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Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:16:55 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 01:43:38 PM

Subjugation to the Bronze Age way of thinking can bring you to destruction in a New York minute.

Fictional characters remain fictional, no matter what you or I believe.

Actually the opposite is true. Rejecting God is what brings destruction down upon you. It is not the destruction of a vengeful entity but the tragedy of foolish self destruction. Most people don’t understand the foundation their society was built upon and what is necessary to sustain it.

Your error is your focus. Your seem to think that the important question is what exists out there apart from you.
That is certainly an interesting question but ultimitally secondary.

The important question is what exists inside of you. What is there at your essence that can be built upon.
God is something transforms you a necessary foundation.

99% of the human body is composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

When you die, the atoms in your body end up in something else.

BTW, it is not 'God' who is transforming you, it is you who is transforming you, but you deluded yourself to think it is 'God'.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 01:43:38 PM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 11:41:00 AM

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Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

You may indeed do all those good things now. Maybe you are the utterly selfless individual Astargath was imagining upthread.

In that event it is unquestionable that you are going good in the here and now and should be commended for it. However that’s not the most important question when discussing an afterlife. More important then what you have done so far is what you would do if given tremendously more power then you currently have and an eternity of time to work with.

What fundamental core belief do hold that will keep you on the path of good. After eons of serving the poor and needy what would prevent you from ever becomming bored and deciding one day to glorify and serve yourself with your great power instead of using it to serve others?

The answer of course is that it is the genuine acceptance that we are the stewards not the owners of God’s creation that our accomplishments are a reflection of his glory not our own. That willing subjugation is what prevents the self from becomming destructive.

Subjugation to the Bronze Age way of thinking can bring you to destruction in a New York minute.

Fictional characters remain fictional, no matter what you or I believe.

So god is a fictional character?

I personally know that I don’t know that igod is fictional.
I also personally know that I don’t know that god is real.

Since I simply don’t know which is true and that is the real truth for me I don’t choose to believe in either one.

I live my life as if it is real and it matters what I do to myself and the rest of the people that seem to be in the same spot that I am in.

I also wonder if god believers were given something extra to have that belief.
I also wonder if atheists were given something extra to have that belief.

I hope one day I will be able to know which to believe but if I don’t no biggie.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 01:43:38 PM

Subjugation to the Bronze Age way of thinking can bring you to destruction in a New York minute.

Fictional characters remain fictional, no matter what you or I believe.

Actually the opposite is true. Rejecting God is what brings destruction down upon you. It is not the destruction of a vengeful entity but the tragedy of foolish self destruction. Most people don’t understand the foundation their society was built upon and what is necessary to sustain it.

Your error is your focus. Your seem to think that the important question is what exists out there apart from you.
That is certainly an interesting question but ultimitally secondary.

The important question is what exists inside of you. What is there at your essence that can be built upon.
God is something transforms you a necessary foundation.

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Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 11:41:00 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

You may indeed do all those good things now. Maybe you are the utterly selfless individual Astargath was imagining upthread.

In that event it is unquestionable that you are going good in the here and now and should be commended for it. However that’s not the most important question when discussing an afterlife. More important then what you have done so far is what you would do if given tremendously more power then you currently have and an eternity of time to work with.

What fundamental core belief do hold that will keep you on the path of good. After eons of serving the poor and needy what would prevent you from ever becomming bored and deciding one day to glorify and serve yourself with your great power instead of using it to serve others?

The answer of course is that it is the genuine acceptance that we are the stewards not the owners of God’s creation that our accomplishments are a reflection of his glory not our own. That willing subjugation is what prevents the self from becomming destructive.

Subjugation to the Bronze Age way of thinking can bring you to destruction in a New York minute.

Fictional characters remain fictional, no matter what you or I believe.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

You may indeed do all those good things now. Maybe you are the utterly selfless individual Astargath was imagining upthread.

In that event it is unquestionable that you are going good in the here and now and should be commended for it. However that’s not the most important question when discussing an afterlife. More important then what you have done so far is what you would do if given tremendously more power then you currently have and an eternity of time to work with.

What fundamental core belief do hold that will keep you on the path of good. After eons of serving the poor and needy what would prevent you from ever becomming bored and deciding one day to glorify and serve yourself with your great power instead of using it to serve others?

