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legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
August 20, 2013, 11:56:52 PM

Thoughts?

Welcome to the forum ha-ha sometimes I see an interesting post in here
newbie
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August 20, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
Hi,

I'd like to post the following little research in the "Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Service Discussion". We did this together with @errge, so can you please lift the newbie restriction for me and for him too.



I don't want to speculate about the current situation at MtGox, but I wanted to share a little research about the recent big moves that we did together with @errge. It definitely made me think, and I didn't see this mentioned here before.

TL;DR The move on mtgoxUSD from 112 to 123 on Aug 19th was a result of a very few (about 15) very large (1000-2000 BTC) orders, which were done by a few (1-4) distinct individuals.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg5zczsg2013-08-18zeg2013-08-20ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

Here's how we determined this. MtGox publishes a feed of all transactions and if you look at the beginning of the first move, you see the following:

1376880909,111.999920000000,0.024069000000
1376880915,111.840100000000,0.193640000000
1376880956,111.840200000000,0.097470000000
1376880959,111.840200000000,0.010960000000
1376880984,111.999900000000,4.463718200000
1376880984,112.000000000000,4.945000000000
1376880984,112.699990000000,7.269893300000
1376880984,112.700000000000,0.031112900000
1376880984,112.700000000000,0.099900000000
1376880984,112.700000000000,5.000000000000
1376880984,112.700010000000,102.262969930000
1376880984,112.790170000000,1.330178290000
1376880984,112.992520000000,0.018122130000
1376880984,113.000030000000,1.000000000000
1376880985,113.238050000000,5.517000000000
1376880985,113.240000000000,0.883080180000


There is a transaction every few seconds and then at 1376880984 (= 2013-08-19 02:56:24 UTC) starts a long streak of transactions with an ever increasing price that immediately follow each other.

We made an assumption that this was a big "buy" order and what we see is it "eating its way up through the order book". This looked very plausible, so we wanted to see how big was the order and what was its limit price. So, I wrote a script that looks for streaks like that and aggregates them. This is what we got:

2013-08-19 02:56:24 UTC:      (156 ts in 6s) 2000.00 @ 114.49 BUY (min: 112.00, max: 114.91) big ts: ["102.26","99.59","98.20","97.00"]


Meaning: there were 156 transactions completed in 6 seconds, and if you add up the amounts you get exactly 2000 BTC. This can't be random! It was indeed one order of size 2000.
(The rest of the line is a weighted average price, the min and max price of the transactions and the amounts of a few biggest transactions within that streak.)

And immediately after that we get another one:
2013-08-19 02:56:31 UTC:      (111 ts in 4s) 1000.00 @ 114.97 BUY (min: 114.12, max: 115.00) big ts: ["100.00","87.22","86.19","84.48"]

Here's the order size was 1000 BTC and it ate through the asks till it got to the rich field @ 115.00 USD/BTC.

Well, without further ado, here's the full list:


2013-08-19 02:56:24 UTC:      (156 ts in 6s) 2000.00 @ 114.49 BUY (min: 112.00, max: 114.91) big ts: ["102.26","99.59","98.20","97.00"]
2013-08-19 02:56:31 UTC:      (111 ts in 4s) 1000.00 @ 114.97 BUY (min: 114.12, max: 115.00) big ts: ["100.00","87.22","86.19","84.48"]
2013-08-19 02:57:32 UTC:      (28 ts in 1s) 1500.00 @ 115.00 BUY (min: 114.70, max: 115.00) big ts: ["1293.75","90.00","43.57","30.72"]
2013-08-19 02:59:40 UTC:      (42 ts in 2s) 1433.72 @ 115.00 BUY (min: 114.70, max: 115.00) big ts: ["946.69","177.43","145.00","24.00"]
2013-08-19 03:10:35 UTC:      (198 ts in 6s) 1000.00 @ 116.48 BUY (min: 116.21, max: 116.95) big ts: ["222.80","117.17","52.76","44.68"]
2013-08-19 03:11:40 UTC:      (250 ts in 9s) 1000.00 @ 117.30 BUY (min: 116.95, max: 117.80) big ts: ["154.00","100.00","79.69","40.00"]
2013-08-19 05:32:01 UTC:      (172 ts in 7s) 1000.00 @ 117.94 BUY (min: 117.20, max: 118.40) big ts: ["112.94","100.00","96.53","78.30"]
2013-08-19 05:32:19 UTC:      (111 ts in 4s) 1000.00 @ 118.68 BUY (min: 118.05, max: 119.00) big ts: ["400.00","110.00","90.50","69.12"]
2013-08-19 05:32:54 UTC:      (91 ts in 4s) 1000.00 @ 119.00 BUY (min: 116.78, max: 119.08) big ts: ["152.13","150.00","147.55","74.95"]
2013-08-19 05:33:05 UTC:      (125 ts in 4s) 814.90 @ 119.38 BUY (min: 119.08, max: 119.73) big ts: ["100.00","99.00","83.62","79.00"]
2013-08-19 05:34:52 UTC:      (198 ts in 9s) 1000.00 @ 119.91 BUY (min: 117.50, max: 120.00) big ts: ["160.00","100.00","78.90","67.00"]
2013-08-19 06:37:50 UTC:      (240 ts in 10s) 1458.41 @ 119.95 BUY (min: 118.95, max: 120.00) big ts: ["100.92","100.00","100.00","59.64"]
2013-08-19 07:47:45 UTC:      (171 ts in 6s) 750.00 @ 121.11 BUY (min: 120.28, max: 121.79) big ts: ["150.00","50.00","39.23","30.78"]
2013-08-19 07:50:58 UTC:      (265 ts in 9s) 1250.00 @ 122.15 BUY (min: 120.38, max: 122.76) big ts: ["148.51","129.95","127.90","90.15"]
2013-08-19 07:52:29 UTC:      (104 ts in 4s) 406.50 @ 122.84 BUY (min: 122.50, max: 123.00) big ts: ["89.33","72.41","52.03","25.87"]
2013-08-19 07:53:36 UTC:      (179 ts in 7s) 837.36 @ 123.12 BUY (min: 122.78, max: 123.56) big ts: ["102.14","67.92","51.42","49.60"]


