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August 13, 2023, 01:10:19 PM
I saw them tied according to the New York Times poll from last week. Both had 43%.
It's amazing that so many people are willing to vote for these two and not for someone new. Biden is barely doing anything and sleeps on debates. He's too old for this job.
Trump was involved in riots, so he's not really a clean and honest guy to vote for. I'd say that he's better than Biden, but not as good as Kennedy. I guess that's because I'm a libertarian so both Trump and Biden feel like going from bad to worse.

I hope that trump gets convicted and loses votes and Biden just resigns citing old age and the board gets wiped.

In the United States, they have a two-party system. There are fringe candidates from parties such as Libertarians and Greens, but they hardly get more than 1-2% of the total vote. And by now it is almost confirmed that Trump and Biden will be the nominees from their respective parties. It is going to be a repeat of 2016 and 2020, when the voters were forced to chose a candidate who is less evil. Kennedy and DeSantis maybe better choices for the voters, but the problem is that these two can never win the nomination as the presidential candidates.

This still is strange to me that people who support one party or the other (even if all they see is these two sides) vote for their party's candidate even if that candidate is a disgrace to the country.
Biden is nothing more than an old man who doesn't make his own decisions but rather is a face of the White House and he fails even at that by falling and forgetting what he wanted to say.
If I were a democrat, which I'm not, I'd be ashamed of the man who represents my party.
As an undecided voter, I'd have a hard choice between someone who may not live to see the next election, or someone who had a role in riot and did not want to give up power.
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August 13, 2023, 12:21:28 PM
Biden took every wrong step in the book. Ruined the economy, started a war, went full woke... People in the US are fed up with his bullshit. People don't care about a war in the other continent. They don't want to send money to a Ukrainan guy which they don't know or care about.

People want lower oil prices, a peaceful life where illegal immigrants don't exist and a life where men and women get along well.

But people in the US failed this IQ test before so it is not impossible for Biden to win again.

I think it always happens, it is a variable that is difficult to decipher before, when a public official is elected and it is he who represents the intentions of the majority, in my opinion there were two such bad candidates that their choice by the voters was the best of the worst.

 On the other hand, I assure you that it is something very different to support a war and another is to send help to anyone who needs it in a war, I do not understand what you are saying and you are wrong in that thought, fortunately most do not think like that, but we would be reverent shit as a society, what is the fault of that boy in Ukraine for not receiving help from the United States.
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August 13, 2023, 12:17:31 AM
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The election in '24 will come down to Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Minnesota and Maine are not relevant, they will go democrat. FL will go Republican, NC will highly likely go Republican, so those two states are out of play too.

A candidate holding any degree of momentum will generally take most of the aforementioned states so you can look at all these states collectively. I don't see Trump winning a single swing state. Arizona and Georgia in particular were embarrassing losses for Trump in 2020, likely to be repeated in '24.

There's still a lot of time for the election, and in politics many things can happen.

The whole Trump saga might advance to a point where he is in jail by that time. That will probably affect a lot the numbers, and who knows in which direction.

These things are a bit random, and you can't really predict what people will vote in a few months.
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August 12, 2023, 08:30:39 PM
I was looking at the 2020 aggregate betting odds and Biden had rather significant shot at winning: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/writeup/us_presidential_election_live_betting_odds.html

Keep in mind, that election came down to something like 50k votes spread across a few swing states.

Similarly, the 2016 election had Clinton up even greater: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2016_president/

That election played the same scenario. IMO the final odds for the 2020 election were giving Biden too much credit.

I've been following the Republican primarily day by day closely, and it's my opinion that DeSantis does not have enough to win the primary. Given Trump wins, I'm expecting the electoral map will look the same in '24 as it did in '20, with Biden winning by a small margin across a few swing states.

It is the changing demography in a few states that gave Biden the upper hand in the end. Unlike what most of us believe, the POTUS elections are not decided by all the 50 states. Rather, the outcome is solely dependent on a few swing states. These states are - Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Minnesota and Maine. These 10 states decide the outcome of the elections. It is almost like the other 40 states are not participating in the elections. And Biden has an advantage in many of these states due to changing demographics.

The election in '24 will come down to Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Minnesota and Maine are not relevant, they will go democrat. FL will go Republican, NC will highly likely go Republican, so those two states are out of play too.