The answer of course is that it is the genuine acceptance that we are the stewards not the owners of God’s creation that our accomplishments are a reflection of his glory not our own. That willing subjugation is what prevents the self from becomming destructive.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 03, 2019, 09:20:18 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

Your thinking is skewed. Any imperfection is a killer... not only the imperfection of people killing people. The idea is to be saved out of the imperfection. That is what God does through repentance from unbelief in God and Jesus salvation, be it an imperfect killer, or a person who is imperfect in any other way.

An atheist is dumber than the demons. The demons at least know that God exists, even though they are locked into their position of being against God.

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Why did God create Atheists dumber than demons? To punish them in the hereafter?

Your Honor, I submit to you the proof that God had malicious intent.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

Your thinking is skewed. Any imperfection is a killer... not only the imperfection of people killing people. The idea is to be saved out of the imperfection. That is what God does through repentance from unbelief in God and Jesus salvation, be it an imperfect killer, or a person who is imperfect in any other way.

An atheist is dumber than the demons. The demons at least know that God exists, even though they are locked into their position of being against God.

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Quote from: Astargath on March 03, 2019, 04:35:28 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 06:54:49 AM

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine.

The essence of our evil lies not only of the crimes we commit and facilitate but also the crimes we would commit and facilitate if we had the power to make them happen.

A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. We do not know the secret hearts of men God does.

Here is a story about a man who has killed 1,200 of his fellow human beings. You will be hard pressed to find someone who has taken more lives. He now clearly regrets his actions and is doing what he can to make amends.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-abortionist-i-regret-performing-abortions

Who do you suppose God would be unable to admit into an afterlife this killer of 1,200 who has clearly changed and regrets his actions or a man that has murderered no one but continually wishes for greater power so he can finally actualize his frustrated ambition to torture and murder?

At the end of the day who we are is more important then what we have done. Who we are is determined by our core beliefs.

We have it on good authority that the most important core beliefs are 1) Love God and 2) Love you neighbor as yourself.

''Who do you suppose God would be unable to admit into an afterlife this killer of 1,200 who has clearly changed and regrets his actions or a man that has murderered no one but continually wishes for greater power so he can finally actualize his frustrated ambition to torture and murder?''

That's only assuming that the man who hasn't murdered anyone is waiting to have more power to start murdering people, which is not the case in my example and I believe most people. In fact, if you wanted to kill someone, you could, right now, without needing any kind of power, anyone can murder anyone at basically any point with just a weapon, even your own hands. The example I gave is a good man, that was good his entire life vs a bad man who murdered people but then repented. In our society, we consider the second one the worst one. He killed people that we can't bring back, in fact, he took their freedom, what if they didn't repent or weren't believers when they were murdered but would have been if they still lived?

Now you might say the classic, but god knows everything, well then, why all this?

Are people going to die? Yes. Do people need to be killed to die? No. People simply die of old age. Modern science is doing all it can to find ways to extend the lives of people in meaningful ways. They have failed, so far. The Hunzas, and the people of Vilcabamba, still outlive most people on average... and without all the science.

The point? Saving the essence of life, the soul.

God didn't make people so they should die. Death was induced by the devil, and accepted by the people. God is saving the people through Jesus work on the cross. But because of what people are, they can still reject salvation.

What is salvation? It is the saving of the spiritual essence part of us that says "I am." What is it saved for? Resurrection to a new universe. Who gets saved? Those who believe in God and Jesus salvation. Why only those? Because by rejecting God, people reject the only thing that holds them alive at all. Science can't hold them alive. And even when it can a touch, science can't stop the destruction of the universe when that happens.

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Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

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A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. ...

I think your moral compass is skewed.

If I live my selfless life helping others, caring for poor and needy, never harmed anyone, I am eviler than a murderer just because I think that the fictional characters are fictional?

Who thought you such garbage? Ask for a refund.

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Quote from: CoinCube on March 03, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 06:54:49 AM

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine.

The essence of our evil lies not only of the crimes we commit and facilitate but also the crimes we would commit and facilitate if we had the power to make them happen.

A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. We do not know the secret hearts of men God does.

