Where to seek help if you need; concerned with gambling addiction. - page 2.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 16, 2021, 06:09:25 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 13, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun.

So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing.

Nice. As long as you are having fun it doesn't matter if you are losing what is already made as a budget for that day to gamble. That's not addiction yet in my opinion because you are still aware about what/how much you are risking.
I like that idea and maybe I am also on that same boat. I keep on losing before at NBA bets but I tried to go deeper into analyzing the game and gain some wins in the long run. That made me more happy than just enjoying the game while losing in the end.
It's a different joy when a win happens in both team you are cheering for and including your bet. A satisfying one specially if it doesn't occur every time.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on August 18, 2021, 03:12:33 AM

There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted.
and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.

Not all countries will have that facility to help the addicted person gamble because if a country prohibit gambling, they will not have that. Still, maybe they will have a facility to addicted to drugs and alcohol as that problem is almost happening in all countries. But that will depend on how good the government is concerned about the addiction matter, but maybe the hospital can help solve the addiction problem. Those addicted people to gambling will not admit that they are addicted. Maybe after their family or friends consult with the doctor or psychiatrist will know about the problem and how to solve it.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on August 18, 2021, 03:12:33 AM

There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted.
and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.

It's a problem on both sides really. People that could help aren't really asking it for free nor could they since that's what they do for a living, and as for the addict himself there are still a multitude of problems here. First, Addicts that acknowledge themselves as addicts don't need psychologists, they need someone to brute force help them where they manage his funds, finance, expenses, etc. so that they have full control over what they spend. This way, the gambler would have in no way be able to gamble. Secondly, addicts that don't admit they are is what require psychologists. They tend to help in making them realize they are addicts, and where to start. The first method of bruteforcing is hard on the addict and the one helping him ngl, but honestly, it's the best solution in terms of doing it free of charge imo.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted.
and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive

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I have seen that there is a lot of discussion about gambling ambition, but there is a way I can channel it through NFT games, I was recently talking to a friend who is a gamer by nature, and he told me that juices like WOF, Tibia, Axie, they put something to what many call the "Stamina", which means that at least the players can enjoy the game for 12 continuous hours, after that the performance of their char no longer performs, because they must let them rest for at least another 12 hours, this was put because many gamers had health problems, they developed kidney problems.

I think that players who are very dedicated to playing these types of games are useful, now that NFT games are booming it would be a great option.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

Yeah exactly.

There are plenty of free counseling services online as well, although they are probably less effective than if you saw one in real life.

However, do note that seeing a psych alone does not vindicate you. You still need to put in the effort to get into the right mindset - ultimately, no one is stopping you from gambling and no one can, and you need to treat it as entertainment rather than a way to make quick money/chase losses.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 17, 2021, 03:11:34 PM

that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

It would be the last option if it turns out that helping yourself first or seeking help from your loved ones didn't work because this had always been the case on where they do opt for professional help but to think that this isn't a guaranteed help that you would really be able to solve out your problem.

It is actually on someones mind if he's serious on quitting gambling in the first place.You would really be that serious on doing that and this would help at least.

Addiction is something that cant really get easily rid if you wanted too.It would really require strong will and dedication to fight over addiction.

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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.

adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea:
Seek professional help with a psychologist
Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 16, 2021, 06:09:25 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 13, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun.

So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing.

Gambling urges are challenging and very hard to treat because the person never wants to admit he is addicted in gambling or he never want to confess that he is playing gambling because he doesn't want to be shame by his family or friends, that's why it's harder for them to seek help or to know how to get rid of their addiction.

Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says:

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Prefrontal cortex
The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 16, 2021, 06:09:25 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 13, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun.

So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing.

According to what you count, you must be careful, because if you do not abandon the game when you lose the danger that exists is that you lose enough capital and that you can neglect your basic needs, a person can allow himself to lose what he wants if he has a good economic condition, but if you see that you are compromising a lot of balance that you have destined for your family or other basic needs, if you have to stop it.

What I recommend is that you can allocate a part of the money willing to lose without regrets, because you enjoy it and because it will not hurt you, if you win excellent, but if you lose, you will still feel good because you will feel that you spent on your own fun.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 16, 2021, 06:09:25 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 13, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun.

So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing.

If you are losing an amount that you are aware of and willing to let go, just like how you make yourself as an example. You are enjoying and you value those moments that you are being entertained using the amount that you are aware to lose soon.

It's the manner in how a person/gambler takes his responsibilities. Addiction comes from Un-control actions.

If you already in that situation, best to assess and adjust if it's needed to do so.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 13, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun.

So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing.

