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legendary
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April 04, 2019, 12:20:28 PM

Badecker: evolution is not real and it's only a scientific theory

Badecker: The bible is true because....

What method did you use to say the bible is true when you yourself admit the scientific method works?

Using the scientific method to prove the Bible works. Anti-Bible scientists that use science on the Bible, don't use science in a complete way, or they ignore some of the findings, or they quit prematurely because they find that science is proving the Bible to be reliable.

Note that there has been no proof of evolution theory evolution (ETE) ever having been found. This makes ETE to exist in theory only. In fact, the idea that ETE occurred over extended periods of time, makes it unable to ever be proven until we develop working time machines, and methods to examine the DNA of millions of past creatures from multitudes of time zones.

The significance of this is that ETE scientists will always have their foot in the door regarding ETE, but they will never get in any further. The other significant point about this is, nobody will ever be able to use past DNA examinations to prove ETE is wrong.

This means that we will have to continue with the knowledge that adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like have nothing to do with ETE... because we can't even prove that ETE exists/existed.

Further, it proves that you are not asking or commenting about evolution. How? By the fact that I have answered these things for you over and over, and you can't find any way to contradict what I say. This proves that you have other reasons for continuing to comment the way you do on the evolution subject. You are trying to harm me by attempting to get me to slip up in something that I say.

This proves that you are a person of bad faith.

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''Note that there has been no proof of evolution theory evolution '' Prove it heh. Can you prove there has been no proof of evolution theory? Evolution theory exists thanks to the scientific method, saying there has been no proof of evolution is like saying there has been no proof of gravity, of course gravity doesn't knock out your imaginary god so you accept it.

Why would I want contradict myself by attempting to prove that there is no proof of evolution theory? Haven't I been talking about ETE? The fact that you are attempting to twist things around and skew the understanding of things we are talking about, proves that you are a person of bad faith.

Haven't you seen the term "law of gravity?" But you haven't seen the term "law of evolution," right? What does this show us? It shows that gravity is known to be real, but that evolution isn't known to be real, even though we have theories about both.

This shows that you try to disprove God from false premises when you talk the way you do. It also shows that you are a person of bad faith by the fact that you have a religion of atheism.

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hero member
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April 04, 2019, 11:59:46 AM

Badecker: evolution is not real and it's only a scientific theory

Badecker: The bible is true because....

What method did you use to say the bible is true when you yourself admit the scientific method works?

Using the scientific method to prove the Bible works. Anti-Bible scientists that use science on the Bible, don't use science in a complete way, or they ignore some of the findings, or they quit prematurely because they find that science is proving the Bible to be reliable.

Note that there has been no proof of evolution theory evolution (ETE) ever having been found. This makes ETE to exist in theory only. In fact, the idea that ETE occurred over extended periods of time, makes it unable to ever be proven until we develop working time machines, and methods to examine the DNA of millions of past creatures from multitudes of time zones.

The significance of this is that ETE scientists will always have their foot in the door regarding ETE, but they will never get in any further. The other significant point about this is, nobody will ever be able to use past DNA examinations to prove ETE is wrong.

This means that we will have to continue with the knowledge that adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like have nothing to do with ETE... because we can't even prove that ETE exists/existed.

Further, it proves that you are not asking or commenting about evolution. How? By the fact that I have answered these things for you over and over, and you can't find any way to contradict what I say. This proves that you have other reasons for continuing to comment the way you do on the evolution subject. You are trying to harm me by attempting to get me to slip up in something that I say.

This proves that you are a person of bad faith.

Cool

''Note that there has been no proof of evolution theory evolution '' Prove it heh. Can you prove there has been no proof of evolution theory? Evolution theory exists thanks to the scientific method, saying there has been no proof of evolution is like saying there has been no proof of gravity, of course gravity doesn't knock out your imaginary god so you accept it.
legendary
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April 04, 2019, 11:52:34 AM

Badecker: evolution is not real and it's only a scientific theory

Badecker: The bible is true because....

What method did you use to say the bible is true when you yourself admit the scientific method works?

Using the scientific method to prove the Bible works. Anti-Bible scientists that use science on the Bible, don't use science in a complete way, or they ignore some of the findings, or they quit prematurely because they find that science is proving the Bible to be reliable.

Note that there has been no proof of evolution theory evolution (ETE) ever having been found. This makes ETE to exist in theory only. In fact, the idea that ETE occurred over extended periods of time, makes it unable to ever be proven until we develop working time machines, and methods to examine the DNA of millions of past creatures from multitudes of time zones.

