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legendary
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January 01, 2017, 01:15:21 PM
Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !

That is exactly the aim behind gun control. Leftist parties such as the Democrat party in the United States want to protect burglars and home invaders from the rifles and shotguns of the home owners.

The hard-core Leftists want to deprecate private property ownership and move to collective ownership, but they don't/cannot think much beyond that.  The people who animate and empower the Leftist want corporate ownership with individuals renting everything (from them.)  They see the collectivists as useful idiots since the the path to their respective goals starts out the same.

Ultimately one of the 'selling points' of renting from corp/gov will be personal safety and security.  If private individuals and communities can maintain security on their own, this selling point is not as powerful and swaths of property will remain outside of their control.  Worse still, the quality of life will be better in such communities than in the factory-farm style 'human habitats' created for maximum profitability.  No amount of public relations will be able to hide this reality.  I suspect that this is one of the driving forces behind disarming the population.

The same basic principle is currently playing out on a global scale.  The Technocrats working toward a one-world corporate structured government cannot tolerate a functional non-aligned nation state (e.g., Russia or the U.S.) to exist because they will not be able to argue that the life they create for the peeps is the best that is possible.  The grass will look greener on the other side of the fence because it will be.  States like North Korea work around this problem as best they can by making a high fence which cannot be be seen through.

legendary
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January 01, 2017, 05:46:09 AM
Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !

That is exactly the aim behind gun control. Leftist parties such as the Democrat party in the United States want to protect burglars and home invaders from the rifles and shotguns of the home owners.
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 08:02:54 PM

Better get brain force ultra. The next advacement of alex jones.

 Grin

I'll keep my 'brain force' unused on the shelf.  My mind is working fine and it looks like it's just a bunch of herbs.  I'm finally selling Bitcoin again after three years and am feeling kind of flush.  I'll keep buying various shit from https://www.Infowars.com to support their great work.  Last time I got some of Alex's dad's toothpaste which I actually like pretty well so I'll be buying more of it...even if Jones Sr. is/was a CIA agent or whatever.

You keep on drinking your fluoridated water and getting your 'vaccinations'.  Big Brother loves you, and he will love you even more as you get progressively more retarded and compliant.

newbie
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December 31, 2016, 06:28:25 PM
Gun control sucks !
It works only for the legal people !

It's easier to get illegal guns

Plus, it makes good people more vulnerable !
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 04:05:03 PM
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The story of your hero ccw is bullshit like i said earlier.

Say it all you like.  It may or may not be true, but what you say about it has no weight at all because you are clearly an ignorant goober.



Says the guy that changes his narrative every post after he "carefully" investigated it.

Better get brain force ultra. The next advacement of alex jones.

 Grin
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 02:47:47 PM
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The story of your hero ccw is bullshit like i said earlier.

Say it all you like.  It may or may not be true, but what you say about it has no weight at all because you are clearly an ignorant goober.

legendary
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December 31, 2016, 02:29:18 PM

Your ccw didnt do anything. He didnt shoot a single bullet.
And if the shooter didnt had eyes in the back of his head he didnt even saw him.

Btw sherlock, the ccw guys name was nick mali and his story like yours is bullshit.

Better reload on the super brain pills mate.

[Anedoctes that may be true or not but have nothing to do with the discussion]

In this mall shooting case the shooter was forced to switch the phase of his operation and focus on his own suicide due to the presence of a CCW.  Or so the story goes.

[Aley jones brain force produc placement]



The story of your hero ccw is bullshit like i said earlier.
The ccw didnt do anything. The shooter didnt even see him.

All you have is much brain shit.
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 02:10:44 PM

Your ccw didnt do anything. He didnt shoot a single bullet.
And if the shooter didnt had eyes in the back of his head he didnt even saw him.

Btw sherlock, the ccw guys name was nick mali and his story like yours is bullshit.

Better reload on the super brain pills mate.

The CCW, like most, was responsible, level headed, and well trained.  That's why CCWs commit crime as the lowest rate of any group of people (including off-duty police so I've heard.)

The thing about guns is that is the existence of them and not the use of them which is responsible for 99% of the benefit.  That is absolutely the case in my area.

In this mall shooting case the shooter was forced to switch the phase of his operation and focus on his own suicide due to the presence of a CCW.  Or so the story goes.

As for 'Brain Force' I've not tried any yet.  It doesn't seem like they would hurt you any though.  Perhaps you should buy a bottle and try them out?  Might help, but I kind of doubt it to be honest.

legendary
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December 31, 2016, 01:48:52 PM
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And the mall was no gun free zone.

