Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 25. (Read 901357 times)

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

In my personal experience, it's always the religious folk that beat their children senseless. I know a married couple and they're both Atheist, and they don't hit their kids(Only going so far as a slap on the wrist), and there children are the most well-behaved I have ever seen.

When I was growing up, you'd hear horror stories of my friends Italian parents beating them with broom sticks and belts, and half of those guys are on drugs or entirely broke now. Don't even mention the various nuns in Ireland that worked the girls sent to their monasteries to death. Religious people are the worst example of parents in my experience(At least concerning Christianity, don't know about other religions in that personal regard).

For me, our experiences are different and what can make one utterly turn out on religion is multiple. Like Betrayal from a trusted religious friend. But for me, people hate religion because of the commandments or rules that goes with each creed. Many like freedom and they feel religion tends to bound and restrict them. But religions such as Christianity don't have bothersome rules....

each person has their own opinion , so judging each other to make other people trust that you are the right one is absolutely not good.

Personally I'm gonna start killing babies, after all, logically, it's the best we can do, right?

Did you notice how you scrapped most of what I said in the post that you quoted? Then you turned what I said into something I didn't say.

God is almighty. God is love. In love God made everything. In almightiness God controls everything. God controls it for good.

In love God set things up so that people could control aspects of His almighty strength so that people could have greatness similar in ways to God's. When people do wrong, they are simply using God's power for things that God didn't want to happen, and really, never even imagined.

God is a wonderful maker of life. He made life the first time, and when people bring about death in the way that they use God's power, God will save the memory of all things for the resurrection.

Pain and death, though they seem terrifying and destructive, are vain. They will all be destroyed in death and the coming destruction. They will never be remembered or brought to mind again. The resurrection is all that counts.

If you continue in your mindset against God, if you do not change before you die, you will never be able to change. In the resurrection, God will give you what you asked for... to be away from God and good. You will be destroyed along with this universe. Your choice, a gift from God, that you are able to choose.

I never thought you would agree that God 'authorizes' babies to be born with HIV or with open spines.

Nice plan, LOL. 

How you make sense of all of this is beyond me.

BTW, why is your God a sadistic killer? 

You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything... the righteous for salvation, and the wicked for a day of judgment.

Why does God authorize everything? Because He made things righteous, gave himself to mankind to make the wishes of mankind into reality. It was mankind that started to use unrighteous wishes, not God.

God does things with His strength. This is why He doesn't change from doing the things that people wish for Him to do, even when the things are evil... even though He hates the evil.

Ultimately this universe will be destroyed as though it never existed. The last an ungodly person will see of this universe is when he/she dies. The next thing he will see is the judgment.

A righteous person, at death, will receive a temporary spiritual body, with which he will be able to see the good of the universe, but won't be affected by the bad.

When God finally destroys the universe and replaces it with the new universe, the ungodly will go into the destruction of this universe, but the godly will go into the new universe where evil will never be able to happen again.

This stuff is in the Bible, though not all of it in one place.

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

Gonna leave this here.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

That is why it is important that citizen law and police force need to stay neutral and protect people, punish the one try to harm others. There are not reasons anyone can use any religious to harm others, if yes then nee to treat as a criminal case and face jail punishment

But everything that we scientifically know of, operates in the universe by cause and effect, even life and death, right? I mean, if you don't breathe, you die. If you breathe, you live, except if something kills you in some other way, right? Cause and effect.


All you need to do is read what I said, rather than assume that I meant something else. Don't confuse what I said with what is in your mind. I never said anything about birth.

You suggest I shouldn't confuse a couple of things. But there are a billion things that can be confused. Why not state the other 999,999,999 of them, as well? - metaphor. All of them operate by cause and effect... scientifically speaking.



Are you saying that that if a person doesn't have a backpack that he can't have a gun?

No, I haven't figured it about life and death yet, and I don't believe anyone who says otherwise. when talking about these 2 realities.

Don't confuse Life with Birth. Birth is one remarkable aspect of life but not the only one. Life is more complicated than "Mom and dad cause" metaphor.

The world is not one specific country where anyone can keep guns in their backpack.

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Why we need to hate someone if they have different way of thinking? I think as long as you keep your believe for yourself and not tried to force others have the same believe, then it is peace for everyone. We all allow to have our own way of thinking, just keep for yourself and don’t try to influence others life.

LOL! Haven't you figure out that life and death both are the effects of causes? Consider the Mom and Dad cause that life is the effect of, and the flying bullet that death is the effect of. However, I'm glad you are finally starting to think a little.

Forget about all mumbo jumbo. for starter Life and Death are two realities in this world which affects every living soul on this earth.

You might start with the version of reality that affects all of us. It is obvious... cause and effect (C&E). It's obvious in everything we do. The game of pool (billiards) shows it. When you hit the Q ball in pool this way, it produces certain results. When you hit it that way, the results are different. Same with every electron that hits every other electron... force that bumps another force... atom that hits an atom... photon of light that hits something else... wave of energy that runs into something... etc.

Everything in the universe acts exactly according to the way that it was caused to act by the thing(s) that caused it to act that way... all according to the laws of physics that do not change except according to the changeability built into physics. This includes our thinking, which causes us to make our decisions as we do.

C&E makes our decisions to be programmed in the universe by whatever started the universe. No free will except that the thing that programmed us goes back in time to juggle the start of the universe a little so that changes in the things we decide, are constantly set into play through C&E of the whole universe from the beginning.

If you don't understand the implications of this, you haven't reached the beginning of reality in your thinking... yet. C&E nullifies all your considerations of reality if you don't understand that everything is programmed to act exactly the way it does, and that you are programmed to think the way you do... except that the "programmer" resets the universe a little from the beginning, to allow you to change your mind.