A candidate holding any degree of momentum will generally take most of the aforementioned states so you can look at all these states collectively. I don't see Trump winning a single swing state. Arizona and Georgia in particular were embarrassing losses for Trump in 2020, likely to be repeated in '24.
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August 12, 2023, 07:01:03 PM
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Yeah, but, do they really want to be responsible for electing someone like Trump for President of the United States? Some of them, yes, but most people use their head, fortunately. Even if they are Republicans, even if they used to support Trump in the past, thay are not going to support him now.

Donald Trump was already elected president of the US one time. That clearly means that it can happen again, easily.

The US is a very divided country, and this election can really go either way.

Was he prosecuted at the time? I don't think so. And it's a big difference. And it's not Russia, where you can be prosecuted only because you have entered the presidential race. It's America. The charges against Trump are serious: "a conspiracy to violate civil rights, a conspiracy to defraud the government, the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding and a conspiracy to carry out such obstruction."

And people follow the news. They discover things they didn't know in 2016. Here's what Google is giving today:



Do you still think Trump can win?

He still can. Because he has trained his voting base to ignore, not pay attention or even care of the serious charges he is being accused of. There are even people who still believe that 2020 was a fraudulent election, it does not matter what evidence one can show. In their minds, this is all about a secret battle between the deep state and the savior Trump, and the Republican polling shows it.

In the end, all will come down to whether the moderade Republican base will choose reason over Trump's political aspirations.
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August 12, 2023, 06:04:56 PM
Biden took every wrong step in the book. Ruined the economy, started a war, went full woke... People in the US are fed up with his bullshit. People don't care about a war in the other continent. They don't want to send money to a Ukrainan guy which they don't know or care about.

People want lower oil prices, a peaceful life where illegal immigrants don't exist and a life where men and women get along well.

But people in the US failed this IQ test before so it is not impossible for Biden to win again.

I don't find this very surprising. Democrats are supposed to do whatever you have listed above. Biden is doing exactly what Obama did during his two terms in 2008-16. Economy was not doing that great when Obama's term ended in 2016. US achieved good economic growth only when Donald Trump came to power in 2016. But poor handling of the COVID pandemic resulted in his defeat during the 2020 elections. And now, it is difficult to predict who will win in 2024. Initially Trump was having an advantage, but according to recent opinion polls Biden seems to be catching up.

Well things in the USA Sound very bad , I don't understand things very well when they are treated due to a very radical economy, Biden I Understand that if he has Allowed many Wars to take place in the world, he does not control that, I do not see a gigantic force like The USA must have it, however I see it with a much more Calm Attitude , what I do know is that once the Price of oil Falls it is very Easy, you just have to end the war between Ukraine and Russia , and Russia Just by Uncovering a bit of the oil that it has Retained there , it is Possible to lower the price of oil to 1 usd, what happens is that these things go a lot here, the business model that is Armed with a very big War, some They lose in wars, but everyone wins in a big way, that is the reality of this, also in politics things change very abruptly, we do not know who is with whom in reality, I am sure that attacking the war and ending it fixes that What I can take Away from this about Biden is that he is Fighting to Lower the Level of Inflation , According to a documentary I Saw, they said that the easiest way is by 2024 and that they had to Apply the bond policies in the banks, which I don't see it well either.

When we are talking about a Government where it has Been with these problems , the US economy is Expensive , I understand that at least for now a migrant must have $2k a month to pay for their residence and services, and in this time when it is very hot , since the cost of electricity is increased by the use of Air, then life in this country is expensive.

Does a change of government lower the cost of living at this time? Would it put an end to that rampant inflation that exists in the USA? I think it's difficult, on the other hand, the Popularity of Trump and Biden may be on par, but from what I've seen from the Others that so many accusations are being made against Trump, I don't know if this ultimately helps or hurts this Candidate As far as I'm Concerned , I think that instead of Harming it, it helps him to gain more Followers.
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August 12, 2023, 04:49:33 AM
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Yeah, but, do they really want to be responsible for electing someone like Trump for President of the United States? Some of them, yes, but most people use their head, fortunately. Even if they are Republicans, even if they used to support Trump in the past, thay are not going to support him now.

Donald Trump was already elected president of the US one time. That clearly means that it can happen again, easily.

The US is a very divided country, and this election can really go either way.

