Which is better, staking or investing? - page 18.

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Quote from: Stedsm on June 23, 2020, 02:35:57 PM

Why is the risk non-existent, mate? It still exists.
I know they've got a good reputation out there but what's in the future, we don't know yet. Whatever you're staking is just based on trust because your coins will still be in the wallet and if it gets a server hack or something like that, do you believe you'll see your coins back again? Here I"m asking about the coins that you staked and not the return.

AFAIK Atomic Wallet is non-custodial, i.e. the user controls the keys and doesn't need a server. That's really the only way staking should be done, if one must. Any kind of custodial wallet, shared masternode, exchange staking stuff is just asking for trouble.

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Quote from: Stedsm on June 23, 2020, 02:35:57 PM

Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 23, 2020, 01:41:40 PM

Your word is correct. The stake is risky if I give the coins to a third party or an unknown coins. As for me, I am currently Staking the AWC token at Atomic Wallet. I think this Wallet is well-known and has a good reputation and high confidence and I expect the token to have a good future in addition to that you have the token in your own Wallet and your private key is available to you so I think the risk here is almost non-existent.

Why is the risk non-existent, mate? It still exists.
I know they've got a good reputation out there but what's in the future, we don't know yet. Whatever you're staking is just based on trust because your coins will still be in the wallet and if it gets a server hack or something like that, do you believe you'll see your coins back again? Here I"m asking about the coins that you staked and not the return.

You said it right and people do missed out these kind of things most of the time on where to believe that risk is non-existent.
Staking thing is long time good and also this one is considered investment since you do put up money into this.
Asking on which one is better? Its up to our own choice because every step we do make in using our money to earn
money then it do always vary on how we do handle it well and lessen down the risk involved.

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Good or not depends on the project, it is not possible if the project is bad can give good results, whether it's by way of investment or staking because it all depends on the project and its platform. Maybe Binance and other exchanges in this case can provide a learning for them and I think ideas like this will continue to be developed and as long as they can provide the best, why should they be prevented because they will also strive to continue to grow to be the best.

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In my opinion, staking is more risky because we do not know the price in the market. I mean the price in the market can change at any time, if you join a staking project that has a stable price or more rising, it will be profitable, but if you join a staking project, the price is getting fall or die then you will lose all the money you have

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 23, 2020, 01:41:40 PM

Your word is correct. The stake is risky if I give the coins to a third party or an unknown coins. As for me, I am currently Staking the AWC token at Atomic Wallet. I think this Wallet is well-known and has a good reputation and high confidence and I expect the token to have a good future in addition to that you have the token in your own Wallet and your private key is available to you so I think the risk here is almost non-existent.

Why is the risk non-existent, mate? It still exists.
I know they've got a good reputation out there but what's in the future, we don't know yet. Whatever you're staking is just based on trust because your coins will still be in the wallet and if it gets a server hack or something like that, do you believe you'll see your coins back again? Here I"m asking about the coins that you staked and not the return.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on June 23, 2020, 11:09:13 AM

Staking isn't that bad but a very risky form of investment especially when you don't carry out proper research and invest in a worthless shitcoins that's just been hyped and when that hypes dies down they give poor ROI as a result of the price of the coin declining massively. Also you should rethink the mode of staking your investing into as giving your coins to a third party or not owning the private key to the wallet the coins are been staked in is as foolish as storing your coins on an exchange.

Your word is correct. The stake is risky if I give the coins to a third party or an unknown coins. As for me, I am currently Staking the AWC token at Atomic Wallet. I think this Wallet is well-known and has a good reputation and high confidence and I expect the token to have a good future in addition to that you have the token in your own Wallet and your private key is available to you so I think the risk here is almost non-existent.

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If you are willing to hodl for longer and can "stake" your coins for at least a year to get the decided amount through its staking, and you do all this after understanding the risks clearly that the value of that specific coin could be worth anything tomorrow (or the day when your stake matures and you get your share). Investing has three phases - short term, mid-term and long term but the difference here is that, you have your coins with yourself and need to trade yourself to gain anything on it.

