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legendary
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January 04, 2017, 06:44:38 PM
so when actually people with guns decide to do something?
usa the land of criminals for the last 100 years?  Undecided

Actually, Australia was the land of the criminals.
The USA was the land of the religious wackos -  and its been more like 397 years.   Cheesy
legendary
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January 04, 2017, 06:08:10 PM
so when actually people with guns decide to do something?
usa the land of criminals for the last 100 years?  Undecided
legendary
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January 04, 2017, 06:03:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/q6sJpTH.jpg

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?




There should be a gun control.
However, even the country has the most strict laws in owning a gun and yet they can't eliminate the illegal guns it's useless.
People will always seek to have a weapon. Men guns always attracts in all countries. The more bans in the country, the more illegal weapons in the hands. We know that the killer always use illegal guns. Why increase the number of illegal weapons?


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hero member
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January 04, 2017, 03:00:36 PM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?




There should be a gun control.
However, even the country has the most strict laws in owning a gun and yet they can't eliminate the illegal guns it's useless.
People will always seek to have a weapon. Men guns always attracts in all countries. The more bans in the country, the more illegal weapons in the hands. We know that the killer always use illegal guns. Why increase the number of illegal weapons?
full member
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January 04, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
In as much as every citizens has the right to protect themselves, I think more of this is the responsibility of government in the protection of life and property and by so doing, I would say gun control should be absolute because the harm it has done is more than what the founding fathers had in mind when the law was promulgated and come to think of it, has it even reduce crime to a large extent because if that cannot be established then the whole purpose of guns in the hands of civilians has been greatly defeated.

And you thought about the fact why in Europe a lot of attacks, but in America they are much smaller? I think that in the first place is due to the fact that in America, a lot of weapons on hand, and in Europe, very strict gun laws.
sr. member
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January 04, 2017, 07:18:44 AM
In as much as every citizens has the right to protect themselves, I think more of this is the responsibility of government in the protection of life and property and by so doing, I would say gun control should be absolute because the harm it has done is more than what the founding fathers had in mind when the law was promulgated and come to think of it, has it even reduce crime to a large extent because if that cannot be established then the whole purpose of guns in the hands of civilians has been greatly defeated.
sr. member
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January 04, 2017, 06:35:36 AM
In as much as every citizens has the right to protect themselves, I think more of this is the responsibility of government in the protection of life and property and by so doing, I would say gun control should be absolute because the harm it has done is more than what the founding fathers had in mind when the law was promulgated and come to think of it, has it even reduce crime to a large extent because if that cannot be established then the whole purpose of guns in the hands of civilians has been greatly defeated.
newbie
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January 04, 2017, 05:24:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/q6sJpTH.jpg

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?




There should be a gun control.
However, even the country has the most strict laws in owning a gun and yet they can't eliminate the illegal guns it's useless.
legendary
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January 04, 2017, 04:53:53 AM
Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !

That is exactly the aim behind gun control. Leftist parties such as the Democrat party in the United States want to protect burglars and home invaders from the rifles and shotguns of the home owners.

They also don't want you capable of shooting at them (the Leftists) when they decide to become the home invaders.
legendary
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January 03, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
I have to have a god-given right to protect myself and my family. In the house should be hidden and secured safe with a gun in it. Or, let there be no weapons, no one except the police.

When gun freedom exists, there are the criminals that you need to protect yourself from, using guns. There are, also, the criminals you need to protect yourself from using words. The latter is the gun control groups. The former might be the common thief.

Cops fall into the category of both. Sometimes you need to protect yourself from them with guns. But mostly with words, in court.

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sr. member
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January 03, 2017, 09:15:49 AM
I have to have a god-given right to protect myself and my family. In the house should be hidden and secured safe with a gun in it. Or, let there be no weapons, no one except the police.
legendary
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January 03, 2017, 01:15:58 AM
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent. Taking guns away from violent people will not make them less violent.

Look at the recent truck attacks in Paris and Berlin. You can't ban the trucks claiming that they can be used for terrorist attacks. Also, most of the major terrorist attacks are done using high-intensity explosives.
sr. member
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January 02, 2017, 03:20:55 PM
I believe that gun control will not work.

