Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 145. (Read 901362 times)

This is a complete failure to understand science

Science is about communicating with other people via evidence and examples... if you cannot convince someone, you fail

Imagine that you wanted to see that air exists, from a scientific standpoint. There is no paper for thousands of fundamentally known things of the universe.

The scientific evidence that God exists is fundamental. Probably no other paper has been written than the unscientific writings that I am doing here, and those of scientists who show that cause and effect, complex universe and universal complexity are real.

You can figure it out for yourself by taking the papers that show the three, and combining them to show God.

Yup. the book fiction. Its crap. the God exist only in you nightmares. He is just as real as the easterbunny.

Show me the paper.
You said a while ago that science works thru engineering nowadays.
That's true, but to prove the engineering, they have to write it down so other scientists can test it.
That is called a peer rewired paper.
 Show me the link to the paper where they prove it

But you can use the things of science to prove the existence of God.

Cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy all exist, and science affirms them. If you took one of them away, we would have either no universe, or a completely different universe. Combined, they show God. But since you don't WANT to acknowledge that God exists, you won't take the time to understand how science proves He exists.

However, nature shows that God exists. Complex machinery isn't built without intelligence. And the most complex machinery of all is found in nature and its existence.

Again. Science have never proven a all mighty sky-daddy

However, science and nature show that God is the great reality.

Can't speak for all and I don't consider myself an atheist - think a bit of Pascal's Wager added with the uncertainty of creation but a book I read a while back by Ayn Rand sums it up pretty good page starting at lower end page 3 then to 6 the PDF can be found here http://justonereason.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/The-Fountainhead.pdf



Religion's monopoly in the field of ethics has made it extremely difficult to communicate the emotional meaning and connotations of a rational view of life. Just as religion has preempted the field of ethics, turning morality against man, so it has usurped the highest moral concepts of our language, placing them outside this earth and beyond man's reach. "Exaltation" is usually taken to mean an emotional state evoked by contemplating the supernatural. "Worship" means the emotional experience of loyalty and dedication to something higher than man. "Reverence" means the emotion of a sacred respect, to be experienced on one's knees. "Sacred" means superior to and not-to-be-touched-by any concerns of man or of this earth.

But such concepts do name actual emotions, even though no supernatural dimension exists; and these emotions are experienced as uplifting or ennobling, without the self-abasement required by religious definitions. What, then, is their source or referent in reality? It is the entire emotional realm of man's dedication to a moral ideal. Yet apart from the man-degrading aspects introduced by religion, that emotional realm is left unidentified, without concepts, words or recognition. It is this highest level of man's emotions that has to be redeemed from the murk of mysticism and redirected at its proper object: man.

Yup. the book fiction. Its crap. the God exist only in you nightmares. He is just as real as the easterbunny.

You can. Again read the bible.
The only sin that can condemn to hell is to denounce the holly spirit.
You can kill and rape all you want
And no I'm not going to help by quoting this time. read the damn book and maybe you will see the light
I have many times. That's why I'm an atheist

You literally just said you are willing to stake your future on what you read in a book that you don't even believe in. REKT.

And no I'm not going to help by quoting this time. read the damn book and maybe you will see the light
I have many times. That's why I'm an atheist

One can't believe on the Holy Spirit except that He gets the Word of God into himself/herself in some way... and I don't mean by eating paper. Why? It is only the Holy Spirit Who works faith in a person's heart, and the Holy Spirit only works through the Word of God.

Besides, anybody that becomes evil, or continues in his evil ways intentionally, disrupts his faith. Depending on how serious his crime, or how intentional, his faith is going bye-bye, or it was never there in the first place.

Since all people sin - even the real Christians - one needs to daily maintain at least the reminder of some of the words he formerly read in the Bible, or heard being read to him, if he wants to maintain his faith.

Read the bible. The only thing you need to do to be a christian is to believe in the holly spirit.
You can be a killer, a rapist, whatever. As long as you believe you go to heaven.
The only sin that can send you to hell is to denounce the holly spirit.

The percent of people that call themselves Christians that have read the Bible is small. That's why we have Christianity

According to a recent survey in the United States, eighty-five percent of the people questioned said they were Christian. However, when questioned further under criteria of a evangelical Christianity that salvation only comes through faith in Jesus alone and that the truth and concepts in the Bible are totally inspired and should be their guide for living, only eight percent said that they could then be called Evangelical Christians.

Another survey said that less than 10 percent of Christians believe in absolute truth.

Yet another another survey of Evangelical Christians said that one third believed that Jesus sinned.

About half believed that you can find God through other religious.

Many think there is no hell.


These survey were taken in America but much of the world would say things that are equally revealing. These surveys help confirm a theory that I have that only a tithe (10 Percent) of those that identify with Christianity are actually born of the Holy Spirit and thus will be found worthy to leave in the Rapture. The Christians in name only will enter the tribulation.

The percent of Harry Potter fans who read the book is small. The percent of Bible readers who read Harry Potter is small. Bible people feel sorry or the Molochs of the world.

Can't speak for all and I don't consider myself an atheist - think a bit of Pascal's Wager added with the uncertainty of creation but a book I read a while back by Ayn Rand sums it up pretty good page starting at lower end page 3 then to 6 the PDF can be found here http://justonereason.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/The-Fountainhead.pdf

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