Was he prosecuted at the time? I don't think so. And it's a big difference. And it's not Russia, where you can be prosecuted only because you have entered the presidential race. It's America. The charges against Trump are serious: "a conspiracy to violate civil rights, a conspiracy to defraud the government, the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding and a conspiracy to carry out such obstruction."

And people follow the news. They discover things they didn't know in 2016. Here's what Google is giving today:



Do you still think Trump can win?
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August 11, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Biden took every wrong step in the book. Ruined the economy, started a war, went full woke... People in the US are fed up with his bullshit. People don't care about a war in the other continent. They don't want to send money to a Ukrainan guy which they don't know or care about.

People want lower oil prices, a peaceful life where illegal immigrants don't exist and a life where men and women get along well.

But people in the US failed this IQ test before so it is not impossible for Biden to win again.

I think you are rather getting a little bit extreme with how bad the economy is in the United States and the importance of the support for Ukraine.
It is not okey for a big country to invade a neighbor, specially without an actual declaration of war and using an euphemism to mask what is going on, sure the American people is not supposed to fund a war going in the opposite part of the world; the conflict would be better handled by a  multi national organization, like United Nations.

Also, when we talk to wokeness, I believe it is very subjective what it actually means to each one of us. There are people who even struggle to explain what wokeness is.

Let us face the truth, every country has problems, but Trump is not the panacea to those problems.

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August 11, 2023, 09:48:56 AM
Biden took every wrong step in the book. Ruined the economy, started a war, went full woke... People in the US are fed up with his bullshit. People don't care about a war in the other continent. They don't want to send money to a Ukrainan guy which they don't know or care about.

People want lower oil prices, a peaceful life where illegal immigrants don't exist and a life where men and women get along well.

But people in the US failed this IQ test before so it is not impossible for Biden to win again.

I don't find this very surprising. Democrats are supposed to do whatever you have listed above. Biden is doing exactly what Obama did during his two terms in 2008-16. Economy was not doing that great when Obama's term ended in 2016. US achieved good economic growth only when Donald Trump came to power in 2016. But poor handling of the COVID pandemic resulted in his defeat during the 2020 elections. And now, it is difficult to predict who will win in 2024. Initially Trump was having an advantage, but according to recent opinion polls Biden seems to be catching up.
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August 11, 2023, 12:17:17 AM
Biden took every wrong step in the book. Ruined the economy, started a war, went full woke... People in the US are fed up with his bullshit. People don't care about a war in the other continent. They don't want to send money to a Ukrainan guy which they don't know or care about.

People want lower oil prices, a peaceful life where illegal immigrants don't exist and a life where men and women get along well.

But people in the US failed this IQ test before so it is not impossible for Biden to win again.
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August 10, 2023, 11:38:10 PM
There was a "little" intervention that was caught, and not just caught but officially done, there was really no hiding or anything like that, but I do not think that it was really the reason Trump won, it was democrat's poor performance for sure.

The intervention that everyone already knew was that Trump got money from Russians, as in donations and it's not illegal, you can find a Russian-American, with an American citizenship, who can get any money she wanted from Russia, that part is not illegal, someone from Russia can easily send money to some American citizen basically, even if they are Russian origin. Then that person started a business, and as we all know citizens united vs government, that companies can donate, and this Russian-American citizen put all that money she got into Trump campaign. That's the only thing, but I doubt that was the reason he won of course, it's just a shady thing, but fully legal.
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August 09, 2023, 10:19:59 PM
I Don't want to bet for US government election because many survey institutions will open survey result then everyone will know what will happen.

Actually, that is not how it actually works.
Take as an example the last mind-term elections, back then it was assumed that the Republican party would be able to retake both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The so called Red Wave, which in the end turned out to be a red puddle, which barely took over the House of Representatives.

What I am trying to say is that we cannot blindly trust on that polls say, because either they can be biased with the information they gather or their sample of the American population is not even big enough to offer information on an actual electoral outcome.

They use statistics, not magic.

I am not sure about how to interpret what happened during the 2022 mid-terms. My argument is that the polls were accurate, but in the last week or so Democrats made a lot of traction and Republicans lost out. There were certain issues such as right to abortion which were used by the Democrats to increase the turnout of their supporters at the last minute. Republicans were somewhat complacent, as they were thinking that they are going to sweep the Senate and House. Senate losses in Georgia, Nevada, Arizona and Pennsylvania were unexpected. Alaska was also a loss for them, although Murkowski was elected. And Republicans were expected to put up tough fights in Oregon (Smiley) and Colorado (O'Dea), but it never got realized.
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August 09, 2023, 12:02:57 PM
I Don't want to bet for US government election because many survey institutions will open survey result then everyone will know what will happen.