Right.  They ran across a CCW which fucked up their show.  That's why almost all future psy-ops were staged at gun-free zones.  Mostly schools.  This also helps tug on the heartstrings of the sheep to see 'young people cut down at the beginning of their lifes' and all that baloney.  When you see footage of a couple of grieving fat women hugging on one another over and over on the nightly news then a few days later the president himself shows up to 'console the grieving community', it's a sure sign of one of these psychological operations.

My 'heart goes out' to the idiots who buy this BS.  Lulz.



Your ccw didnt do anything. He didnt shoot a single bullet.
And if the shooter didnt had eyes in the back of his head he didnt even saw him.

Btw sherlock, the ccw guys name was nick mali and his story like yours is bullshit.

Better reload on the super brain pills mate.
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 01:45:13 PM
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And the mall was no gun free zone.

Right.  They ran across a CCW which fucked up their show.  That's why almost all future psy-ops were staged at gun-free zones.  Mostly schools.  This also helps tug on the heartstrings of the sheep to see 'young people cut down at the beginning of their lifes' and all that baloney.  When you see footage of a couple of grieving fat women hugging on one another over and over on the nightly news then a few days later the president himself shows up to 'console the grieving community', it's a sure sign of one of these psychological operations.

My 'heart goes out' to the idiots who buy this BS.  Lulz.

legendary
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December 31, 2016, 01:25:37 PM

It was a mall which gets around 10k visitors per day (in my minimal research and familiarity with reality.)  You don't think that everyone who visits a mall in a day group themselves into a human-ball of 10k souls do you?

Why does the article you link say this then:

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Between 8,000 and 10,000 people were inside the mall at the time.

Big shopping malls in germany and everywhere else look like a human meat ball.
I guess the USA is the only exception.

You might want to take some more alex jones super brain pills. You need that for sure.


Btw. The only moment you cant hit anything in between 10 k people is if you have no fingers to pull the trigger.

In germany pretty much everyone knows how to use a weapon because not long ago it was mandatory to join the army at 18.
Sucker.

Malls in this country consist of hallways with shops off of them.  They don't appear as a stadium.  The halls are also often filled with things which can be used as cover such as furniture, signs, booths, etc.  Also there are a lot of them and they are often severely underutilized and look like ghost ships a lot of the time even during business hours.

Next, there is the apparently little known phenomenon that even the mythical AR-15 does actually require re-loading.  It doesn't spray smart-lead infinitely without ammunition management as in the movies.  The user in this case seems to have fumbled with magazines.

Looks like as the kid was dicking around with ammo when he noticed that a CCW had drawn down on him.  One can presume that he intended to commit suicide from the get-go, and had no interest in being winged by Joe Citizen CCW and taken alive by the cops.  So he completed his 'killing spree' with a count of two down and switched focus to killing himself.

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Well, looks like this one was probably a psy-op as well.  I never really looked into it, but it's the same pattern of non-people and/or politically connected and/or actors who came back from the dead.

https://archive.org/details/OregonMallShootingHoax-TheClackamasMallrampageNowAProvenFake

This was one of the earlier stage renditions.  Perhaps the CCW meeting was an unhappy chance and the drill was terminated early.  Most of these things are staged in 'gun free zones' probably mostly to avoid chance encounters.  Roseburg years later was another instance where most of the 'victims' researched turned out to be un-people.  The Sheriff who was notably pro-2nd said as clearly as he was able that there would be a lot of fed money pouring into the community because of the 'event'.  Lots of the Roseburg witnesses were associated with one of those creepy and recently set up new-age churches.



So no 8000 person a day but the excuse is now there was nobody where the shooter was (at the atrium=central room of the mall XD) and this is all a staged psy-op.

I advise you to throw in some hundred more super brain pills.

Also you weapon expert: the shooter had 5 full 30-round magz.
Even a newbie wouldnt need more then 10 seconds to load an ar-15....


Edit:

The story from nick meli is a joke....
And the mall was no gun free zone.

legendary
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December 31, 2016, 12:21:59 PM

It was a mall which gets around 10k visitors per day (in my minimal research and familiarity with reality.)  You don't think that everyone who visits a mall in a day group themselves into a human-ball of 10k souls do you?

Why does the article you link say this then:

Quote
Between 8,000 and 10,000 people were inside the mall at the time.

Big shopping malls in germany and everywhere else look like a human meat ball.
I guess the USA is the only exception.

You might want to take some more alex jones super brain pills. You need that for sure.


Btw. The only moment you cant hit anything in between 10 k people is if you have no fingers to pull the trigger.

