Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 26. (Read 901357 times)

Trouble is, you aren't going to take the time to find out what is real. Or are you?

That's a spirit bro. Btw I like reading your post whenever I get chance. no matter how ignorant you sound in your post (according to my perspective) lol please don't mind. I know you are a cool guy. Namaste

Anybody can talk about other people. If he was talking about me, why should I condemn him for what he believes? So, my post simply directed him to reconsider... if he even looked at it.

I thought sujoris was talkin about you actually....

I didn't realize you felt this way about JSRAW. I guess I haven't followed his(her) posts enough to know that he(she) is this way.

 

BAD eck .. two ugly ewy words....... He's a total sasquatch worm.

BAD eck .. two ugly ewy words don't do justice to the amount of filth this guy has inside of his head. He's a total sasquatch worm.

BADecker Very sick mentality then I must say. you remind me of those missionaries who sent the holy book as relief and not Food and Water during Nepal Earthquake.

BADecker Very sick mentality then I must say. you remind me of those missionaries who sent the holy book as relief and not Food and Water during Nepal Earthquake.

God comes last in mind when people face hunger.

^^^ Why not have the same basic beliefs? After all, 100% of the people need air to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat. Since people are all the same in these basic ways, why not in the basic ways of believing in God?... which is more important than air, water, and food.

Because some people do not care if what they believe is actually true.  Psychological comfort is more important than the truth so people rely on emotions, gut feelings to make assumptions to get them to this psychological nirvana in the shortest amount of time.

Some people cannot live with the "I don't know" answers, so they make up answers.

^^^ Why not have the same basic beliefs? After all, 100% of the people need air to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat. Since people are all the same in these basic ways, why not in the basic ways of believing in God?... which is more important than air, water, and food.

''The theist understands that there is free will, because God tells him that there is free will.'' And how do you know that god is telling you that and it's not artificial free will via C&E?

See how stupid your arguments are? Seems like the C&E that programmed you, didn't make you too smart.

“DNA neither cares nor knows. DNA just is. And we dance to its music.” - Richard Dawkins

I disagree with Dawkins though. I believe that we are more than the sum of our genetic makeup and environment. We also have the spirit which can go against those two factors. The soul/spirit, which is independent of our genes and environment, gives us this free will.

You quoted Jesus yourself, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'

Science has found cause and effect. If, as the standard understanding of science is, there is no spirit or soul, then all things that we attribute to spirit and soul, are simply bio-electrical (or other) impulses that operate via C&E. All electrical impulses follow exact physical laws. Everything is programmed from the beginning... programming called cause and effect. No free will. Only programming.

But the scientists who think this way, still feel that they have free will to some extent. So, is the feeling of free will, really free will? Or is it artificial free will via C&E? If it is artificial free will, and there is nothing scientific that shows real free will, how do we know that we have free will, scientifically speaking?

The atheist who is a science buff, doesn't know that he has free will. He knows that he feels free will. But he doesn't know if it is artificial or real. He can only suggest artificial, because C&E is proven, but spontaneity hasn't been proven. To the atheist, everything is programmed, except that he guesses that there might be true free will that we don't know about.

The theist understands that there is free will, because God tells him that there is free will. But where does the free will lie? Just because a theist knows that he has free will, doesn't remove him from C&E programming, which programming says that free will is artificial.

From a theistic standpoint, we have free will. But our free will isn't what we think it is. We use artificial free will in our daily operations in lives, just like the atheists. We also use real free will daily (just like the atheists who don't know it), but we don't really know how we use it. It is a complete mystery. But we feel and use our artificial free will all the time.

Science has found cause and effect. If, as the standard understanding of science is, there is no spirit or soul, then all things that we attribute to spirit and soul, are simply bio-electrical (or other) impulses that operate via C&E. All electrical impulses follow exact physical laws. Everything is programmed from the beginning... programming called cause and effect. No free will. Only programming.

But the scientists who think this way, still feel that they have free will to some extent. So, is the feeling of free will, really free will? Or is it artificial free will via C&E? If it is artificial free will, and there is nothing scientific that shows real free will, how do we know that we have free will, scientifically speaking?

The atheist who is a science buff, doesn't know that he has free will. He knows that he feels free will. But he doesn't know if it is artificial or real. He can only suggest artificial, because C&E is proven, but spontaneity hasn't been proven. To the atheist, everything is programmed, except that he guesses that there might be true free will that we don't know about.

The theist understands that there is free will, because God tells him that there is free will. But where does the free will lie? Just because a theist knows that he has free will, doesn't remove him from C&E programming, which programming says that free will is artificial.

From a theistic standpoint, we have free will. But our free will isn't what we think it is. We use artificial free will in our daily operations in lives, just like the atheists. We also use real free will daily (just like the atheists who don't know it), but we don't really know how we use it. It is a complete mystery. But we feel and use our artificial free will all the time.