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September 16, 2015, 11:55:07 PM
Question:  Has anyone ever changed their mind about believing in a god due to an internet forum? 

No, but it has helped me understand why some people believe the way they do. It has also helped me with my studies, human nature is amazing and it really does take all sorts to make the world go round.
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September 16, 2015, 07:44:58 PM
Question:  Has anyone ever changed their mind about believing in a god due to an internet forum? 
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September 16, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
you know nothing ..DUMB ASS..Plus BADECKER..you know nothing but a much better thinker than BITNOW..He is stupid ..  Science Has not been invented by god..
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN GOD..
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE MIXED UP BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOTHING..
THE EARTH IS GOD IT CREATED YOU..
BITNOW ..How can you teach if you know nothing..LEARN HISTORY..DUMBASS



I just stick around and try to learn more on them without screwing up my situation too much.


See BADEcker? That's what I'm doing.

I must keep patience.
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September 16, 2015, 07:25:33 PM

I don't know if you are free or not. If you are, carry on.    Grin

Now I will feel guilty or gay if I avoid the situation or don't consider it deeply enough.

I just stick around and try to learn more on them without screwing up my situation too much.

Thank you for all the information given.


Thank You.
ARE YOU COMING OUT THE CLOSET  Grin Grin
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September 16, 2015, 07:23:28 PM

Nah. There's better things to do in life than either killing them or trying to understand them. After showing them how mixed up they are (because some of them might change their minds and believe in God and be saved), then ignore them. God will take care of them at the right time.

Smiley

I'm mixed up!

Do you think I have time to find a way to teach other people (that do not believe in my same God) how mixed up they are?

Wouldn't be easier if I just carry on?!?


Thank You
you know nothing ..DUMB ASS..Plus BADECKER..you know nothing but a much better thinker than BITNOW..He is stupid ..  Science Has not been invented by god..
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN GOD..
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE MIXED UP BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOTHING..
THE EARTH IS GOD IT CREATED YOU..
BITNOW ..How can you teach if you know nothing..LEARN HISTORY..DUMBASS
legendary
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September 16, 2015, 06:56:02 PM

I don't know if you are free or not. If you are, carry on.    Grin

Now I will feel guilty or gay if I avoid the situation or don't consider it deeply enough.

I just stick around and try to learn more on them without screwing up my situation too much.

Thank you for all the information given.


Thank You.
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September 16, 2015, 06:48:32 PM

Nah. There's better things to do in life than either killing them or trying to understand them. After showing them how mixed up they are (because some of them might change their minds and believe in God and be saved), then ignore them. God will take care of them at the right time.

Smiley

I'm mixed up!

Do you think I have time to find a way to teach other people (that do not believe in my same God) how mixed up they are?

Wouldn't be easier if I just carry on?!?


Thank You

I don't know if you are free or not. If you are, carry on.    Grin
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September 16, 2015, 06:44:00 PM

Nah. There's better things to do in life than either killing them or trying to understand them. After showing them how mixed up they are (because some of them might change their minds and believe in God and be saved), then ignore them. God will take care of them at the right time.

Smiley

I'm mixed up!

Do you think I have time to find a way to teach other people (that do not believe in my same God) how mixed up they are?

Wouldn't be easier if I just carry on?!?


Thank You
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September 16, 2015, 06:38:03 PM

I'm not talking about the ethical side either. God made everything. He made all the things that science is calling science. God is full of fantastically great science. Even life science has more to it than simply being alive... even forever.

Smiley

So... basically, with atheists, or you kill them or you try to understand them?

That's all the choices I've got?!?


Thank You.

Nah. There's better things to do in life than either killing them or trying to understand them. After showing them how mixed up they are (because some of them might change their minds and believe in God and be saved), then ignore them. God will take care of them at the right time.

Smiley
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September 16, 2015, 06:15:16 PM

I'm not talking about the ethical side either. God made everything. He made all the things that science is calling science. God is full of fantastically great science. Even life science has more to it than simply being alive... even forever.

Smiley

So... basically, with atheists, or you kill them or you try to understand them?

That's all the choices I've got?!?


Thank You.




I guess you should read this very thread at first (since you wouldn't ask if you did). Just in case, I have already answered that question, directly (somewhere in the first pages of it). Further, beliefs in conspiracy theories as well as aliens are of the same nature as any other beliefs, so, I suspect, it has everything to do with religion (or lack thereof)...

But this is irrelevant since it is not for you to decide what is OT and what's not (yes, I checked, you're not the OP)

Wouldn't be easier if you just quoted again your answer to the thread subject?


Thank You.
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September 16, 2015, 04:57:28 PM

No, this is about conspiracy theories people have the fancy for. This doesn't in the least mean that they don't exist, though (both conspiracies and aliens)

That's OT.

This forum is about "Why do atheists hate Religion?": you can answer the question directly or discuss about atheism and religion.

Conspiracies and aliens are neither atheism neither religion.