Here is a story about a man who has killed 1,200 of his fellow human beings. You will be hard pressed to find someone who has taken more lives. He now clearly regrets his actions and is doing what he can to make amends.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-abortionist-i-regret-performing-abortions

Who do you suppose God would be unable to admit into an afterlife this killer of 1,200 who has clearly changed and regrets his actions or a man that has murderered no one but continually wishes for greater power so he can finally actualize his frustrated ambition to torture and murder?

At the end of the day who we are is more important then what we have done. Who we are is determined by our core beliefs.

We have it on good authority that the most important core beliefs are 1) Love God and 2) Love you neighbor as yourself.

''Who do you suppose God would be unable to admit into an afterlife this killer of 1,200 who has clearly changed and regrets his actions or a man that has murderered no one but continually wishes for greater power so he can finally actualize his frustrated ambition to torture and murder?''

That's only assuming that the man who hasn't murdered anyone is waiting to have more power to start murdering people, which is not the case in my example and I believe most people. In fact, if you wanted to kill someone, you could, right now, without needing any kind of power, anyone can murder anyone at basically any point with just a weapon, even your own hands. The example I gave is a good man, that was good his entire life vs a bad man who murdered people but then repented. In our society, we consider the second one the worst one. He killed people that we can't bring back, in fact, he took their freedom, what if they didn't repent or weren't believers when they were murdered but would have been if they still lived?

Now you might say the classic, but god knows everything, well then, why all this?

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Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 06:54:49 AM

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine.

The essence of our evil lies not only of the crimes we commit and facilitate but also the crimes we would commit and facilitate if we had the power to make them happen.

A murderer who kills and repents may indeed be less evil then a man who denies God and lives an outwardly unassuming life. We do not know the secret hearts of men God does.

Here is a story about a man who has killed 1,200 of his fellow human beings. You will be hard pressed to find someone who has taken more lives. He now clearly regrets his actions and is doing what he can to make amends.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-abortionist-i-regret-performing-abortions

Who do you suppose God would be unable to admit into an afterlife this killer of 1,200 who has clearly changed and regrets his actions or a man that has murderered no one but continually wishes for greater power so he can finally actualize his frustrated ambition to torture and murder?

At the end of the day who we are is more important then what we have done. Who we are is determined by our core beliefs.

We have it on good authority that the most important core beliefs are 1) Love God and 2) Love you neighbor as yourself.

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Quote from: Astargath on February 28, 2019, 03:19:51 AM

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

Gonna leave this here.

That was epic dude! thanx.
Ya know... I love how religious retards are always depicted having that cliché ridiculous dopey sounding southern drawl accent.

Quote from: BADecker on February 28, 2019, 11:23:54 AM

You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything... the righteous for salvation, and the wicked for a day of judgment.

Why does God authorize everything? Because He made things righteous, gave himself to mankind to make the wishes of mankind into reality. It was mankind that started to use unrighteous wishes, not God.

God does things with His strength. This is why He doesn't change from doing the things that people wish for Him to do, even when the things are evil... even though He hates the evil.

Ultimately this universe will be destroyed as though it never existed. The last an ungodly person will see of this universe is when he/she dies. The next thing he will see is the judgment.

A righteous person, at death, will receive a temporary spiritual body, with which he will be able to see the good of the universe, but won't be affected by the bad.

When God finally destroys the universe and replaces it with the new universe, the ungodly will go into the destruction of this universe, but the godly will go into the new universe where evil will never be able to happen again.

This stuff is in the Bible, though not all of it in one place.

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Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 10:08:02 AM

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Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

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Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are. - Since you are against God, you would say something like that. But God knows where you are in your life.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence. - You just don't get it. Jesus was God and man, together. When He died, both the man part of Him died, and the God part of Him. When He was raised by the glory of the Father who cannot die, both parts of Him were raised. In doing this, he is extending God-qualities to all mankind.

What does this mean? It means that when you use your God-qualities to be against God, you are also being against yourself. It's the God-qualities that all people have that they are using to do their evil. God, Himself, being stronger than all people (because people are also man/woman), will, in the judgment, at the resurrection, give people what they asked for when they used their God-qualities to ask... Heaven or Hell.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god. - Yes, if the criminal accepts Jesus salvation when he accepts God, and not ony knows that God exists. However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine. - Why do you think that this stuff is gone? It's right where it always has been. Some people break the law without knowledge of what they are doing. Some do it on purpose. Everybody will be judged according what he has done. This means, the saved person who did great evil in his life on earth, will hold a far lower position in Heaven than a person who does good on earth and makes it to Heaven.

