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August 21, 2023, 05:03:57 AM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?

Yes, I do feel the same. It's weird that once you are jailed you cannot vote (I think that's the case in the US), but you would still be able to be elected as president.

Makes little sense to me.

In that case, Trump wouldn't be able to vote for himself.
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August 21, 2023, 01:04:12 AM
Any personality you follow on social media that discusses US politics that have been restricted or demonetized already? I would expect most of those who support Trump and are vocal about it would be banned as the elections draws near.

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If Trump was the president, then the Russo-Ukrainian war would have been over by now. 
I would argue that Russia would have never fired a single shot if Trump was re-elected.
legendary
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August 20, 2023, 10:30:24 PM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?

this situation is not new in other countries. some are jailed and yet they can still run for office. i guess, it depends on how politics is being handled in every country. if you think about most requirements to run in politics, it is pretty much easy. so if they feel they can go around with the rules, they will, if they have the interest to run.

Absolutely. Being in jail does not deprive a politician to still run for its desired position as long as he still has the potentials and is capable enough to manage his people. If the country’s government allow it to happen, then I don’t think Trump or any other politician will have to fear being put in jail. If Trump finds himself in this case, then probably he might be following the footstep of a previous president Eugene Debs who still managed to get majority of the votes despite of the fact that he’s in jail. This is not new anymore, and I’m sure more of these future politicians will have the same fate.
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legendary
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August 20, 2023, 06:59:46 PM
Odds for Trump should be way against him for a variety of reasons, seems fair to him so currently its nice value given for the Biden bet.  Even if we ignore any court cases, Im not legal minded but say they are all for show and suspicion or allegations are not nearly near proof enough for actual convictions.   Hence the motivations to prosecute could be described as politically powered, its a gain from the kudos of bringing the case even if they waste their time doing so in theory as it was never going to be enough.
   So even with all the legal sides dismissed its still a case of lacking the college vote that won the first surprise win back in 2016, eight years later this whole concept is threadbare and worn.  For the very same reasons many candidates try but do not return again there isnt the votes to win on or enough reason to believe so; if people doubt your ability to win then it can become self fulfilling.
   Simple take will always be the economy, if 2020 had been a normal year we might not be here now as I dont think Biden would try at this juncture if not already president.
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August 20, 2023, 06:54:12 PM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?

this situation is not new in other countries. some are jailed and yet they can still run for office. i guess, it depends on how politics is being handled in every country. if you think about most requirements to run in politics, it is pretty much easy. so if they feel they can go around with the rules, they will, if they have the interest to run.
legendary
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August 20, 2023, 06:33:13 PM
honestly I wouldn't bet money on the US election, but looking at trump's ideas, I think I'd rather he lose the election, he had a very bad attitude during the covid pandemic, I'm not American and I've never been to the US from america, but the things i saw in the news about him in the time of the pandemic were absurd, he was not a responsible and courageous person capable of closing everything to protect people from themselves in the time of covid, he was only worried about money and having popularity in the next elections, that's the only thing he is worried about, even if he won in the next elections the guy will be worried about money and popularity

he will stop supporting ukraine and favor russia, he would probably reduce financial support for nato, he also does not accept defeat, he is always accusing the electoral system, but he forgets that it was the same electoral system that he won and became president and that when he won the elections he did not accuse the electoral system of fraud, this type of person does not accept defeat and always uses dishonest means to stay in power, because they think that they are the only ones who can be the solution to problems, and the thought of the dictators who are in africa as presidents

in my opinion, the guy needs to stop lying about the past elections, in fact he shouldn't accuse the electoral system, he should have accepted defeat and congratulated his opponent and then ran again, even if he didn't agree with the elections, he could talk to them himself about this disagreement so that no one else would be listening, he should also condemn the russian invasion of ukraine, but the guy keeps saying things like he will resolve the conflict in a few days if he were president, honestly he is looking like he doesn't have press accessors to be advising him well on what he's going to say
legendary
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August 20, 2023, 03:03:32 PM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?

I disagree, democrats would vote for Joe Biden if there was some criminal case going on against him. That is the difference between both base of voters, the Trump base (which is a good percentage of the Republican base) has managed to devolve from basic common sense and has lowered the political bar to new levels, where it would be okey for a president to be a convicted felon.