Actually, that is not how it actually works.
Take as an example the last mind-term elections, back then it was assumed that the Republican party would be able to retake both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The so called Red Wave, which in the end turned out to be a red puddle, which barely took over the House of Representatives.

What I am trying to say is that we cannot blindly trust on that polls say, because either they can be biased with the information they gather or their sample of the American population is not even big enough to offer information on an actual electoral outcome.

They use statistics, not magic.
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August 08, 2023, 09:52:09 PM
I Don't want to bet for US government election because many survey institutions will open survey result then everyone will know what will happen. And i thonk Russia will play big game and there will happen a impact in US government election. After all some people will bet but i am not interested about it. Although USA is big democratic country. People will give vote to elected leader. But there will play big game i think. Overall i wish there will be transparent vote. And a good man will be elected as a President. Because USA is Leading country all over the world. And i think Such a president will come like Jo Biden, Barak Obama who will serve US People's rights properly.

LOL.. the so called Russian intervention is just an excuse for the poor performance of the Democrat party. If Russia had intervened in the elections, then where is the proof for this? And if Russia is in fact able to intervene, then what does that tell about the election system in the United States? Democrats are in trouble because of their own mistakes. They continue to rally behind criminals such as Hunter Biden and the current administration is busy spending money on foreign interventions rather than taking care of the issues back home. 
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August 08, 2023, 09:19:40 AM

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~ Well, things are currently Getting tough for Trump because the Classified and Nuclear files have put him in a very bad position, and this has made him Waste time dating and Different social media outlets are not Making him look very Well, I don't really know how biased the USA is towards those who have always Supported Trump, I don't know if his same political enemies are doing him harm or a favor on a political level, I don't know if this is so, in South America politics tends to be a bit more frontier and things are said at once, they are not so rollicking, but I see that politics in the USA is managed through a lot of power, accusation systems in court, demands that act at once to prosecute, of many things that can put anyone in trouble.
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Exactly. People watch TV, they following the news, don't they. His indictment contains four counts: "conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights."  Who wants to have such a president?

Well, the things that I have seen always go along the same lines, they go down a path where they go with violence, on the one hand they protect peace, but on the other hand there is war, I don't know when things can have a Balance, things in international Politics have always pointed out that every decision that is made in the USA with respect to a president , that will give the turn and direction towards where things in the country are going to go, in terms of Economy , wars, all kinds of social events worldwide, which countries will be allies , which ones will not, anyone will be much more betted, that is the type of thing that is thought when there is a new President.

That is why politics in the USA is so important, for many who are still people who are outside the country it is usually important, when there are very hostile attitudes that usually attracts the attention of anyone who wants to know how things are going for the US, Because this country is very decisive for everyone in general, what I think is that the Actions that are taken are going to be good or bad for the countries, especially in terms of the economy, in terms of the presidential candidates, it could be said that Those who have more preparation are the most indicated, right? but since obviously at least I turn on the TV, I put on the news and the first thing I see is that Trump has to appear in court, that they have to do a lot of things so that he can get out free, that he has to appear, and all that amount and of people who come out and support him, others who want to sink him, than the nuclear files that he took, what makes me curious is that if this being manages to overcome all those inconveniences and if Trump manages to win, how will those people be ? the ones that have made your life so Impossible? How will they face a great power ?  Because once he is president, the opder he will have will be something extratospheric, and will he take revenge against those people? I mean , he will stay still Trying to solve so many Problems that there are.
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August 08, 2023, 06:20:44 AM
I Don't want to bet for US government election because many survey institutions will open survey result then everyone will know what will happen. And i thonk Russia will play big game and there will happen a impact in US government election. After all some people will bet but i am not interested about it. Although USA is big democratic country. People will give vote to elected leader. But there will play big game i think. Overall i wish there will be transparent vote. And a good man will be elected as a President. Because USA is Leading country all over the world. And i think Such a president will come like Jo Biden, Barak Obama who will serve US People's rights properly.
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August 07, 2023, 09:26:12 PM
I saw them tied according to the New York Times poll from last week. Both had 43%.
It's amazing that so many people are willing to vote for these two and not for someone new. Biden is barely doing anything and sleeps on debates. He's too old for this job.
Trump was involved in riots, so he's not really a clean and honest guy to vote for. I'd say that he's better than Biden, but not as good as Kennedy. I guess that's because I'm a libertarian so both Trump and Biden feel like going from bad to worse.