The significance of this is that ETE scientists will always have their foot in the door regarding ETE, but they will never get in any further. The other significant point about this is, nobody will ever be able to use past DNA examinations to prove ETE is wrong.

This means that we will have to continue with the knowledge that adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like have nothing to do with ETE... because we can't even prove that ETE exists/existed.

Further, it proves that you are not asking or commenting about evolution. How? By the fact that I have answered these things for you over and over, and you can't find any way to contradict what I say. This proves that you have other reasons for continuing to comment the way you do on the evolution subject. You are trying to harm me by attempting to get me to slip up in something that I say.

This proves that you are a person of bad faith.

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April 04, 2019, 11:31:02 AM

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

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Right but you didn't answer the question, what system or method is better then, in your opinion to find out the truth about something specific?

Since I answered the question, but you just don't seem to understand the answer, look above for the answer.

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Right but then you don't accept the scientific method for evolution and you think the bible is better, why? What method did you use to determine the bible is better than the scientific method to determine the truth?

I don't necessarily think the things that you say that I do just because you say that I do... especially since you contradict the things that you say at the same time that you say them. Rather, you suggest that you are a troll by interjecting ideas as you do.

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Badecker: evolution is not real and it's only a scientific theory

Badecker: The bible is true because....

What method did you use to say the bible is true when you yourself admit the scientific method works?
legendary
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April 03, 2019, 05:31:19 PM

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

Cool

Right but you didn't answer the question, what system or method is better then, in your opinion to find out the truth about something specific?

Since I answered the question, but you just don't seem to understand the answer, look above for the answer.

Cool

Right but then you don't accept the scientific method for evolution and you think the bible is better, why? What method did you use to determine the bible is better than the scientific method to determine the truth?

I don't necessarily think the things that you say that I do just because you say that I do... especially since you contradict the things that you say at the same time that you say them. Rather, you suggest that you are a troll by interjecting ideas as you do.

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hero member
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April 03, 2019, 04:27:41 PM

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

Cool

Right but you didn't answer the question, what system or method is better then, in your opinion to find out the truth about something specific?

Since I answered the question, but you just don't seem to understand the answer, look above for the answer.

Cool

Right but then you don't accept the scientific method for evolution and you think the bible is better, why? What method did you use to determine the bible is better than the scientific method to determine the truth?
legendary
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April 03, 2019, 04:08:41 PM
Is that all you can say? Come on and change your god from yourself to the real God, before it's too late for you.

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My Jehovah witness buddy told me that same nonsense like 45 years ago...  So when exactly is "too late" ?

You pious folk just wont let it go. It's why I don't bother arguing with you. Waste of time.
More fun just mocking your silly superstitious delusions and having a chuckle.

I admire you that you have the fortitude to stay with your false religion as stupid as it is. Or would that be admiring stupidity?

Even with all the anti-aging stuff coming into being these days, neither of us will probably live much more than a hundred years or so. Then we sleep a dreamless sleep until the Judgment Day, when we will find out who is more correct.

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legendary
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April 03, 2019, 04:04:00 PM

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

Cool

Right but you didn't answer the question, what system or method is better then, in your opinion to find out the truth about something specific?

Since I answered the question, but you just don't seem to understand the answer, look above for the answer.

Cool
legendary
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born once atheist
April 03, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
Is that all you can say? Come on and change your god from yourself to the real God, before it's too late for you.

Cool

My Jehovah witness buddy told me that same nonsense like 45 years ago...  So when exactly is "too late" ?

You pious folk just wont let it go. It's why I don't bother arguing with you. Waste of time.
More fun just mocking your silly superstitious delusions and having a chuckle.
hero member
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April 03, 2019, 03:33:11 PM

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool

What's funny is that you still don't understand a scientific theory is the best thing we have to come close to the truth of something. You also believe in gravity so... You think ''eye witnesses'' that cannot be trusted are better than scientific theories.

And whats funnier is that you think you understand science theory from a load of words which is the standard explanation. Yet it is my simple explanation that describes it much more clearly. Yet you won't even accept the standard explanation. Because if you did, you would accept my explanation since they are the same.

I'm kinda glad you only believe in gravity. Such shows you aren't operating in the real world.

Eye witnesses are used everyday in court systems around the world. Now you are opposing your own government.

Cool

DNA evidence trumps eyewitness testimony.

Science works, bitch!!!

Good examination of DNA evidence might prove eye witness reports wrong. But we still haven't found any way that DNA proves or disproves gravity being real... at least without a lot of convoluted interpretation of DNA properties. Yet we have eye witness accounts of all the people that have ever lived on earth that gravity exists. Or do you have some DNA evidence that shows that gravity doesn't exist?