If we assumed some of the alleged crimes Bidens commit were true and there was evidence of it, then some other democrat politicians would take advantage of the scandal to position themselves as the new leading candidate for the nomination. In the Republican party the opposite is happening and it is kind of sad to see it from the party which not long along embraced the "law and order" slogan and chanted "blue lives matter". Now the FBI and the prosecutors are the baddies.
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August 20, 2023, 08:20:26 AM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?
So you're telling me that any two-bit politician, even one who started off in jail, might be able to reach the nation's top office? No fantasy for me! Let's not pretend. The principles they stand for and the cause they support are more important than the individual

Dems would support Biden if Trump were to lose, without a doubt. Your fundamental premise, however, is incorrect! Trump is a movement, an ideology, and a wave of disenfranchised Americans. That's up for argument, though; whether you believe it's good or harmful

Moreover, do you think the Republicans could choose a better candidate? Better is not the issue; rather, what works at the given moment. Millions found Trump appealing! So perhaps the greater question is why Trump's message resonated with voters in the first place rather than whether there is a better Republican candidate
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August 20, 2023, 12:53:05 AM
The fact that someone could be jailed and still be elected president is a weird one. I mean not that it is impossible for it to be reverse as well, so I understand it. Think about it, if Trump was out, and someone else was in, like Biden for example, in that case democrats would vote for Biden as well instead of Trump, so do not think that being able to get elected from jail is bad for just one side, it could work out badly or well for both sides.

In the end, it is still weird to think about though, I wouldn't think in a million years that something like this would happen. I mean isn't there any other better republican? Is Trump really the best candidate that republicans could find? There is no single republican that could be better candidate?
legendary
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August 19, 2023, 06:16:21 PM
~ Do you still think Trump can win?

He still can. Because he has trained his voting base to ignore, not pay attention or even care of the serious charges he is being accused of. There are even people who still believe that 2020 was a fraudulent election, it does not matter what evidence one can show. In their minds, this is all about a secret battle between the deep state and the savior Trump, and the Republican polling shows it.

In the end, all will come down to whether the moderade Republican base will choose reason over Trump's political aspirations.

Does Trump's voting base make up the majority of Americans? Trump relies on uneducated people, and there's less and less of such people in America each year. Trump needs a time machine for going back in time to the years when he could win the elections.

Sports bettors don't believe he's winning:



Otherwise we wouldn't have the odds like this.

Trump supporters are not a majority in the United States, but they are part of an important percentage within the Republican voting base. Hence, the reason Republican politicians going for the presidency try not to directly attack Trump. Not even Mike Pence who is one of the victims of the attack on the capitol.

It seems that bettors for now believe that the people of USA will repeat what we saw in the mid term elections, when those candidates picked by Trump and endorsed by him ended up losing.

Still the odds are so separate from each other, something unexpected can turn the situation in Trump's favor.
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August 19, 2023, 03:26:45 PM
PredictIt has Vivek Ramaswamy now in second place above Ron DeSantis: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination

Recent polling from "Emerson" has DeSantis and Ramaswamy tied at 10% each. Trump still remains 30-40% ahead: https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2023-national-poll-desantis-fades-into-tie-with-ramaswamy-trump-maintains-majority-of-gop-support-ahead-of-debate/

Could be an anomaly in the polling data, though I've seen many Republican strategists desperately scrambling to save the DeSantis campaign as if it were a sinking ship as of late. Perhaps their internal polling is painting a similar picture.

Trump as the Republican nominee in 2024 will be an electoral landslide for Joe Biden with the current available polling data. I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary. The election interference by left wing district attorneys in New York and Georgia are strategic. The charges do not have merit. They exist solely to impact his 2024 chances, which is why they waited nearly three years to indict on evidence that existed years ago.
legendary
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August 19, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
Why the focus is only on GOP? I agree that in general the party has moved to further right of the political spectrum. But at the same time the Democrats have also moved even further to the left of the spectrum. But the media focus is only on GOP, because the ecosystem is dominated by the left. But I agree with your argument that this individual-centric policies are against the principles of GOP. It is OK with Democrat party, but Republicans never had such a structure. But Trump has succeeded in transforming the party to something that centers around him during the last few years.
Because Trumpist regime and GOP are different things and the result shows. You may think that democrats gone "far left" but when you look at the last 3 years of Biden presidency, and you wouldn't find too much leftist things, there are "talks" about far left stuff, but there aren't any executive orders about it, you won't see Biden signing any executive order that would be far left, you would see voters of them to be far left now, but not the president himself, that's the difference.