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Are we invariably saying that gambling is not good? Why then are promoting it here if you answer is yes. OP, in your submission above, you said gambling is an easy way to make money which I don't believe is true because gambling is even more difficult and risky than trading crypto currency and stock. For those who are addicted and want a way out of the addiction, one of the way out is to get yourself busy with something else that you love with that action you will be free from addicted to playing gambling.

Majorities perception and views would be likely to be "YES" without even minding that most of those people who said are advertising gambling sites which is totally ironic on what they've been saying.

Addiction is a personal problem and this doesnt limit out on gambling alone but on other things as well.When you do get addicted then it simply means about personal decisions that you had made.

Gambling isnt bad if you dont make yourself addicted and make out things which would really make yourself get compromised or put you into a big problem.

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I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.

Moreover, if you have a supportive surrounding, family and friends, they will not just hate you or resent you, they will be helping you but that is not easy to find because when you are addicted it is easy to see how everyone tries to hate you, it is easy to hate an addicted person, it is hard to help them. So, if you have family that is there to help you get over it, that is going to make it so much easier.

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Quote from: perla on August 12, 2021, 03:34:44 AM

I just want to make clear, is it free? If it's free I think this hotline can be very helpful for people who are addicted to gambling but I think there are some alternative ways to get out of addiction, one thing is to ask your family for help it's much better if you will be helped by family member but also if you have some money you can probably hire a therapist to control your gambling addiction.

The role of family members is very helpful to get out of the story of gambling addiction but if the relationship between your family is not human it will be very difficult even if you hire a therapist, the last step is to realize who you really are and why you were born on earth then you will judge if your behavior is completely wrong.

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I just want to make clear, is it free? If it's free I think this hotline can be very helpful for people who are addicted to gambling but I think there are some alternative ways to get out of addiction, one thing is to ask your family for help it's much better if you will be helped by family member but also if you have some money you can probably hire a therapist to control your gambling addiction.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 11, 2021, 08:14:38 PM

Quote from: hello_good_sir on August 11, 2021, 07:39:36 PM

Beginner's luck is really a curse, huh.

You should NEVER, ever treat gambling as a way to get rich quick. If that was the case, then wouldn't everyone be billionaires by now and casinos would all be broke? Once you truly realise that there will be no prospect of addiction.

The casino that you play on operates a game that is mathematically skewed towards their favour and there is nothing that you can do to possibly change that. If you want a long term way to "gamble" with positive EV, either look into arbitrage betting, or invest in the bankroll of a casino.

Fortunately for me, I have a bad start in gambling and realize early that gambling should not be treated as a cash cow and should only play with spare money or money that you can afford to lose, beginner's luck are the easiest way to deceive yourself that you are born with gambler's luck until you realize that it's not but you are too late to find this out, it's better to read information and all sides of it, on gambler's perspective and the casinos before starting to play if you are a newbie.

Exactly.No matter how hard you try to win,in as much as this games was skewed in a way to favour them,you cannot win a huge amount to the level you think you can win it. There is luck to win once or twice,but to win them completely is impossible. We just need to be cautious on how we go about gambling,because the moment we become addicted,it will be very hard to stop it.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on August 11, 2021, 07:39:36 PM

Beginner's luck is really a curse, huh.

You should NEVER, ever treat gambling as a way to get rich quick. If that was the case, then wouldn't everyone be billionaires by now and casinos would all be broke? Once you truly realise that there will be no prospect of addiction.

The casino that you play on operates a game that is mathematically skewed towards their favour and there is nothing that you can do to possibly change that. If you want a long term way to "gamble" with positive EV, either look into arbitrage betting, or invest in the bankroll of a casino.

Fortunately for me, I have a bad start in gambling and realize early that gambling should not be treated as a cash cow and should only play with spare money or money that you can afford to lose, beginner's luck are the easiest way to deceive yourself that you are born with gambler's luck until you realize that it's not but you are too late to find this out, it's better to read information and all sides of it, on gambler's perspective and the casinos before starting to play if you are a newbie.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on August 11, 2021, 07:39:36 PM

Beginner's luck is really a curse, huh.

it is not a curse mate because i believe that this is intended , meaning the what so called Beginners luck in Online gambling usually a treated occasion in which casino houses sets up tot hose account that newly created.

but not like in real life gambling in which this is really happening .

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You should NEVER, ever treat gambling as a way to get rich quick. If that was the case, then wouldn't everyone be billionaires by now and casinos would all be broke? Once you truly realise that there will be no prospect of addiction.
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there are many that looks at gambling to be the way of making a Million , but it is the shitmost thing that we will think.

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