So, I totally agree that science works. Science theory works to substantiate science one way or another. Science theory itself isn't the point of science that is being substantiated by the theory.

Cool

Yeah but what's better than the scientific method when it comes to determining the truth? If you want to know why things fall to the ground, what's a better system than the scientific method? Certainly not eye witnesses or priests, they probably thought it was some sort of magic or just made up something to explain it, answer the question. 

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

Cool

Right but you didn't answer the question, what system or method is better then, in your opinion to find out the truth about something specific?
legendary
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April 03, 2019, 03:30:40 PM

Good examination of DNA evidence might prove eye witness reports wrong. But we still haven't found any way that DNA proves or disproves gravity being real... at least without a lot of convoluted interpretation of DNA properties. Yet we have eye witness accounts of all the people that have ever lived on earth that gravity exists. Or do you have some DNA evidence that shows that gravity doesn't exist?

So, I totally agree that science works. Science theory works to substantiate science one way or another. Science theory itself isn't the point of science that is being substantiated by the theory.

Cool

Yeah but what's better than the scientific method when it comes to determining the truth? If you want to know why things fall to the ground, what's a better system than the scientific method? Certainly not eye witnesses or priests, they probably thought it was some sort of magic or just made up something to explain it, answer the question.  

You are talking about two truths. One truth is the simple truth that gravity exists. The other truth is why or how it exists.

KNOWING that things fall to the ground, doesn't have anything to do with knowing WHY they fall. They fall even if we don't know why.

In the case of gravity, if we want to know WHY gravity works, outside of being told why by someone who knows why, the scientific method might be the best way to find out why.

The WHY of it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it happens. If nobody wants to know WHY, and nobody uses any method to determine WHY, it still happens.

What's the matter? Do you need explanations of such simple things that you talk about, just so that you can understand them? Do you even understand yourself at all?

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hero member
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April 03, 2019, 11:52:58 AM

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool

What's funny is that you still don't understand a scientific theory is the best thing we have to come close to the truth of something. You also believe in gravity so... You think ''eye witnesses'' that cannot be trusted are better than scientific theories.

And whats funnier is that you think you understand science theory from a load of words which is the standard explanation. Yet it is my simple explanation that describes it much more clearly. Yet you won't even accept the standard explanation. Because if you did, you would accept my explanation since they are the same.

I'm kinda glad you only believe in gravity. Such shows you aren't operating in the real world.

Eye witnesses are used everyday in court systems around the world. Now you are opposing your own government.

Cool

DNA evidence trumps eyewitness testimony.

Science works, bitch!!!

Good examination of DNA evidence might prove eye witness reports wrong. But we still haven't found any way that DNA proves or disproves gravity being real... at least without a lot of convoluted interpretation of DNA properties. Yet we have eye witness accounts of all the people that have ever lived on earth that gravity exists. Or do you have some DNA evidence that shows that gravity doesn't exist?

So, I totally agree that science works. Science theory works to substantiate science one way or another. Science theory itself isn't the point of science that is being substantiated by the theory.

Cool

Yeah but what's better than the scientific method when it comes to determining the truth? If you want to know why things fall to the ground, what's a better system than the scientific method? Certainly not eye witnesses or priests, they probably thought it was some sort of magic or just made up something to explain it, answer the question. 
legendary
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April 03, 2019, 10:30:47 AM

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool

What's funny is that you still don't understand a scientific theory is the best thing we have to come close to the truth of something. You also believe in gravity so... You think ''eye witnesses'' that cannot be trusted are better than scientific theories.

And whats funnier is that you think you understand science theory from a load of words which is the standard explanation. Yet it is my simple explanation that describes it much more clearly. Yet you won't even accept the standard explanation. Because if you did, you would accept my explanation since they are the same.

I'm kinda glad you only believe in gravity. Such shows you aren't operating in the real world.

Eye witnesses are used everyday in court systems around the world. Now you are opposing your own government.

Cool

DNA evidence trumps eyewitness testimony.

Science works, bitch!!!

Good examination of DNA evidence might prove eye witness reports wrong. But we still haven't found any way that DNA proves or disproves gravity being real... at least without a lot of convoluted interpretation of DNA properties. Yet we have eye witness accounts of all the people that have ever lived on earth that gravity exists. Or do you have some DNA evidence that shows that gravity doesn't exist?

So, I totally agree that science works. Science theory works to substantiate science one way or another. Science theory itself isn't the point of science that is being substantiated by the theory.

