Where to seek help if you need; concerned with gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Saisher on May 08, 2021, 06:38:10 PM

Sir, I don' think it will work, yes they can exclude you but that doesn't mean you cannot register again using a new account or you can just go to other gambling sites register and continue playing, we need to address the symptoms not restriction to a gambling site, a compulsive gambler will always find a way, and will always try to cheat himself to play.

It might not be the most effective solution to most gamblers but I think it's still a good alternative to stop other gamblers from escalating their addiction even further since there's different stages or phases to these gambling addictions.

He's only trying to help and give every solution available, it's always better when you have other options.

You can't be perfect in this regard, but we can at least try to make resources available and have the info required at hand.

Some people feel too embarrassed to admit that they have a gambling addiction and having this online forum where they can get help (should they seek it) is amazing!

Obviously, this will only work if the people on the other side use it but still it is great to have this option Wink

and talk openly about it, while at the same time realising that greed in this respect is the catalyst for this addiction, it may make people more aware of their behaviour/causes

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Getting professional help is key, I know that a lot of people do not want to do this because by doing so they are admitting they have a problem but that is the first and the most important step that someone needs to take in the case they want to recover from a gambling addiction, as even if they have the best intentions to recover from them once an addictive behavior has taken place it is almost impossible to beat it without professional help.

With a strong determination an addict will certainly be able to get out of his addiction. Strong determination doesn't mean you have to be alone and try to get out of addiction because that way won't work, strong determination here is about finding lots of outdoor activities with lots of friends because that way you can get a new fun atmosphere. But if you don't have the effort to come out on your own then of course, seeking professional help and a psychologist is the final way to go. Not all gambling addicts will be willing to bring up their problems and therefore, at least there is a way to do it yourself without needing help first.

There are some people out there that can overcome their addiction on their own but the numbers of those people are small, after all if they could do this on their own then they would have never got addicted in the first place, so once a person makes the realization that they have a problem they need to gather the support of their family and explain to them the situation and then try to get professional help as it is the fastest way they can recover.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 19, 2021, 07:20:54 AM

There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.

That's basically the truth when people think he's right even though he's doing it all wrong, we can't do anything about it and it's so hard to explain to them when they are in this state of mind. Because no matter how much logic you tell them, they always turn away from it, and the only one who can help them is when they decide to go to someone who can give them sincere advice and I think this time they will gonna listen and ponder about it.

Once they realized they needed to seek professional help, that's the time that they are ready to move forward and try to move away from this business.

People who are not ready to step away from gambling will always have their own interpretations, not even the symptoms of addictions already present. They will continue to bring excuses.

It's always the person who is into this concern is the one who can resolve his own problem, either by self will or by the help of those professionals that they'll going to hire for help.

I think the main reason why gambling addicts don't want to go to a professional is because they are afraid to show their weakness in public.After all, many of them have at least once tried to overcome their gambling addiction on their own, so they are aware that they have problems but don't want others to know about it. This is a kind of psychological trap that prevents them from coping with their addiction.

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Quote from: yazher on August 19, 2021, 08:08:44 AM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 19, 2021, 07:20:54 AM

There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.

That's basically the truth when people think he's right even though he's doing it all wrong, we can't do anything about it and it's so hard to explain to them when they are in this state of mind. Because no matter how much logic you tell them, they always turn away from it, and the only one who can help them is when they decide to go to someone who can give them sincere advice and I think this time they will gonna listen and ponder about it.

Once they realized they needed to seek professional help, that's the time that they are ready to move forward and try to move away from this business.

People who are not ready to step away from gambling will always have their own interpretations, not even the symptoms of addictions already present. They will continue to bring excuses.

It's always the person who is into this concern is the one who can resolve his own problem, either by self will or by the help of those professionals that they'll going to hire for help.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 17, 2021, 09:51:16 AM

Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says:

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Prefrontal cortex
The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.

I wish it were so! In fact, they only know that gambling addiction has something to do with prefrontal cortex, and that's it, so far. I really hope they will explain it one day, but we not there yet, unfortunately.

There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.