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Seems like OP is concerned about one coin's staking which could be an attempt to shill on what they have invested or where they are being affiliated. It would be good if OP removed the links they have included as that is not a good example for staking as staking is an old concept and almost all the people on this crypto space might have been aware of it already. So, I guess for example purposes including one particular coin is not at all appropriate in my opinion.

Let me talk about staking and investing.

Both do not have big differences on ROI perspective as both are providing same kind of results for investors these days.

In some sense staking is seeming better than investing because it is like you are starting up a business venture to generate a passive income stream. Investing must be same kind but here you are fully depending on market value of your asset and no other factors are influencing your level of profits.

Staking get you more shares (coins) to increase your chances for get good ROI. But, investing will not impact the number of shares you bought hence you market value is the only factor for good ROI.

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I think it makes no sense comparing staking to Investing since staking it technically a form of Investing. Probably if you're comparing owning masternoods, staking or buying alts then it would be more realistic since that's what most enthusiast consider to be the difference forms of investing comparing to typically owning bitcoin.

Staking isn't that bad but a very risky form of investment especially when you don't carry out proper research and invest in a worthless shitcoins that's just been hyped and when that hypes dies down they give poor ROI as a result of the price of the coin declining massively. Also you should rethink the mode of staking your investing into as giving your coins to a third party or not owning the private key to the wallet the coins are been staked in is as foolish as storing your coins on an exchange.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 22, 2020, 03:30:24 AM

The open blockchain platform Harmony has announced that it will start supporting staking from now, in an effort to create a blockchain-based infrastructure.
source: https://www.harmony.one/
Of course, as I know, there are many exchanges that support staking.
I want to fully understand what is staking and what are the best coins and platforms that we can do staking and give good profits?

My most important question: Which is better, staking or investing?

If you hold the majority of staking power of a coin then I say staking is better or maybe if you want to hold that altcoin for long terms then staking can give you some extra return. But I always prefer investing in IEO or for a short period of time as it yields higher returns than any other method. But these days it has become tough to find a good project even with this many number of IEO rating websites as these websites have most probably started giving fake ratings to those who pay them nicely.

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I'd stay clear from places which asks to keep your funds for you and promise a % return over time, especially those connected with cryptocurrencies.

As for staking, you need to have a huge capital in order to get something that is substantial, or at least that can be considered as something 'worth it' for the time your coins were idle. Perhaps you may already know the concept that involves staking, and why it's a safe form of investment. The downside however is you would be relying on the profitability of the staked coin/asset itself and that it remains stable in the long run for your coins/asset would still be worth something.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 22, 2020, 05:01:41 AM

If you stake, you also invest because you'll buy the coin that you will stake.

Staking is a form of investment, the common things are the capital , time frame and return

Quote from: boyptc on June 22, 2020, 05:01:41 AM

And if you will stake, treat that investment as dead money of yours because returns there are not that big.

lol I bet you haven't done staking yet. It really depends on the project of what you are staking, some fails to commit to their investors because of poor handling, what's worst with staking if the project go fully dead that they can't even give back the capital of the investors. These two are great source of profit in the long run, they are both great when it takes so much time. But when it comes to availability, cryptocurrency investing is ahead than staking.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 22, 2020, 03:30:24 AM

My most important question: Which is better, staking or investing?

PoS coins gets created by staking. If sole usecase of a coin is staking then that sounds ponzi to me. It will end badly sooner or latter.

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Both are different and I think both should be applied as an investor here in crypto. You can invest in one coin and stake it! that alone will combine the two and will produce a better or worst result, that is going to be a double edge sword since some of the staking on exchange have a lock in period and you can't sell your coin on a specific price that you want.

And I just want to share that if you want a not so risky type of staking, I know that Crypto.com is offering a staking for Tether with 10% p.a interest

That is going to be a really good investment/staking passive income. And compare to real world banks then, that is a rock solid one.

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Both are good. There are several ways to have money in this world. Why not just try all of them so that you can have a better chance to earn money. If I were you, I would split my money into 2 parts and try both investing and staking. One for the long term and one for the short term earning. However, if you have just a small amount of money which you do not want to separate, I believe that investing is more suitable for you cause it can help you to earn more money in several months

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Quote from: shoreno on June 22, 2020, 05:34:11 AM

Quote from: boyptc on June 22, 2020, 05:01:41 AM

If you stake, you also invest because you'll buy the coin that you will stake.