I hope that trump gets convicted and loses votes and Biden just resigns citing old age and the board gets wiped.

In the United States, they have a two-party system. There are fringe candidates from parties such as Libertarians and Greens, but they hardly get more than 1-2% of the total vote. And by now it is almost confirmed that Trump and Biden will be the nominees from their respective parties. It is going to be a repeat of 2016 and 2020, when the voters were forced to chose a candidate who is less evil. Kennedy and DeSantis maybe better choices for the voters, but the problem is that these two can never win the nomination as the presidential candidates.
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August 07, 2023, 08:17:18 PM
It looks as if Biden is regaining some of the lost ground. Two presidential polls were released this week. In the first one, from NY Times/Siena, Biden and Trump are tied at 43 points apiece. The second one (by Morning Consult) actually puts Biden ahead by 3 points (44 vs 41). DeSantis is well behind and is trailing Biden by 6 points in the poll from Morning Consult. It is still too early to make the predictions though. More than a year remain for the next POTUS elections, and the numbers can change wildly before the election day.

I saw them tied according to the New York Times poll from last week. Both had 43%.
It's amazing that so many people are willing to vote for these two and not for someone new. Biden is barely doing anything and sleeps on debates. He's too old for this job.
Trump was involved in riots, so he's not really a clean and honest guy to vote for. I'd say that he's better than Biden, but not as good as Kennedy. I guess that's because I'm a libertarian so both Trump and Biden feel like going from bad to worse.

I hope that trump gets convicted and loses votes and Biden just resigns citing old age and the board gets wiped.

Actually, if I recall correctly there is a libertarian party in the United States, it would be awesome to see some new faces and new parties taking the spotlight in American politics, but it seems the people from USA are trapped within the bipartidism which only offers two bad candidates and the voters are in only to choice a lesser evil.

Now, if we talk about betting, for now I would put my money of Biden, unless something happens which discredit him, I think the moderate republicans will distance themselves from the far right ideas and unacceptable behavior which have characterized the Trump campaign.

Though, I must admit it is impressive how Trump manages to turn each indictment to his favor in the polls.
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August 07, 2023, 02:08:31 PM
It looks as if Biden is regaining some of the lost ground. Two presidential polls were released this week. In the first one, from NY Times/Siena, Biden and Trump are tied at 43 points apiece. The second one (by Morning Consult) actually puts Biden ahead by 3 points (44 vs 41). DeSantis is well behind and is trailing Biden by 6 points in the poll from Morning Consult. It is still too early to make the predictions though. More than a year remain for the next POTUS elections, and the numbers can change wildly before the election day.

I saw them tied according to the New York Times poll from last week. Both had 43%.
It's amazing that so many people are willing to vote for these two and not for someone new. Biden is barely doing anything and sleeps on debates. He's too old for this job.
Trump was involved in riots, so he's not really a clean and honest guy to vote for. I'd say that he's better than Biden, but not as good as Kennedy. I guess that's because I'm a libertarian so both Trump and Biden feel like going from bad to worse.

I hope that trump gets convicted and loses votes and Biden just resigns citing old age and the board gets wiped.
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August 07, 2023, 01:48:58 PM
The US election is at stake by many people outside of US citizenship so from here we can see that the US election attracts gamblers to participate in a bet even though they do not participate or do not have the right to vote.
Maybe later when the election is near more people will risk their money for the US election.

Actually an election candidate should not say that because it can create a controversy and might damage his image as an election candidate in a country.
But things like that naturally happen to be able to take down his opponent.
It will be more interesting one to bet on the US election.The sign of cryptocurrency in the US was not good.So we need the more young and challenging President for the United States.Obama itself the good head for the US,but he was replaced by the Trump is unexpected one.Since the election is not closer,many people not ready to bet the money for now.After 2024 New year begins,we can except the betting for the election will be started in all the website.It's very important for you to wait till the new betting was placed on the US Election.The announcement of the candidate was not yet finalized,So hold till the announcement of the candidate.
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