Gambling addiction is a disease, and saying that someone just has to quit gambling and thus end the disease isn't right. It is classed as an impulse-control disorder, and some drugs and/or therapy for treating this disorder can be helpful, but the main research is still underway. So, I wouldn't say that "the solutions already are existing". I mean, the existing solutions are not for everyone. There's a lot to research in this field still.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on August 19, 2021, 08:15:59 AM

All this talk about finding help seems a little hypocritical in here if we think about it. Most of us, talk about gambling addiction and then have a crypto casino signature in place. So to quote the movie The Untouchables, Al Capone here on this thread would comment "You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge".
I'm not saying we shouldn't remind everyone here around the dangers of gambling but still I don't see the point of the thread.

While I do agree with some points you raised, having a signature promoting gambling does not ipso facto convert a person from supporting fully gambling. We are all entitled to our respective opinions and threads like these promote awareness and support from gamblers who are suffering from addiction.

Regardless if we are promoting a gambling website or not, the concern of gambling addiction should be addressed no matter what as this has serious detrimental effects on a person. Having this open forum where people can share their tips/experiences is definitely beneficial in the long run.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on August 18, 2021, 02:07:06 AM

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.

some psychologists offer their services to people who can't pay but this is a minor % and more like social work.
It's definitely a matter of priorities, people could try to find a way and pay for their treatment, in the end it'll help and in the long run if they're addicted to gambling and considering all the positive sides of attending the psychologist, it'll be cheap.

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There are but you'll rarely find them especially in these difficult times, everyone is in need of money and they're rendering services just to earn money as most countries economic status has been so bad for a year and nearly going to two years. And if someone thinks that he's a gambling addict, he has to help himself in any way that he can to reduce that addiction and be healed. I agree to the last words you've said, you have to take care of yourself and you'll still be the one to benefit from it as you invest on yourself and personal care.

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All this talk about finding help seems a little hypocritical in here if we think about it. Most of us, talk about gambling addiction and then have a crypto casino signature in place. So to quote the movie The Untouchables, Al Capone here on this thread would comment "You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge".
I'm not saying we shouldn't remind everyone here around the dangers of gambling but still I don't see the point of the thread.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 19, 2021, 07:20:54 AM

There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.

That's basically the truth when people think he's right even though he's doing it all wrong, we can't do anything about it and it's so hard to explain to them when they are in this state of mind. Because no matter how much logic you tell them, they always turn away from it, and the only one who can help them is when they decide to go to someone who can give them sincere advice and I think this time they will gonna listen and ponder about it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 19, 2021, 03:58:18 AM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 17, 2021, 09:51:16 AM

Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says:

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Prefrontal cortex
The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.

I wish it were so! In fact, they only know that gambling addiction has something to do with prefrontal cortex, and that's it, so far. I really hope they will explain it one day, but we not there yet, unfortunately.

There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on August 18, 2021, 02:07:06 AM

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.

For free? This is something impossible and its true that nothing on this world would be free towards giving out some service since counselling or any service would really be having corresponding fee.

When it comes to addiction then this is something which cant really be resolved easily but you should start off with yourself first if you are really that eager on getting rid of addiction.

It might not be simple but could really be possible and much more less in expense if you could actually done it for yourself.Next would be your own family on helping you out on resolving your current problem.

Wouldn't happen in most of the cases but I know of psychologists in Brazil who give their services for free to help people,
probably most of those who do it have enough clients to earn good money and donate part of their hours to help
some lawyers do the same.

I'm not sure how often this happens in other countries but would believe that probabilities are high, in bigger or smaller amount...

yes, addiction is a hard problem to overcome and for most gamblers (or day traders) would take months to years

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Quote from: South Park on August 18, 2021, 05:38:54 PM

Getting professional help is key, I know that a lot of people do not want to do this because by doing so they are admitting they have a problem but that is the first and the most important step that someone needs to take in the case they want to recover from a gambling addiction, as even if they have the best intentions to recover from them once an addictive behavior has taken place it is almost impossible to beat it without professional help.

With a strong determination an addict will certainly be able to get out of his addiction. Strong determination doesn't mean you have to be alone and try to get out of addiction because that way won't work, strong determination here is about finding lots of outdoor activities with lots of friends because that way you can get a new fun atmosphere. But if you don't have the effort to come out on your own then of course, seeking professional help and a psychologist is the final way to go. Not all gambling addicts will be willing to bring up their problems and therefore, at least there is a way to do it yourself without needing help first.