First, I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it. Guns themselves can't do anything it is the person with the gun that decides where the bullet goes.

Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent. Taking guns away from violent people will not make them less violent. It might make them more violent. Violent people can use anything to be violent. Taking guns away from violent people is no more than just taking one out of a thousand more ways to hurt, rob, or kill you.
legendary
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January 02, 2017, 12:25:10 AM
Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !

That is exactly the aim behind gun control. Leftist parties such as the Democrat party in the United States want to protect burglars and home invaders from the rifles and shotguns of the home owners.

The hard-core Leftists want to deprecate private property ownership and move to collective ownership, but they don't/cannot think much beyond that.  The people who animate and empower the Leftist want corporate ownership with individuals renting everything (from them.)  They see the collectivists as useful idiots since the the path to their respective goals starts out the same.

It is understandable why the leftists pursue such policies. Most of their supporters live off welfare and never pay any taxes. They are averse to working in order to earn money, and therefore few of them own private property.
legendary
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January 01, 2017, 10:52:37 PM

The right to bear Arms is the right of everyone but not everyone should be entitled to bear arms. Background checks should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to acquire a firearm and laws should be put in place that stipulates that should your firearm be used in any criminal activity irrespective of your knowledge, The person should be held culpable.

For a while I was in favor of 'reasonable' measures such as gun owners carrying a bond.  After all, it is not in my interest for dirtbags to be armed either.

Over the last half-decade or so it has become abundantly clear that the Leftists in particular don't give two shits about gun violence and public safety and 'saving the kids' and what-not.  Nope, this is about monopolization of force in the hands of the government.  Period.  Sure, many of the progressive drones are indoctrinated and actually do believe the propaganda, but that doesn't make it valid.

At the end of the day, gun circulation is not really all that big of a problem in the first place, and any realistic programs to 'solve' what problems do exist will simply result in fewer armed good guys and a lot more violence.

I've mentioned it before here, but back in the day when thinking people in the government really did want to address what problems did exist, they implemented a workable solution which worked well.  That is, punish the shit out of criminals who used firearms in the commission of a crime.  If it works, don't fix it.

I went from being 'reasonable' to not wanting to hear another word from these slime.  Not even such things as high capacity magazine limitations.  It's just the camel trying to get more of it's nose in the tent door and is not worth the risk.  The best way to teach these fuckers a lesson about why it's counterproductive to be a sneaky and disingenuous fuck in the U.S. is by rolling back a bunch of the bullshit that is already achieved.  e.g., 'gun free zones' and such.

FWIW, we now see exactly why the big push to castrate the public in a manner which is the direct opposition to what the founders wrote into the 2nd.  As I tap this out we've got a bunch of treasonous globalist scum brainstorming about how they could possibly avoid having the person we voted for take power.  The fact that we are a heavily armed population is throwing a serious monkey-wrench into the gears of some of the otherwise possible mechanisms they might be able to use.  Exactly as the founding fathers planned.


If you and I never agreed about anything else, we agree here.

This is why the message of Karl Lentz is so important:
1. The 9th Amendment says we have all the rights we did before Government came around;
2. The 6th and 7th Amendments say that we can have a jury trial in anything;
3. Government is paperwork - can't do anything; if Government harms us, it is people doing it; people can be sued man to man for any harm they have done to us, even if they are government people, but they have to be sued as people;
4. Federal district courts are courts of record in common law, this means the judge is separate from the  court operation... an operation which includes a claimant, a wrongdoer, the jury... called a tribunal;
5. If you are represented by an attorney or anybody (even yourself), you have given up your rights as a man/woman.
6. Without these 4 things, there can be no court, and these things have to be attested to under oath or affirmation from the stand:
   a. An accuser;
   b. One being accused;
   c. Injury that is evident injury to some man or woman;
   d. Witness and evidence that proves the one being accused did it.

Just some of the stuff that has been in the law all along. And people rarely use it.