Most of these are very round, indicating that indeed we found one exact order that was completely filled. For the non-round ones my guess is that they actually emptied the order book up to the given limit price and were not filled immediately. The proof for this is that we can sometimes find follow-up transactions matching in price which if are added to the streak give a round number.

Altogether these giant orders add up to about 17500 BTC, which is a considerable part of transaction volume during that period. And all the upward price moves happened within them.

We don't know whether all these whales are from the same person. But, based on the timing, I would say it's no more than 4 different players.

Interestingly we found two big sells too (and only two):

2013-08-19 09:56:14 UTC:      (24 ts in 2s) 589.56 @ 120.09 SELL (min: 120.00, max: 122.00) big ts: ["274.83","100.00","60.00","30.00"]
2013-08-19 09:57:26 UTC:      (3 ts in 0s) 659.28 @ 120.00 SELL (min: 120.00, max: 121.89) big ts: ["659.26","0.01","0.01"]

Or, actually, I think this is only one order, because together with the small ones in between them, they add up to exactly 1250.

Thoughts?
member
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August 20, 2013, 01:11:35 AM
Hello,

I would like to offer something new to the Bitcoin community in a few days ( you can check domain in my email address).
It is a new thing that I am going to announce, that is why I registered this name to be recognized in the future.

Please whitelisted me to have permission create a post in Marketplace 

Your sincerely,
Antana
newbie
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August 19, 2013, 10:00:39 AM
hello,

i've signed up to the forum around 2 years ago but didn't use it much. i have a good understanding of bitcoin. i need to contact a user here with PM. could you please remove the newbie restriction?

thanks
newbie
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August 19, 2013, 09:40:52 AM
Hello,

I'm a collaborator for Bitcoin Venezuela, I own a few mining rigs, and a degree on Economics; I've been registered in this forum for a while, but haven't been logged on my account. I would like to be promoted from newbie to something with more privileges. Thanks in advance.
full member
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August 19, 2013, 04:25:52 AM
keep it up, you'll escape eventually Smiley
newbie
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August 19, 2013, 12:45:25 AM
Now I really know there is something wrong..  This posted for me but the other ones I posted in the other newbie thread didnt?   =/  So I need a mod for some help at least.


I am requesting to be whitelisted. 

I am only new in the fact that I haven't posted or replied to anyone until today.  I have been in and out on this site for months now.  Just never had a desire to post anything...  Weird as I am usually pretty vocal about other forum sites.

I DID post a post in newbies but its NOT showing up.  The system had some errors posting it as well.  Now it says I already posted this post.  As well, I have been in and out of this site for the past 4 months. It beriddles me why the time logged in clock ONLY says 1 hour and 28 minutes.  I learned almost all I know from the site about bitcoins.  As well, I have the experience to prove it. 

I have mined 1.14 Bitcoin and 15 Litecoin with my mining rig which happens to be a:

Intel Dual Core CPU
ASUS MAX 4 EXTREME
16GB RAM
120 GB SSD
850W PWR SPLY
and what really matters:  2 X 7970s

I have a third 7970 on standby but the CURRENT power supply is not efficient enough to power it.  As well, the 7970's cooling pretty much sucks heat more than blows it.  So I need to water cool it.  So with all THAT, I need a bigger case and I might as well go for the biggest CPU in the band for that board while I am going to watercool the rig.   

I made a few bitcoin news videos on YouTube under firefly4322.  Check them out.  They are rather old news now though...

Thought it may be not worth it anymore I am going to be getting a set of USB Block Eruptors and just let them go.  See how far they get.  I am really having fun with it all.  Its even got me back into PC Gaming which I have been out of the loop for quite some time now. 

Well that is all I have for now!  Hope you consider me for whitelisting.  Thanks for your assistance!   



newbie
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August 19, 2013, 12:32:42 AM
I am requesting to be whitelisted. 

I am only new in the fact that I haven't posted or replied to anyone until today.  I have been in and out on this site for months now.  Just never had a desire to post anything...  Weird as I am usually pretty vocal about other forum sites.

