Topic: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? - page 24. (Read 7009 times)

Trump and "smarter" is something I don't think I can say that I've thought very often.  The truth is it absolutely does not matter what Trump does, his strongest supporters will back him up no matter what he says or does, legal or illegal.  It's sad really, the fact that we've come to this as a country, that we allow these criminal politicians to basically do whatever they want.  He wouldn't have been arrested if he didn't do anything wrong, let along arrested 4 times. 

I am of the opinion all politicians are lying scumbags, left and right.  Trump is no exception.

The polls may show Trump winning the Republican nomination, but it's not like his competition is anyting great.  That's the problem for the Republican and Democratic parties, they have no spine...it's all about who's got the best change to win, not who's the best person for the job. 

They lack leadership, that's the problem. Think of Republicans like a cult, they do not care about "who" at the top could be, they do not have ideology (do not talk to me about family values, they elected a president who paid a pornstar a silence money from campaign money and stole nuclear information of his own nation) they have nothing but a cult system who worship whoever is at the top.

It doesn't have to be Trump, tomorrow it could be someone else and they will worship that, the idea is "whoever is not democrat, is a god" and they keep voting for the person who is the republican candidate no matter how terrible that person can be, you can put in OJ Simpson as the Republican candidate and he will get 60+ million votes just because he is the republican candidate.

It depends whom you ask whether Trump is a successful businessman or not, I have seen people around internet saying that he has lost much of the fortune he inherited from his father and the only good thing he has left is real state. Anyways, it does not matter much in this context, because the marketing/political move he has done with his own mugshot seems to have already given him some millions of dollars, which is much more than the bond he was set to pay at court this week, so he can continue to roam around the country.

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Source: https://www.dw.com/en/us-trump-campaign-raises-over-7-million-since-mug-shot/a-66640224

Joe Biden can't for real get 4 more years as a president of the United States? I am not so involved in American politics, but the old man can't even bicycle and speak proper, would it not be better for America to have someone else as a president? Is people voting for Biden just because they dislike Trump?

Maybe this time it will be a better option then both of them.
But if I did put my money they would be on Trump. I just cant see the Americans giving J Biden 4 more years...

Trump gained more supporters as he became the 4x champ of this indictment. Many of these supporters see these indictments as election intervention to stop him from running. Yep, they are paying attention for this is how badly they played the game. They wouldn't just leave Trump to win and be vindicated so they wanna put him in a cell.

But the man is just smarter and does have money to fight back. The polls are showing Trump winning and even DeSantis or Ramaswamy has no chance of stopping it.

I find it really surprising that the Republicans keep holding on to Trump given all these lawsuits against him. It's true that it feels like a witch hunt right now and it could rally more of his followers to close the ranks and support him more. But the real question is how many of the swing candidates are being convinced to join the Republican or Democratic vote. In the case of Trump losing his lawsuits I think that it would lead to more people abandoning him than following him. For the Republican party it seems as abet on the lawsuits and hoping that Trump won't lose them. In the end all it would take is one bad selected Jury and the dream of Trump winning another election is over. For the Democrats it doesn't seem any better though, with Biden being so old all it takes is a few medical issues and he couldn't a second time. It's hard to place any serious bet right now on the next president, because so many things could happen that change the picture completely.

It is true that Trump is a big name and he will definitely get a lot of views no matter what he does, he could start the whole apprentice or whatever show again and he would get a lot more views now then he ever did back in the day, because he used to be the president. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the candidate for the GOP, he could be in trouble right now with the law but that doesn't mean that it's going to be that easy to handle, we are talking about something bigger.

We should be realizing that it's not going to be that much available situation for me and I think it should be just too obvious to me. He will be the candidate and there is a good chance he will also lose again because of who he is, not who his opponent is.

After all, he is a successful businessman. He knows how to stay in limelight. It is very clear that his experiment with Truth Social had failed. Social media users are mostly young, and few of them have a solid political inclination. Trump was hoping that all of the conservative users may follow his lead and dump Twitter for Truth Social. But that never happened. Twitter users want a mix of different topics and not just Trump-related news. And those who joined Truth Social are mostly hardcore Trump supporters and there will be no net addition for GOP. In order to gain new support, it is essential for Trump to stay in neutral platforms like Twitter.

Wow, this forum has given a lot to talk about , I really see it as very Normal even if it is Something that can scare someone, but at the same time it seems very funny to me because there are many who have made many messages with that , I don't know if this is another of his good tsetrageigas so that he can attract more people and more Followers , and thus Manage to Convince People that he is a good candidate and that they support him, but in truth the things that this man invents are very Innovative, however, seeing that this being is a very strong candidate, and obviously I have always said so, if Trump comes to have everything to be the presidential candidate, he will be very Competitive with any Opponent , not because of what he did, apart from the fact that he wants to dethrone Biden , because I know he must have an Internal "pique" that he wants to get rid of, in addition to the fact that many times he has attacked Biden too much for the way the country is leading, and also he criticizes him a lot because he has allowed the war Between Russia and Ukraine, so this type of thing is what he can carry out in Particular to base his candidacy, but when he is sure as a Presidential candidate, at this time his situation is very unstable, because We don't know if they are going to put him in jail or if he wants to do something else, some say that he wants to turn himself in, but a person like Trump who is going to turn himself in at this point , I don't think he will make that Decision , he also has many followers who Accompany him.