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legendary
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January 01, 2017, 08:23:32 PM

The right to bear Arms is the right of everyone but not everyone should be entitled to bear arms. Background checks should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to acquire a firearm and laws should be put in place that stipulates that should your firearm be used in any criminal activity irrespective of your knowledge, The person should be held culpable.

For a while I was in favor of 'reasonable' measures such as gun owners carrying a bond.  After all, it is not in my interest for dirtbags to be armed either.

Over the last half-decade or so it has become abundantly clear that the Leftists in particular don't give two shits about gun violence and public safety and 'saving the kids' and what-not.  Nope, this is about monopolization of force in the hands of the government.  Period.  Sure, many of the progressive drones are indoctrinated and actually do believe the propaganda, but that doesn't make it valid.

At the end of the day, gun circulation is not really all that big of a problem in the first place, and any realistic programs to 'solve' what problems do exist will simply result in fewer armed good guys and a lot more violence.

I've mentioned it before here, but back in the day when thinking people in the government really did want to address what problems did exist, they implemented a workable solution which worked well.  That is, punish the shit out of criminals who used firearms in the commission of a crime.  If it works, don't fix it.

I went from being 'reasonable' to not wanting to hear another word from these slime.  Not even such things as high capacity magazine limitations.  It's just the camel trying to get more of it's nose in the tent door and is not worth the risk.  The best way to teach these fuckers a lesson about why it's counterproductive to be a sneaky and disingenuous fuck in the U.S. is by rolling back a bunch of the bullshit that is already achieved.  e.g., 'gun free zones' and such.

FWIW, we now see exactly why the big push to castrate the public in a manner which is the direct opposition to what the founders wrote into the 2nd.  As I tap this out we've got a bunch of treasonous globalist scum brainstorming about how they could possibly avoid having the person we voted for take power.  The fact that we are a heavily armed population is throwing a serious monkey-wrench into the gears of some of the otherwise possible mechanisms they might be able to use.  Exactly as the founding fathers planned.

sr. member
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January 01, 2017, 06:36:09 PM
The right to bear Arms is the right of everyone but not everyone should be entitled to bear arms. Background checks should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to acquire a firearm and laws should be put in place that stipulates that should your firearm be used in any criminal activity irrespective of your knowledge, The person should be held culpable.
legendary
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January 01, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
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States like North Korea work around this problem as best they can by making a high fence which cannot be be seen through.

You people are even more retarded and delusional then i though.
Move to north korea kimmie fanboy lol

I'll stick around and work against the efforts of dip-shits like you at bringing North Korea to us here in the U.S.

I basically understand how Leftist think because I was closer to that side of the scale for most of my life.  I noticed the brakes smoking and stepped off the train before the terminal incline, and I am watching as the other side puff it's way up the hill to see if it's worth stepping on (AR-15 figuratively in hand) if/when it makes it.  This makes me a particular unpleasant adversary and it's why Leftists are at the top of the Leftist kill list when they take over.  Through it all I've remained a classical Liberal.



Brain force nuff said  Grin
legendary
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January 01, 2017, 02:35:11 PM
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States like North Korea work around this problem as best they can by making a high fence which cannot be be seen through.

You people are even more retarded and delusional then i though.
Move to north korea kimmie fanboy lol

I'll stick around and work against the efforts of dip-shits like you at bringing North Korea to us here in the U.S.

I basically understand how Leftist think because I was closer to that side of the scale for most of my life.  I noticed the brakes smoking and stepped off the train before the terminal incline, and I am watching as the other side puff it's way up the hill to see if it's worth stepping on (AR-15 figuratively in hand) if/when it makes it.  This makes me a particular unpleasant adversary and it's why Leftists are at the top of the Leftist kill list when they take over.  Through it all I've remained a classical Liberal.

legendary
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January 01, 2017, 02:20:31 PM
Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !

That is exactly the aim behind gun control. Leftist parties such as the Democrat party in the United States want to protect burglars and home invaders from the rifles and shotguns of the home owners.
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[Leftism ate my soul or something around that line]
States like North Korea work around this problem as best they can by making a high fence which cannot be be seen through.



You people are even more retarded and delusional then i though.
Move to north korea kimmie fanboy lol
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