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According to what you count, you must be careful, because if you do not abandon the game when you lose the danger that exists is that you lose enough capital and that you can neglect your basic needs, a person can allow himself to lose what he wants if he has a good economic condition, but if you see that you are compromising a lot of balance that you have destined for your family or other basic needs, if you have to stop it.
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Your economic condition can be not that good, but you can still buy a lottery ticket, or place a small bet on your favorite team, if the amount you are risking in the process is less or equal to the price of a cup of coffee in your area. I mean, you don't have to, but if it makes you happier - you can.

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 17, 2021, 09:51:16 AM

Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says:

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Prefrontal cortex
The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.

I wish it were so! In fact, they only know that gambling addiction has something to do with prefrontal cortex, and that's it, so far. I really hope they will explain it one day, but we not there yet, unfortunately.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

Getting professional help is key, I know that a lot of people do not want to do this because by doing so they are admitting they have a problem but that is the first and the most important step that someone needs to take in the case they want to recover from a gambling addiction, as even if they have the best intentions to recover from them once an addictive behavior has taken place it is almost impossible to beat it without professional help.

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Quote from: blockman on August 18, 2021, 11:03:15 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on August 18, 2021, 02:07:06 AM

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.

For free? This is something impossible and its true that nothing on this world would be free towards giving out some service since counselling or any service would really be having corresponding fee.

When it comes to addiction then this is something which cant really be resolved easily but you should start off with yourself first if you are really that eager on getting rid of addiction.

It might not be simple but could really be possible and much more less in expense if you could actually done it for yourself.Next would be your own family on helping you out on resolving your current problem.

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Think reminds of the book "Wiley's Trading for a living" where the author talked about an alcoholic group where they would gather, do certain things and get over their alcoholic problems the same could be done when traders start gambling without reading the charts properly and without any technical analysis which is no different than gambling away their money.

What I mean to say is that there are people that are your nemesis and once you meet certain people in your life you'll realize they either hooked you up with wrong stuff or fixed some of your stuff, So it's much better to create gambler's group in real life where gamblers would gather where they'll have a good chance of meeting the right person.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 08, 2021, 01:04:39 PM

Where to get help:

Gamcare operates the GamCare operates the National Gambling Helpline, providing information, advice and support for anyone affected by gambling problems - advisers are available 24 hours a day on Freephone 0808 8020 133 or via web chat.

Please feel free to add sources according to the nation or locality. 🌞

I think that gamcare is unfortunately rather limited to helping UK based problem gamblers and I'm not sure they'd have the resources available to help people in other countries over the phone - their website will certainly have some useful advice worth reading. Honestly, online resources can help you with some solid strategies but ultimately you have to want to change and except that you may have wasted a lot of money before hitting the realization that you will never win long term gambling. It's fine for the odd bit of fun, but if you have a serious addiction you need to stay away from it permanently because it can suck you back in if you don't - accept you cannot control it except by cutting it out completely.

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Quote from: blockman on August 18, 2021, 11:03:15 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on August 18, 2021, 02:07:06 AM

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.

some psychologists offer their services to people who can't pay but this is a minor % and more like social work.
It's definitely a matter of priorities, people could try to find a way and pay for their treatment, in the end it'll help and in the long run if they're addicted to gambling and considering all the positive sides of attending the psychologist, it'll be cheap.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on August 18, 2021, 02:07:06 AM

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

Yeah exactly.

There are plenty of free counseling services online as well, although they are probably less effective than if you saw one in real life.

However, do note that seeing a psych alone does not vindicate you. You still need to put in the effort to get into the right mindset - ultimately, no one is stopping you from gambling and no one can, and you need to treat it as entertainment rather than a way to make quick money/chase losses.

yes, definitely in this case being in the presence of someone else and not only on the digital world will probably be more effective

and you are right
we can't run away from ourselves
finding the reason of why we have our behaviors is the main thing to do

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

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It would be the last option if it turns out that helping yourself first or seeking help from your loved ones didn't work because this had always been the case on where they do opt for professional help but to think that this isn't a guaranteed help that you would really be able to solve out your problem.

It is actually on someones mind if he's serious on quitting gambling in the first place.You would really be that serious on doing that and this would help at least.

Addiction is something that cant really get easily rid if you wanted too.It would really require strong will and dedication to fight over addiction.

I don't think this should be the last option, in reality
a lot of people have a prejudice against therapy (not saying this is your case) but the reality is that it can help people, specially those facing problems like addiction

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