive a person of the right to protection of his life because of infringements of rules of storage of weapons? It is not correct. If you eat at the wheel and broke the rules. You could also cause an accident and possibly even someone's death but this is not denied a license for driving for life.
You don't get it. Nobody is depriving him of anything. He decided to own guns without obtaining a license, in a country where guns are largely banned. That's one thing, and we could argue if he should or shouldn't do it. I think he shouldn't, due to the repercussions if he ever had to use these weapons, but I wasn't talking about it in my previous post.
What I was talking about was the situation of leaving unregistered weapons (more than 1!) in a car.
legendary
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For me, it is necessary to control Guns because it is intended to use for killing so must use it in proper way... But sadly many people are using for personal purposes like for their enemies even though their guns are without liscense...

The guns without a license, i.e illegal guns doesn't come within the scope of gun control. Because they are illegal anyway. Even if the government introduce tough gun control laws, the spread of these illegal weapons won't get affected.
sr. member
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Any weapon without a license is a potential threat to human life. Every legal barrel you can monitor on the pool liner. If a person has an illegal weapon that he subconsciously hoped that it will not find. This may encourage to commit crimes.

some uses illegal guns or we should say without licensed guns to protect their selves. they dont usually use it thats why they dont get licensed their guns. or some just have expired licensed. or maybe they just dont want to dispose their guns thats why they have it untill then.
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