Whereas, even though GOP voters could be a bit closer to center, Trump is far far far right, actually he is far reach if you know what I mean, and that's why there is a difference between the candidate being far or the voter be, Trump should be locked up and some other decent Republican could be the candidate and suddenly everyone would be okay, it is not about GOP or anything, it is personally about Trump.
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August 19, 2023, 05:27:11 AM
It's still too long to choose who the US presidential candidate will be next year, but we'll see now this year who is the most powerful and superior of the 2024 US presidential candidates. Joe Biden from the Democratic Party is again challenging Trump to run for president again.

This is an opportunity for Biden to continue campaigning so that US citizens side with him, with the problems that Trump is currently experiencing, in my opinion this is a very good opportunity for Biden to continue campaigning so that he can later become US president again. but in elections we cannot predict the outcome of who will be elected.
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August 19, 2023, 04:32:40 AM
~ Do you still think Trump can win?

He still can. Because he has trained his voting base to ignore, not pay attention or even care of the serious charges he is being accused of. There are even people who still believe that 2020 was a fraudulent election, it does not matter what evidence one can show. In their minds, this is all about a secret battle between the deep state and the savior Trump, and the Republican polling shows it.

In the end, all will come down to whether the moderade Republican base will choose reason over Trump's political aspirations.

Does Trump's voting base make up the majority of Americans? Trump relies on uneducated people, and there's less and less of such people in America each year. Trump needs a time machine for going back in time to the years when he could win the elections.

Sports bettors don't believe he's winning:



Otherwise we wouldn't have the odds like this.
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August 19, 2023, 04:26:25 AM
~snip~
While I don’t think that Trump will go to jail, I’ll admit I am fascinated by the possibility that a candidate for President could run and possibly be elected while serving time in jail. That would be a historic event and a sign of the times I guess. I think more then ever people want to see a President clean house and attempt to fight against the corrupt alphabet boys.

There has been a long list of American federal politicians that have been convicted of crimes. Here's the wikipedia page for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

It's quite a lot of people, specially when you think that these people should in theory have the best character, and there is an expectation of having a better moral ground than the average person.
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August 19, 2023, 01:55:24 AM
~snip~
With the new Georgia indictment, it's looking like it will be an electoral disaster for Trump. Brian Kemp, Georgia Governor, is at a odds with Trump and Kemp won his reelection in 2022 by solid margins, and he beat a Trump backed Republican who tried to primary Kemp.

Having read the indictment, I'm doubtful there exist evidence that would convict Trump of the charges beyond any reasonable doubt (the standard for American criminal trials). Of course that doesn't matter. It's meant to interfere with the election, the radical Fulton county DA has made sure of this. The charges would be more appropriate on the federal level anyways.

Say Trump gets convicted in Georgia state court, he wouldn't even be able to pardon himself on the federal level for state charges if he were to win. The Georgia governor wouldn't be able to pardon him either. A panel in Georgia would have to decide that.

The US allows for a president to be elected from jail.

And that might be exactly what we might see in this coming election.

Reality is getting stranger by the year.

Also, the US is such a divided country at the moment, it could go either way.

While I don’t think that Trump will go to jail, I’ll admit I am fascinated by the possibility that a candidate for President could run and possibly be elected while serving time in jail. That would be a historic event and a sign of the times I guess. I think more then ever people want to see a President clean house and attempt to fight against the corrupt alphabet boys.
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August 19, 2023, 01:44:28 AM
As you all will say that Still there is almost 1 and half year away for USA elections but still I want to highlight this option because here there will be almost in millions of bets that people will do and also that's based on speculations and also someone's interest.
I think that this could be one of the biggest Bets we can see because a whole world Knows america and it's superpower and it's has international recognization because of it's influence to the whole world.
So what are your speculations over this USA elections. And I know that everybody has their own speculations and also wins and also loose. So let's see what will happen?
Still too long with United State election and there are not official announcement yet who will be candidate of president, actually its not excited with betting on United State Election because waiting almost one year for getting result of election. Need faster result when betting in gambling platform actually with bet elections we are waiting almost one year for the winner. By the way any one know about United State candidate for elections in 2024? Will Joe Bidden run for president of the United States again? any one get information about candidate become competitor against Joe Biden.

