Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 144. (Read 901343 times)

Of course I'm a bigot, I'm human, it's part of my DNA.
Name a single person you know that isn't into bigotry. Spoiler alert: None.

Ask yourself:
      ISIS holds different opinions from yourself. Are you intolerant towards their beliefs?

See. 

Why are you continually avoiding the refuting of the science that shows that God exists? You say that it isn't true. But the scientific laws behind it show that it is true. What's the matter? Can't show that God doesn't exist scientifically?

So you're asking me to have a pseudoscience argument debate with you. Sweet mother of God why? What the point of that?
Why not use your time more constructively and read up on pseudoscience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience

Well, lets see some then. Because cause and effect is a scientific law as well as universal entropy, and complexity in the universe is understood completely by all sciences even though in may not have been formulated as a law.

Come on and refute with a little science or pseudoscience, rather than simply blabbing on and on. And don't tell me your blabber is political science, because we already know that.

EXACTLY. You can only fight pseudoscience nonsense with more pseudoscience nonsense.

Now join up the dots. 

And you operate by blah, blah, blah without any science or even a point behind it. Show the science that opposes the science I have shown, above. You can't. Because there isn't any. The closest thing that comes to opposing the science I show, is pseudoscience theories. And you haven't even shown any of these.

You are proving yourself to be ignorant over, and over, and over... since the beginning of the time I started in this forum.

There are dozens of types of lying. Half-truths, lying by omission, noble lies, to name just a few.
Not sure what the offical name is of the type BADlogic just used,  but it was a lie as in lying to himself pretending he doesn't know something, when actually he knows full well what that something is.

Don't ask me why. I've know BADlogic a long time. I know exactly how he operates.

Obviously, you can't tell the difference between science backed by scientific laws and science theory.

The only science you are using is political science, the only science that is based on how much you can talk.

There's no lie in his statement or interrogative. I challenge you to pinpoint the "lie" in the above statement to which you reference. He did however, get you to expose your own bigotry, and it is bigotry.

Bigotry: "intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself."

Just because you believe something different from someone else is no reason to belittle someone, act intolerant or other ways that are equally unbecoming of a gentleman, I am confident that you are better than that, especially if you are willing to take such a bold and definitive statement about your origin and demise.

"Someone like me", what, as in truthful you mean? The answer is the answer who ever says it. If I wasn't here someone else would answer the same.

Still going on about your pseudoscience I see. Everybody else figured out years ago true science cannot prove or disprove God. Get over it and moved on. It's boring.

I guessed the answer someone like you would say. But that is not what God is scientifically. Read my above explanation in a previous post. What's the matter? You can't refute the science either, can you?

The Christian idea of "father".

But then you knew the answer to this already didn't you.  Why lie and pretend you didn't? Unless it was rhetorical of course.

What's an all-might skydaddy? What is this fairytale?

Look at what I wrote above, "Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them." I'm talking about the science involved with proving the existence of God.

All you do is talk about a "skydaddy" religion. I agree with you. I don't know of any skydaddy religion. But it must exist, because you keep talking about it. It seems like your religion is the opposite of the skydaddy religion.

I am talking about the scientific proof for the existence of a great big Something that created the universe and fits the definition of the word "God," not a skydaddy. The proof is up there in one of my previous posts. What's the matter? Having trouble refuting the proof? That's why all you can do is talk about a skydaddy?

There is nothing scfientific in the idea af an all-mighty skydaddy.
Its fairytales you tell to your kids to make them behave. the whole idea is idiotic

You are attempting to turn God into a religion. God is not a religion. People build religions around what they think about God. And this is exactly what you are doing.

The thing that I am doing is talking about scientific logic and examination, not religion.

Scientifly no it wont. A all knowing skydaddy just makes more questions. Whare did it come from. Why does it not unerstand biolgy and so on.
And even if science found a God. Why Would you think it is yours and not none of the others?
the whole idea is idiotic.

Before anyone sees something, he doesn't know that it exists. Putting all religion aside, science proves that God exists. I will explain with the example of the pool/billiards professional.

Somewhere during a game of pool, a professional pool player looks at the pool balls scattered on the pool table. Then he says, "I am going to tap the cue ball, which will hit ball x, which will hit ball xx, which will hit ball xxx, which will hit ball xxxx into the corner pocket over here." Then he does it. Few people can do this on a regular basis.

In the beginning of the universe (The universe had a beginning because if it didn't, all-pervading entropy would have reduced it to no complexity by now.), electron x hit electron xx, electron xx hit electron xxx, electron xxx hit electron xxxx, etc., right on down to the present, with countless numbers of hits. And electrons weren't the only thing. All sorts of atomic and sub atomic and energy waves and who-knows-what-else are there doing the same thing, from the beginning right down to the present. The result that we see today is complexity all around, and especially in the intelligence and emotion of mankind.

The universe is countless numbers of times greater than the professional pool player in the complexity it has produced.

When we look around in nature, we see nothing that could have caused the universe. More importantly, we see nothing that could have caused life, and especially intelligence and emotion. Yet these all exist because of cause and effect from the distant past. Whatever produced the universe, life, intelligence and emotion, must have been a great "pool player" to have set these things going in the distant past.

We have no evidence of anything happening spontaneously in the universe. Many things look spontaneous, but they were really caused by something else. This means that there is no random. No random means that everything was set up to run the way it does. Whatever set the universe up to run the way it does, in the face of entropy, so that after thousands of years of cause and effect, it still produces intelligence and emotion, must have been very great, containing a vast amount of intelligence and emotion in itself, far greater than mankind.

Look up the word "God" in the dictionary. There are many aspects. Often the first aspect contains wording like "the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe." Since there was a beginning, and since there is great pool/billiards-like cause and effect beyond understanding, and since there is intelligence and emotion, whatever caused the universe had all this in itself. None of these things happen by random accident. We have no evidence of random accident, because universal cause and effect rule random accident out.

Whatever that "thing" was that caused the universe, did it according to intelligent plan, and with emotion. If it didn't, we wouldn't have intelligence and emotion. The definition of the word "God" in the dictionary fits whatever set the universe up. In fact, we cannot begin to understand how great of a God God is.

Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them.

There is zero evidence that god excist. Even if you proved that evolution is wrong, the age of the earth and so on, it still wouldent proove a almighty sky-daddy. Science dont say. "I don't understand iot, therefor God". They seek answers. We tried to live in a christian world. Its called the dark ages.
Christianity is the enemy of humanity

Maybe proof of good existence was found in 1956 and they are hiding from us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0t8CNSdfYc


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Right! And science is failing right now by believing that theories are facts, when even the things that seem to be scientific facts sometimes fail.

If the world lasts long enough, the scientists of today will go down in history as some of the most self-deluded theoretisists that ever existed. But the engineers will go down as some of the greatest scientists. And the political scientists will go down as some of the shrewdest liars.