And if you will stake, treat that investment as dead money of yours because returns there are not that big.

You invest into someone else and not investing on your own . I think that was risky and you said the returns are not that big enough but I heard this also take a long time . While in the case of investing a crypto you can freely choose a good coin and the coin can pump easily too but Staking is part of the block chain/crypto system so it's better that we both support them and not just support one side . we can invest most of our capital and few of it would be go for staking to help the development of new crypto projects .

In every investment risk associated so expect that. But with lower returns, the risk is minimal.

It's fair to say that we have to support those kinds of investments such as staking but the question is, are you staking? There are investors that prefer to stake but at the same time, they also hold. Understanding the concept of staking is needed because others are thinking that it's an easy and quick money. Well, it could be an easy money but it requires you decent amount of money.

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Quote from: Pamadar on June 23, 2020, 05:43:40 AM

Investing is always be my choice,i Have been in this market for years now and staking is not giving more benefits and besides most of my friends that into staking are now losers and converted their money into investing.
But it depend on the company you invested if they are stable enough to give good stakes.

Quote from: Botnake on June 23, 2020, 04:40:52 AM

First it's important to know what is the meaning of staking, otherwise, you'll fail with this type of investing.

Yes, I consider staking as investing because you stake your coin for a certain time to earn reward and you are not assured if the value of the coin will rise, if it falls, you will lose as regardless if your coins will increase but if its value will fall, it's still useless.

With that said, I think I'll choose the normal way of investing, not staking.

Exactly,Investing is still the safer way of putting our money inside crypto as long as we can afford to keep holding for a certain time and not greedy to look in easy money.

Actually if it's for long-term hold, staking would give more advantage to you as long as you believe that the coin you are staking with is good for long-term hold. Why? because when you are staking, you can grow your coin, just like investing in a casino's bankroll, and overtime as the project gets more successful, the price will eventually rise as well and that would be very rewarding in your end.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 22, 2020, 03:30:24 AM

The open blockchain platform Harmony has announced that it will start supporting staking from now, in an effort to create a blockchain-based infrastructure.
source: https://www.harmony.one/
Of course, as I know, there are many exchanges that support staking.
I want to fully understand what is staking and what are the best coins and platforms that we can do staking and give good profits?

My most important question: Which is better, staking or investing?

Investing is always be my choice,i Have been in this market for years now and staking is not giving more benefits and besides most of my friends that into staking are now losers and converted their money into investing.
But it depend on the company you invested if they are stable enough to give good stakes.

Quote from: Botnake on June 23, 2020, 04:40:52 AM

First it's important to know what is the meaning of staking, otherwise, you'll fail with this type of investing.

Yes, I consider staking as investing because you stake your coin for a certain time to earn reward and you are not assured if the value of the coin will rise, if it falls, you will lose as regardless if your coins will increase but if its value will fall, it's still useless.

With that said, I think I'll choose the normal way of investing, not staking.

Exactly,Investing is still the safer way of putting our money inside crypto as long as we can afford to keep holding for a certain time and not greedy to look in easy money.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 23, 2020, 04:40:52 AM

First it's important to know what is the meaning of staking, otherwise, you'll fail with this type of investing.

Yes, I consider staking as investing because you stake your coin for a certain time to earn reward and you are not assured if the value of the coin will rise, if it falls, you will lose as regardless if your coins will increase but if its value will fall, it's still useless.

With that said, I think I'll choose the normal way of investing, not staking.

is it the same as the master node? or the more coins you have, the more coins you can make each reward distributed. to be honest, I prefer investment as usual. some coins that have a system like that are very difficult to read the chart. however, investment, as usual, is easy to control and predict.

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First it's important to know what is the meaning of staking, otherwise, you'll fail with this type of investing.

Yes, I consider staking as investing because you stake your coin for a certain time to earn reward and you are not assured if the value of the coin will rise, if it falls, you will lose as regardless if your coins will increase but if its value will fall, it's still useless.

With that said, I think I'll choose the normal way of investing, not staking.

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