God is the accurate and righteous judge regarding all of the above. God can't be rejected. Rejecting God is really only rejecting yourself.

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''However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.''

Well thanks god, isn't he merciful? LMAO.

But in your case, you can thank yourself. You wouldn't accept the God Who was pointed out to you all over the place, to say nothing about the salvation He offered. So, yes. Thank God that He has given you the great freedom to choose. And thank you for making a choice. You will get what you are choosing, and asking for thereby.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 02, 2019, 08:36:13 AM

Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 06:54:49 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 04:22:01 PM

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are. - Since you are against God, you would say something like that. But God knows where you are in your life.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence. - You just don't get it. Jesus was God and man, together. When He died, both the man part of Him died, and the God part of Him. When He was raised by the glory of the Father who cannot die, both parts of Him were raised. In doing this, he is extending God-qualities to all mankind.

What does this mean? It means that when you use your God-qualities to be against God, you are also being against yourself. It's the God-qualities that all people have that they are using to do their evil. God, Himself, being stronger than all people (because people are also man/woman), will, in the judgment, at the resurrection, give people what they asked for when they used their God-qualities to ask... Heaven or Hell.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god. - Yes, if the criminal accepts Jesus salvation when he accepts God, and not ony knows that God exists. However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine. - Why do you think that this stuff is gone? It's right where it always has been. Some people break the law without knowledge of what they are doing. Some do it on purpose. Everybody will be judged according what he has done. This means, the saved person who did great evil in his life on earth, will hold a far lower position in Heaven than a person who does good on earth and makes it to Heaven.

God is the accurate and righteous judge regarding all of the above. God can't be rejected. Rejecting God is really only rejecting yourself.

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''However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.''

Well thanks god, isn't he merciful? LMAO.

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Quote from: Astargath on March 02, 2019, 06:54:49 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 04:22:01 PM

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are. - Since you are against God, you would say something like that. But God knows where you are in your life.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence. - You just don't get it. Jesus was God and man, together. When He died, both the man part of Him died, and the God part of Him. When He was raised by the glory of the Father who cannot die, both parts of Him were raised. In doing this, he is extending God-qualities to all mankind.

What does this mean? It means that when you use your God-qualities to be against God, you are also being against yourself. It's the God-qualities that all people have that they are using to do their evil. God, Himself, being stronger than all people (because people are also man/woman), will, in the judgment, at the resurrection, give people what they asked for when they used their God-qualities to ask... Heaven or Hell.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god. - Yes, if the criminal accepts Jesus salvation when he accepts God, and not ony knows that God exists. However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine. - Why do you think that this stuff is gone? It's right where it always has been. Some people break the law without knowledge of what they are doing. Some do it on purpose. Everybody will be judged according what he has done. This means, the saved person who did great evil in his life on earth, will hold a far lower position in Heaven than a person who does good on earth and makes it to Heaven.

God is the accurate and righteous judge regarding all of the above. God can't be rejected. Rejecting God is really only rejecting yourself.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 04:22:01 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 01, 2019, 01:32:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on March 01, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 11:45:38 AM

Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

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''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out. Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

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Respect him, fear him?

Do you revere or fear wolf from the Red Riding Hood?

You don't get it. You have been brainwashed to fear the idea of hell, God, spirits etc.

The reality is that all of these ideas are fictional. There is no hell, no God, no souls, end of story. Lights out.

Your 'God' is only in your mind, nowhere else.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 04:22:01 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 01, 2019, 01:32:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on March 01, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 11:45:38 AM

Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

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''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out. Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine.

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Their point of view in life is far different from us so it's really hard to explain why they hate religion. But, i have a friend of mine, he pretends atheist because he just want an attention by his parents and friends hahhaha!

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 01, 2019, 01:32:41 PM

Quote from: Astargath on March 01, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 11:45:38 AM

Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out. Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

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Quote from: Astargath on March 01, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 01, 2019, 11:45:38 AM

Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out. Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

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