In germany pretty much everyone knows how to use a weapon because not long ago it was mandatory to join the army at 18.
Sucker.

Malls in this country consist of hallways with shops off of them.  They don't appear as a stadium.  The halls are also often filled with things which can be used as cover such as furniture, signs, booths, etc.  Also there are a lot of them and they are often severely underutilized and look like ghost ships a lot of the time even during business hours.

Next, there is the apparently little known phenomenon that even the mythical AR-15 does actually require re-loading.  It doesn't spray smart-lead infinitely without ammunition management as in the movies.  The user in this case seems to have fumbled with magazines.

Looks like as the kid was dicking around with ammo when he noticed that a CCW had drawn down on him.  One can presume that he intended to commit suicide from the get-go, and had no interest in being winged by Joe Citizen CCW and taken alive by the cops.  So he completed his 'killing spree' with a count of two down and switched focus to killing himself.

---

Well, looks like this one was probably a psy-op as well.  I never really looked into it, but it's the same pattern of non-people and/or politically connected and/or actors who came back from the dead.

https://archive.org/details/OregonMallShootingHoax-TheClackamasMallrampageNowAProvenFake

This was one of the earlier stage renditions.  Perhaps the CCW meeting was an unhappy chance and the drill was terminated early.  Most of these things are staged in 'gun free zones' probably mostly to avoid chance encounters.  Roseburg years later was another instance where most of the 'victims' researched turned out to be un-people.  The Sheriff who was notably pro-2nd said as clearly as he was able that there would be a lot of fed money pouring into the community because of the 'event'.  Lots of the Roseburg witnesses were associated with one of those creepy and recently set up new-age churches.

legendary
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December 31, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
If it is not possible to protect yourself, that there are few who will do it for you. If we take into account what is happening in Europe, where people are dying of peaceful streets, the availability of weapons could stop the terrorists.

Armed citizens dont stop terrorist. Remember 9/11 [insert any other terror attack]?¿?¿

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting

This one wasn't covered much...didn't help 'advance the narrative' I suppose.  Might be one of the few which wasn't a staged psy-op even.  Once or twice a year there probably is an genuine organic-ish crack-pot who goes on a rampage.

Good lord that he was a pot head.
Reading the details: 10.000 visitors and he stood in the atrium, opened fire and only killed two people with an AR-15.

An AR-15 is just another rifle.  I suspect that the idiots who think that an AR-15 some magical power to self-aim and shoot around corners have very limited hands-on experience with firearms and it is crystal clear that their brains have been highly affected by well funded public relations campaigns.

Any somewhat clear-thinking gun-grabber will readily admit that they are starting with 'assault rifles' simply for PR reasons, and intend to move on to everything which compromises the ability of the state to monopolize security.  I expect that most of them have really not thought beyond that and asked themselves 'why?' exactly.

AR-15's 'look scary' which is why they are a useful propaganda tools.  They don't have any magical powers at all.  Indeed, firearms in general are sub-optimal to cause significant casualties in crowded areas relative to other technologies.  The biggest 'problem' with guns is probably that they allow individuals to not need to rely on the state for protection.  This is a bigger issue for people in rural areas where law enforcement is spotty and absent.

Standing between 10.000 people in close quarter with a semi automatic rifle.

Yep you need to be an american sniper to hit something (more then two people).

 Roll Eyes

Someone on the payroll of the nra here? No wonder you can buy alex jones super brain pills.

It was a mall which gets around 10k visitors per day (in my minimal research and familiarity with reality.)  You don't think that everyone who visits a mall in a day group themselves into a human-ball of 10k souls do you?

Why does the article you link say this then:

Quote
Between 8,000 and 10,000 people were inside the mall at the time.

Big shopping malls in germany and everywhere else look like a human meat ball.
I guess the USA is the only exception.

You might want to take some more alex jones super brain pills. You need that for sure.


Btw. The only moment you cant hit anything in between 10 k people is if you have no fingers to pull the trigger.

In germany pretty much everyone knows how to use a weapon because not long ago it was mandatory to join the army at 18.
Sucker.
legendary
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December 31, 2016, 07:29:21 AM
Beside having a Gun Control owners should also be more calm and ensure that their mood won't affect on thwir decision when using it.

There is no way to ensure this. A person who seems calm and peaceful today may be the one who kills a few dozen tomorrow in a terrorist attack. Mood depends on a lot of things.

So the only viable method is to remove guns from the criminals, and the mentally deranged, and allow gun ownership for everyone else.

Be careful that you don't let Government declare that all of its citizens are mentally deranged if they want to have guns.