Cool
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 07:28:50 PM

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool

What's funny is that you still don't understand a scientific theory is the best thing we have to come close to the truth of something. You also believe in gravity so... You think ''eye witnesses'' that cannot be trusted are better than scientific theories.

And whats funnier is that you think you understand science theory from a load of words which is the standard explanation. Yet it is my simple explanation that describes it much more clearly. Yet you won't even accept the standard explanation. Because if you did, you would accept my explanation since they are the same.

I'm kinda glad you only believe in gravity. Such shows you aren't operating in the real world.

Eye witnesses are used everyday in court systems around the world. Now you are opposing your own government.

Cool
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 07:23:15 PM
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It's jokers like you with their stupidity, who help atheists be atheists.

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Well let's be fair... you yourself with your stupidity have been doing a pretty good job of that too...


An atheist is going to be an atheist without my or exemplar's help. But at least I show the atheist ways to get out of his stupidity. Like at the bottom.




Hey wtf are you and Batty doing in here? This ain't Flat Earth claptrap trolling, ffs.
It's the magic invisible bearded sky fairy dude discussion.

https://i.imgur.com/HUKxIJ7.jpg

The only thing you are doing is attempting to proclaim mankind as God. Mankind doesn't even know for a fact what will happen the next second. You can tell by all the car accidents that happen. The potential accidents that don't happen, don't happen because God has set up a logical universe, and holds the logic in place.

Why will you die? Because it is part of the logic you are asking for by not accepting God. You are pushing Him away, but because He is so GREAT, you are the one who is moving... right out of life.

Cool

Hey dude...try changing your meds....

Is that all you can say? Come on and change your god from yourself to the real God, before it's too late for you.

Cool
legendary
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born once atheist
April 02, 2019, 04:44:36 PM

Hey wtf are you and Batty doing in here? This ain't Flat Earth claptrap trolling, ffs.
It's the magic invisible bearded sky fairy dude discussion.

https://i.imgur.com/HUKxIJ7.jpg

The only thing you are doing is attempting to proclaim mankind as God. Mankind doesn't even know for a fact what will happen the next second. You can tell by all the car accidents that happen. The potential accidents that don't happen, don't happen because God has set up a logical universe, and holds the logic in place.

Why will you die? Because it is part of the logic you are asking for by not accepting God. You are pushing Him away, but because He is so GREAT, you are the one who is moving... right out of life.

Cool

Hey dude...try changing your meds....
hero member
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April 02, 2019, 04:41:06 PM

So, it is you stupid FE Christians that are helping atheism to grow more than ever. After all, the Bible is meant for salvation... not to prove the shape of the earth.

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I honestly can’t tell if these flat earth folks are religious idiots who genuinely believe their flat earth blather or atheist idiots seeking to attack Christianity via some form of misguided association fallacy.

So far I can only conclude that they are idiots.


It's funny that a religious person would call another religion person an idiot when you believe in nonsensical shit too, you know, a powerful being and magic. Flat earth can be proven wrong just as easily as the bible, we know the age of the universe, earth, we know evolution exists, basically any scientific discovery disproves the bible.

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool

What's funny is that you still don't understand a scientific theory is the best thing we have to come close to the truth of something. You also believe in gravity so... You think ''eye witnesses'' that cannot be trusted are better than scientific theories.
legendary
Activity: 3388
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born once atheist
April 02, 2019, 04:06:34 PM
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It's jokers like you with their stupidity, who help atheists be atheists.

Cool

Well let's be fair... you yourself with your stupidity have been doing a pretty good job of that too...
jr. member
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April 02, 2019, 04:04:30 PM
Atheists in 95% of cases ever getting into religion and tell them how to live well without God , I don't quite understand what do they care what I believe ? I am a believer but why should I know your opinion and impose it on me
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 03:40:51 PM

So, it is you stupid FE Christians that are helping atheism to grow more than ever. After all, the Bible is meant for salvation... not to prove the shape of the earth.

Cool

I honestly can’t tell if these flat earth folks are religious idiots who genuinely believe their flat earth blather or atheist idiots seeking to attack Christianity via some form of misguided association fallacy.

So far I can only conclude that they are idiots.


It's funny that a religious person would call another religion person an idiot when you believe in nonsensical shit too, you know, a powerful being and magic. Flat earth can be proven wrong just as easily as the bible, we know the age of the universe, earth, we know evolution exists, basically any scientific discovery disproves the bible.

What's really funny is all the people who believe science theories to be true, real, and fact. Then someone comes along, and changes the theory... and its believers are found to be just what they are... religious nuts who aren't even smart enough to realize that they have a religion in their science faith.

At least formal religious people know that they have a religion.

Cool
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