Now, it is difficult, because the people in the USA are very biased and I think this is something that should be studied by states, if he obtains the greatest acceptance in Florida, I think he could call himself president, but otherwise I think it would be a very controversial contest. strong, also people like they want him to face Biden again, some are so angry with Trump that they don't want to see him even in paint , but it all depends on how the country wants to see or have things, it all depends on Lop politicians who are going to do it to Trump.

I was not expecting to see Trump back in Twitter, to be honest. I must admit that the timing was genius on his part, he managed to catch much of the attention by himself posting his own mugshot. He is trying to turn something must of us would perceive as negative into a tool for his political career.
I have my doubts he will come back to Twitter as the old days before Jan 6, he has already compromised with Truth Social, though, after seeing such numbers and support from people who are wearing his mugshot as a shirt, he could feel tempted to become a regular Twitter user again.

It was one of the things which characterized his run for the presidency back in 2016, after all. It may be one of his ace in the hole.

I'd say, it's possible, but the probability of that is low, and it becomes lower day after day. Look, it's lower today than it was when I made my last post.



Is it a tendency? Will we see something as 1.50 for Biden and like 5.00 for Trump? Will Trump supporters still be saying Trump's winning even then?

The idea is to prevent him from running. That is the message I get when I analyze the strategy from the Democrat party. And to be honest, I don't know how this will turn out. There is not enough opinion poll information to know whether Trump is going to benefit from all this drama or not. And as I have mentioned many times in the past, the POTUS election results are very dependent on what is going on in the swing states. So I want to know whether voters in swing states such as AZ, PA, GA and NV sympathize with Trump or not.

It is such a strange thing this election.

We have mugshots of a candidate for president of the US. I think Trump will end up being elected president while in jail.

There must be someone already preparing a movie about this, I'm sure.

^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

Republican primary debate was last night, you can familiarize yourself with the participants: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/who-are-the-candidates-in-the-first-gop-primary-debate

Some candidates are not even worth mentioning, the only major players were DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Pence, and Haley. Trump, obviously, was absent. Instead, he elected to do an "X" interview with Tucker Carlson here amassing over 200M impressions thus far: www.x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1694513603251241143

I consider the winner of a primary debate to be someone who increases their chance of being the nominee for that party, and as such there was actually no winner of this debate. Trump sits 30-40 points ahead of every candidate, and no particular candidate had a stellar performance that would lend himself or herself to taking the Republican nominee from Trump.

That being said, Ramaswamy stood out the most. He's charismatic and a good debater. He took the most attacks from other candidates and was able to respond efficiently. DeSantis, despite not being attacked, came out rather flat with many rehearsed lines. His conservative record is impressive, but he isn't a great politician. I see Ramaswamy surging slightly in the odds eating away at DeSantis's lead.

If Trump was president, Russia would have taken over parts of Ukraine already. How do I know this? Well lets see, a president that calls Putin his friend, and got dirty laundered money from deutsche bank that has Russian mafia money, and got donated by Russian American as a consideration of election rigging, and whole campaign was blamed to be Russian interference and then there is the point of him constantly saying there shouldn't be this much money sent over to Ukraine and it is not their business.

This means that yeah USA would be doing better, but then Russia would be taking over without a doubt, without help from USA , Ukraine would have done nothing. This is why it should be important to remember that it is not going to be smart to elect Trump.

I would disagree. Biden hasn't done anything exceptional. Trump did a great job in bringing the economy back to a state of good health during his term (2016-2020). There was a temporary slide in 2020-21 as a result of then pandemic, but the economy achieved a natural recovery after that. The strong state of economy continued for 2022-23, but some of the economic policies by Biden did great deal of damage. Biggest blunder was the cancellation of Keystone XL pipeline and prohibition of fracking in federal lands. Crude oil prices increased by 2x immediately after that.

Also, there must be people who voted for him and like him as a personality, but after seeing the legal problems and the crimes he has allegedly committed in New York and in Georgia, some of his supporters may stay home and not vote. The Republican political propaganda is very focused on Biden's administration being a disaster, and that message is directed to both die-hars Trump supporters and the average Republican who just want the party to go back to what it used to be some years ago.

Biden is not a perfect politician but despite his age and the economical situation the pandemic put the USA through, he has managed to get numbers to show off. The so called Bidenomics.

It is obvious that even though Trump makes some people go out and vote for him, which is any president would want since all they need would be votes, but also causes a lot of people to vote whoever is against him.

I mean it's not just about making Biden be the most voted person in history of USA elections ever, that was a record breaking number of people who voted for Biden and that was just people who voted against Trump, there is a difference there. On top of that anyone who supported ended up losing as well, look at what Georgia governor did after getting elected again. This is why it's quite clear that we are going to end up with a lot of hatred towards Trump that beats out the love for him and the results will be clear.

Lots of fights going on between supporters of Ramaswamy and DeSantis in the Republican primary. DeSantis supporters have launched a tirade against Ramaswamy, accusing him of not being in sync with the GOP support base (which is predominantly white evangelical Christian). It is very strange that we have a colored Hindu (Ramaswamy) running for the GOP primary, and a anti-vaxxer (Kennedy) running in the Democrat primary. They should ideally swap their parties. BTW, latest polls show DeSantis pulling ahead of Ramaswamy, which suggests that ads from DeSantis targeting his opponent's religion is having a big impact.