For me the contest is very obvious, if they fail to disqualify Trump, the contest will be between the two of them, that is for me what I suppose I can do, I know that there will be little left, 1 year, but 1 year is nothing, that It is something that is already clear, 1 year goes by very quickly when it comes to politics, even so, in a merely speculative scenario, I think that Trump would have a great chance of winning, and I think that it is due to the management that Biden has done, I see a certain amount of discontent about the common American, they have let in too many immigrants, some things like the peritri, the war between Ukraine and Russia have many outraged, and even though things are quite strong because the economy, inflation is evident, the economic problems have been very well disguised, but I don't see consumerism in the USA going down, quite the contrary, things are getting stronger, people have to make a lot of money to make a good market, and even Now life is absolutely expensive, to tell the truth it seems expensive to me.

All these aspects are what have caused great discontent with the American demonym, and it is not for less, a series of problems have developed, the truth is that I really like Biden, because he is a person who is seen to want to do Everything is fine, he is a peaceful person who tries to take things in the best way of all, I do not see him with a violet attitude, it is not that he is a fool, he is a person who I appreciate who is doing well, and of course not many either They like this attitude, but I think that if they take things in peace, it is very good, it is better that way, but the problems that are caused are difficult to bear, however, when it comes to the economy, nobody likes to be disliked. put your hand in your pocket, because at that moment things change and not precisely for the better, but to be more alert and defend yourself against this, I think that is what it is about, for me if things go well with Trump, well that will be , possibly Trump wins.
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August 18, 2023, 10:29:40 PM
As you all will say that Still there is almost 1 and half year away for USA elections but still I want to highlight this option because here there will be almost in millions of bets that people will do and also that's based on speculations and also someone's interest.
I think that this could be one of the biggest Bets we can see because a whole world Knows america and it's superpower and it's has international recognization because of it's influence to the whole world.
So what are your speculations over this USA elections. And I know that everybody has their own speculations and also wins and also loose. So let's see what will happen?
Still too long with United State election and there are not official announcement yet who will be candidate of president, actually its not excited with betting on United State Election because waiting almost one year for getting result of election. Need faster result when betting in gambling platform actually with bet elections we are waiting almost one year for the winner. By the way any one know about United State candidate for elections in 2024? Will Joe Bidden run for president of the United States again? any one get information about candidate become competitor against Joe Biden.
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August 18, 2023, 10:10:55 PM
Republican party already moved away from the right side and has been going towards something else. They are not doing anything that would make sense, it is not going to be acceptable and we should be avoiding trying to make them look like they are just "party of values", because they haven't been one for a long time at all.

I think it is quite important to realize that you should be considering this party as the party of Trump now and for the next time being they are going to be just a cult of one man and they should be considering that as the vote. If you think that you want to vote for Trump then you are going to end up voting for trump, if you want to vote for republicans, then voting for trump doesn't mean you are voting republican.

Why the focus is only on GOP? I agree that in general the party has moved to further right of the political spectrum. But at the same time the Democrats have also moved even further to the left of the spectrum. But the media focus is only on GOP, because the ecosystem is dominated by the left. But I agree with your argument that this individual-centric policies are against the principles of GOP. It is OK with Democrat party, but Republicans never had such a structure. But Trump has succeeded in transforming the party to something that centers around him during the last few years.
legendary
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August 18, 2023, 12:24:50 PM
Republican party already moved away from the right side and has been going towards something else. They are not doing anything that would make sense, it is not going to be acceptable and we should be avoiding trying to make them look like they are just "party of values", because they haven't been one for a long time at all.

I think it is quite important to realize that you should be considering this party as the party of Trump now and for the next time being they are going to be just a cult of one man and they should be considering that as the vote. If you think that you want to vote for Trump then you are going to end up voting for trump, if you want to vote for republicans, then voting for trump doesn't mean you are voting republican.
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