Cool
legendary
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December 30, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Beside having a Gun Control owners should also be more calm and ensure that their mood won't affect on thwir decision when using it.

There is no way to ensure this. A person who seems calm and peaceful today may be the one who kills a few dozen tomorrow in a terrorist attack. Mood depends on a lot of things.

So the only viable method is to remove guns from the criminals, and the mentally deranged, and allow gun ownership for everyone else.
legendary
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December 30, 2016, 03:57:59 PM
Gun control is necessary and a must.

But there is no way to do it without using guns. So, the gun control idea is self-contradictory, and a lie.

Cool
legendary
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December 30, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
If it is not possible to protect yourself, that there are few who will do it for you. If we take into account what is happening in Europe, where people are dying of peaceful streets, the availability of weapons could stop the terrorists.

Armed citizens dont stop terrorist. Remember 9/11 [insert any other terror attack]?¿?¿

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting

This one wasn't covered much...didn't help 'advance the narrative' I suppose.  Might be one of the few which wasn't a staged psy-op even.  Once or twice a year there probably is an genuine organic-ish crack-pot who goes on a rampage.

Good lord that he was a pot head.
Reading the details: 10.000 visitors and he stood in the atrium, opened fire and only killed two people with an AR-15.

An AR-15 is just another rifle.  I suspect that the idiots who think that an AR-15 some magical power to self-aim and shoot around corners have very limited hands-on experience with firearms and it is crystal clear that their brains have been highly affected by well funded public relations campaigns.

Any somewhat clear-thinking gun-grabber will readily admit that they are starting with 'assault rifles' simply for PR reasons, and intend to move on to everything which compromises the ability of the state to monopolize security.  I expect that most of them have really not thought beyond that and asked themselves 'why?' exactly.

AR-15's 'look scary' which is why they are a useful propaganda tools.  They don't have any magical powers at all.  Indeed, firearms in general are sub-optimal to cause significant casualties in crowded areas relative to other technologies.  The biggest 'problem' with guns is probably that they allow individuals to not need to rely on the state for protection.  This is a bigger issue for people in rural areas where law enforcement is spotty and absent.

Standing between 10.000 people in close quarter with a semi automatic rifle.

Yep you need to be an american sniper to hit something (more then two people).

 Roll Eyes

Someone on the payroll of the nra here? No wonder you can buy alex jones super brain pills.

It was a mall which gets around 10k visitors per day (in my minimal research and familiarity with reality.)  You don't think that everyone who visits a mall in a day group themselves into a human-ball of 10k souls do you?

City dwellers do seem to be becoming pretty deer-in-the-headlights but they still have a the vestiges of a self preservation instinct (which is one of the reasons why there was a CCW in the mix.)  Probably more somewhat together people in the Portland area where there is a tendency toward avoiding medication in the public water supply.  This means that in the real world most people will duck and scatter when they realize that they are under fire.   Again, an AR-15 does not fire smart-bullets so there are functional reasons why a shooter cannot get 100 clean kills with 40 rounds and no non-fatal hits.  When that happens it's a pretty sure sign you are seeing a staged psy-op.

member
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December 30, 2016, 02:24:26 PM
Gun control is necessary and a must. This will help minimize the unreasonable deaths or accidents due to irresponsible use of it. Governtment should take charge of controlling it and ensure that law are strictly abided by everyone owning and planning to have a gun. A person owns a gun should be responsible and has a capacity to own. He or she should be mentally capable to have it and knows when to use it. Most of the people who owns a gun has a tendency to be more boastful and irresponsible. Beside having a Gun Control owners should also be more calm and ensure that their mood won't affect on thwir decision when using it.
legendary
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December 30, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
Armed citizens dont stop terrorist. Remember 9/11 [insert any other terror attack]?¿?¿

Great example, considering the crew and passengers of the hijacked planes on 9/11 were disarmed.

In fact, the Federal Flight Deck Officer program was launched after 9/11 which allows eligible crew members to carry firearms to prevent such an attack from occurring in the future.

We can only speculate what would have happened if any of the crew or passengers were armed on that day, but I imagine that those planes wouldn't have been flown into the WTC buildings, at the very least.

Hijackers were armed with shaving razors and pepper spray...

Allegedly... but exactly my point!

And whats exactly your point? That passengers including the terrorist would have weapons? So the terrorist could hijack the plane even faster?
The terrorist always have the surprise moment for them....
legendary
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December 30, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
Here is one of my good friends speaking about her sexual assault experience and how gun control is not productive. Limiting guns causes the most vulnerable in society to be defenseless against violent crime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnmXAUOi8pw
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