Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 74. (Read 450482 times)

First off, I am all for guns. I believe strongly in hunting and defence of home.
But I dont agree with taking someone's right to bear arms simply because they have committed a crime; but if they have committed a violent crime (esp on with a gun), that's a different thing. With that being said, we shouldn't be able to get assault rifles as citizens. Long guns and pistols are fine. All you should need to defend yourself if everyone else only has the same. Military hardware is just that, for the military. You should need special training, but, with that being said, you are subject to enhanced ATF investigation when you apply to receive a weapon of this sort (complete background check).

But that doesn't seem to be enough, so far 

My position is simple people have the right of self defense so they must be allowed to have weapons but if a persons has mental problems or has been on jail for violent crimes then that right must be taken away from them the same way your right of freedom is taken away when you violate the law.

You are just as biased as the poster before you.

And let me show you. Vast majority of the so called refugees dont even come from countries that are at war. Syrians make less than third of them, even though you can buy syrian passport on marketplace in places like Istanbul or Athens for 20 euro. Home countries like Nigeria, Afghanistan and Morocco refuse to take these "youths" back and they know why. Problematic young men are taken care off by well to do foreigners. For the young men it is investition.

Yes, getting to Europe is expensive, sure. Wouldnt you move to place where you would be guaranteed decent living without having to worry about finding a job? For years? Of the one million people Germany welcomed in 2015, only 40 thousand are employed. Despite government and NGO subsidies. Spit in your welcoming face.

It is not fleeing. It is an investion for asylum seekers. And business for NGOs.

I am not even going into the fact, that women and children of asylum seekers are debased and sometimes raped by other male refugees on daily basis. In refugees camps in Europe. Under supervision of government officials and NGO activists. It is ugly, but ultimately logical side effect of this giant human trafficking scheme.

Already done. It's just that Germany decided to also welcome men. But women and children have the first resource allocations.

It's not 90% males more 75%

And you've got a rather SIMPLE explanation if you take 12 seconds to think... Coming to Europe costs all they have for 1 ticket. Families split up, the family goes in the countryside and the yougest and strongest male goes to Europe to find a job and money to bring back the family.
You jsut have to ask any lonely male migrant and they answer you the same thing.
"why didn't you bring your family?"
"we didn't have the money, only one could go"
"why you?"
"because I can work, I can work to bring family back"

xD
They're traitors!
I mean why don't they fight our bombers and our soldiers? Hmm?
Yeah we attacked them without any reason but they should still fight with their ak47 against our tanks!
Weaklings

Yes they shoot with legal weapons also. And with guns so easy available to all, its hard to control illegal weapons. What's the problem if you sell your legal weapon on black market, scratch all serial numbers and report it stolen or lost?

This whole situation is artificially creating, to a strain to Europe and she had her personal problems and not just others. It's a sensible course of some intelligent politicians.

In fact of the matter is that for a crime to buy illegal weapons on the black market. With registered no one shoots.

The weapon in his pocket should give a sense of security assurance, rather than permissive.,

People have the right to have a gun to protect himself.

I feel that gun control is something that gun owners must face, but not to the degree of some cities like Chicago that have the strictest gun laws in the country and still have an insane amount of murders every year, which is absolutely disgusting to see. Legislators have to notice that even when you have strict gun laws, people who want guns just aren't going to follow them and will just figure out a way to buy them illegally.

The only group of people who are really hurt from this are the people who want to protect themselves, they have a hard time getting guns when they're just trying to protect their lives and their families lives.

But I must say, certain issues such as not allowing people who have mental illness to have guns are something that I support, but I guess putting down the line on what a mental illness is a tough one.

That was already debunked a year ago. But you might want to tweet that to trump. Maybe he will say that on the next white house press conference lol

Germany made mistake, now they also realize it. Rapefugees are lovely people when you meet them alone, but when they hoard up, then the trouble comes. I dont mind immigrants, but there should be some order, if they dont adapt to laws and culture, send them back where they came from. They didnt run away from war (most male immigrants, not all), they are so called economy immigrants, they saw oportunity to flee poverty, expecting to live better in Europe doing nothing, just collecting social welfare.

After it'll be banned the people will always find a new ways to "defend" themselfs

While I agree with you that Americans are not stupid, they are blind in some areas. One of them has to do with any attempts to be No. 1 in the world. Being No. 1 doesn't have anything to do with the idea of being No. 1. In fact, it is just the opposite.

What I mean is this. America didn't become No. 1 because they were trying to be that way. Rather, they became No. 1 by not caring about status. At the same time they offered the idea of not caring about status to everybody. That's what it means when the Declaration of Independence states that all men (people) are created equal.

The thing that I was talking about in my previous post is that Government seems to have forgotten this. And the reason they can get away with it is because the people have forgotten.

How can Government people enforce traffic fines when there is no harm or damage or even threat of harm or damage involved? Government people are more than equal when they do this kind of enforcing. But it is only because the people are too stupid to see that all they have to do is apply the 9th Amendment the right way in front of the right jury to bypass this problem. And then all they need to do is apply hardship to the case to get paid for being stopped and threatened by Government.

Of course, for everyone who likes being taxed and threatened by Government in multitudes of ways, they wouldn't use their rights. But most people don't even understand that they have such rights.

Americans are not stupid. They just tend to live in their own world. While the whole world respects the view of America and adopted their rules of the game. Now circumstances have changed. To remain the world No. 1 Americans need to prove it, but it seems to me that they were not ready.

Most modern Americans are kinda dumb when it comes to Constitutional stuff. They have barely made it to the 2nd Amendment. If they had made it all the way to the 9th Amendment, they would see ...
In other words, we have all the rights we always had, as individuals. We have the right to smoke pot. We have the right to carry guns. We have the right to do anything else.

People who want the government have a right to the Government. People who don't like the Government, have the right to not be affected by it. The jury as stated by the 6th and 7th Amendments can make this effective in every case.

Americans like guns. But Americans are too dumb to put their Government down in any other way, even though the process is spelled out right in Government.

The most intelligent of the right to arms were Americans. They made the right to arms in the 2nd amendment of the Constitution. Changes to the Constitution very difficult for the government. Almost all countries have a right to arms spelled out in the law, and the law can easily change

The danger of even limited gun control always is that the people will become lax in their vigilance. Then government will extend its control, and the people may wind up without guns. Then Government will take over formally.

The vigilance part is why we have this thread in this forum.

I'm not afraid that people have a right to weapons. I have weapons and I never used. You will fear me. It is very rare for crimes are legal guns In countries such as Moldova and the Baltic States after the legalization, the crime rate has decreased in two times.