I DID post a post in newbies but its NOT showing up.  The system had some errors posting it as well.  Now it says I already posted this post.  As well, I have been in and out of this site for the past 4 months. It beriddles me why the time logged in clock ONLY says 1 hour and 28 minutes.  I learned almost all I know from the site about bitcoins.  As well, I have the experience to prove it. 

I have mined 1.14 Bitcoin and 15 Litecoin with my mining rig which happens to be a:

Intel Dual Core CPU
ASUS MAX 4 EXTREME
16GB RAM
120 GB SSD
850W PWR SPLY
and what really matters:  2 X 7970s

I have a third 7970 on standby but the CURRENT power supply is not efficient enough to power it.  As well, the 7970's cooling pretty much sucks heat more than blows it.  So I need to water cool it.  So with all THAT, I need a bigger case and I might as well go for the biggest CPU in the band for that board while I am going to watercool the rig.   

I made a few bitcoin news videos on YouTube under firefly4322.  Check them out.  They are rather old news now though...

Thought it may be not worth it anymore I am going to be getting a set of USB Block Eruptors and just let them go.  See how far they get.  I am really having fun with it all.  Its even got me back into PC Gaming which I have been out of the loop for quite some time now. 

Well that is all I have for now!  Hope you consider me for whitelisting.  Thanks for your assistance!   


newbie
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August 17, 2013, 01:19:49 AM
Hello,

I am an electrical and mechanical engineer consulting with a group of ASIC buyers on developing and implementing new mining electronics and hardware.  I would like to be able to contribute to the technical discussions that are in progress in the Custom Hardware forum, and to ask questions from the knowledgeable members of the community.  

Here is a link to my Linked In profile for reference: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=186660198

Thank you for your consideration.

Darin
full member
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Bean Cash - More Than a Digital Currency!
August 16, 2013, 12:59:47 PM
Please white list me...  I usually come to the forum, for what I need to know, and go... So I only have about 2.25 hours logged... Read this forum for months before something came up that just direly needed my reply, Cheesy so I registered only to find I could only post in Newbie land... Huh  I have been mining and trading with Bitcoin for several months.  

Thank you!


EDIT:  Something changed while I was typing this....  Maybe it took me 2 hours to type!  LOL  I see now I am Junior Member.  Thanks!
member
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Merit: 10
August 16, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Please whitelist.

Hanging (even registered) around here already while, and most of the time can't post something.
This time i want to announce some QRK-reated stuff.
If you need someone who speeks for me, just PM https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/max-guevara-138988 or https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/guido-96650

Thanks
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 16, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Wanting to post a query on the BTCGuild mining thread about why http://port80.btcguild.com/ now redirects to https://www.btcguild.com/ and whether it's going to get reverted.

newbie
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Merit: 0
August 16, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
Hi, I have an electrum server btc.it-zone.org and I want to report some bugs on electrum subforum.

cheers!
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 16, 2013, 03:24:44 AM
I want to request to get whitelisted,
I had been while on this forum but just decided to register in here, I silent reading most of time.
And I'm also working on translation for Bitcoin.org and here is my profile link :

https://www.transifex.com/accounts/profile/luke137/

Thank you in advance.
legendary
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Merit: 1031
RIP Mommy
August 14, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kasperov-61782 is requesting whitelisting. AFAIK he runs https://www.facebook.com/WinBTC and is http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=moarrr&sign=ANY&type=RECV , authed as such when he asked me to help.

I said: "did you ask to be let out of newb jail yet?"
He said: "nope, i cant post at all, the forums bugged... keeps saying someones posted from my ip 360 seconds ago"
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
August 13, 2013, 08:00:20 PM
I am requesting whitelist access.

Reasoning: I have been a small scale miner since January 2012 and have been accessing the publically available forum pages for some time now. I have only recently signed up and believe I can assist the community with my hardware and network knowledge - as well as learning and integrating more with alternative crypto-currencies.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
August 13, 2013, 06:29:31 PM
Please whitelist me. I've been very interested in cryptocurrency throughout the years and have been involved in mining off and on. I signed up so that I could participate in discussion surrounding the economics of mining and participate in group buys of ASIC miners. Thanks!
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 13, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
Hi,
I would like to request to be able to reply to and PM CanaryInTheMine since I just purchased seven USBs from him
I want to make sure he got my order okay. I have paid the required BTC already.
I understand how to use bitcoin clients and how to mine, buy, sell and trade using BTC.
Thanks!
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
August 13, 2013, 02:17:27 PM
Hi everyone,

I would like to request whitelisting because: I'd like to be able to post on other subjects, like Gambling, new websites, i am also a huge bitcoin lover and i hope to buy some more.
I  have a BTC mining rig and i would like to help other persons that also want one.

Thanks,
Tymer.
hero member
Activity: 618
Merit: 500
a clockwork miner
August 13, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
Hi all,

I am a long time lurker and now I need to send a PM to a forum member.
If someone could whitelist me would be great, if not I will check again in a couple of hours.

Thank you anyway! Smiley
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