What's your point in that discussion?

I guess you should read this very thread at first (since you wouldn't ask if you did). Just in case, I have already answered that question, directly (somewhere in the first pages of it). Further, beliefs in conspiracy theories as well as aliens are of the same nature as any other beliefs, so, I suspect, it has everything to do with religion (or lack thereof)...

But this is irrelevant since it is not for you to decide what is OT and what's not (yes, I checked, you're not the OP)
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September 16, 2015, 04:13:40 PM
Have you ever heard of the Sumerian myth on creation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth

Sure; you can find many details about the Sumerian myths in the Phoenix Journals; use the search tool:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/site_search.html
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September 16, 2015, 03:05:11 PM
I think those in power have proof that the aliens exist, they're just not telling people, because people are easier to control this way.

Corrected

So: that is what this is about MakingMoneyHoney and maybe all the atheists in the world... they think G-d is an alien?


Thank You.

No, I don't believe in aliens. "Aliens" would just be Nephilim (half angel/half human) as discussed in the bible. Nephilim have a preoccupation with cross-breeding, not just humans but animals too.
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September 16, 2015, 03:00:15 PM

Perhaps we will get there... perhaps.

Consider. There was a Tree of Life in the Garden, as well. God kicked mankind out of the Garden so that people would NOT eat of the tree of life and live forever. A long time later God sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross, and rise again, so that people who believe in Jesus can have eternal life. If God wanted people to have eternal life, why didn't He simply let them eat of the Tree of Life in the Garden? Why did He put His Blessed Son through all that trouble of dying on the cross to save mankind?

There is more to life and eternal life than the researchers will find out, even if they make people to live for a thousand years twice over.

Smiley

I was not discussing the Ethical side of the technological advancement.

Don't worry: I fully understand that.


Thank You.

I'm not talking about the ethical side either. God made everything. He made all the things that science is calling science. God is full of fantastically great science. Even life science has more to it than simply being alive... even forever.

Smiley
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September 16, 2015, 02:52:39 PM

Perhaps we will get there... perhaps.

Consider. There was a Tree of Life in the Garden, as well. God kicked mankind out of the Garden so that people would NOT eat of the tree of life and live forever. A long time later God sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross, and rise again, so that people who believe in Jesus can have eternal life. If God wanted people to have eternal life, why didn't He simply let them eat of the Tree of Life in the Garden? Why did He put His Blessed Son through all that trouble of dying on the cross to save mankind?

There is more to life and eternal life than the researchers will find out, even if they make people to live for a thousand years twice over.

Smiley

I was not discussing the Ethical side of the technological advancement.

Don't worry: I fully understand that.


Thank You.
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September 16, 2015, 02:50:38 PM

You won't ever get enough smarts to be able to keep yourself alive even in spirit. If you could do this, you could keep your body alive as well.

Smiley

We are getting there.

Technology is progressing.

:-|


Thank You.

Perhaps we will get there... perhaps.

Consider. There was a Tree of Life in the Garden, as well. God kicked mankind out of the Garden so that people would NOT eat of the tree of life and live forever. A long time later God sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross, and rise again, so that people who believe in Jesus can have eternal life. If God wanted people to have eternal life, why didn't He simply let them eat of the Tree of Life in the Garden? Why did He put His Blessed Son through all that trouble of dying on the cross to save mankind?

There is more to life and eternal life than the researchers will find out, even if they make people to live for a thousand years twice over.

Smiley
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September 16, 2015, 02:38:25 PM

You won't ever get enough smarts to be able to keep yourself alive even in spirit. If you could do this, you could keep your body alive as well.

Smiley

We are getting there.

Technology is progressing.

:-|


Thank You.




...omissis...

GOD CREATES FROM MATTER ATOMS AND MOLECULES--HE DOES NOT NEED CLAY OR MUD--FOR GOD IS AND GOD IS INFINITE AND HE CERTAINLY NEEDS NO WAD OF DIRT FROM WHICH TO CREATE HIS MOST WONDROUS CREATIONS. HE CREATED MAN FROM THE ESSENCE OF LIGHT AND GAVE UNTO MAN SPIRIT WHICH IS A PURE REFLECTION OF HIMSELF--THE BODY OF MAN IS ONLY A HANDY PIECE OF MACHINERY TO ENABLE HIM TO BETTER EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE DIMENSION OF PHYSICAL PLANE.

Have you ever heard of the Sumerian myth on creation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth
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September 16, 2015, 02:30:32 PM
Hi BADecker,
We have already been over this. I care not a whit for your physical concerns because there is no death, it is shown by observing nature, by science (52 points not refuted by you nor by any atheist), and even in the Bible (both OT and NT).

This speaker [BADecker] refers to eternal life and then pronounces that Man still experiences death so somehow he is still cursed. Man does not experience “death”--a physical housing experiences changes which you call death in your lack of knowledge--for it, too, is only changed into energy form of one sort or another--back into its original forming elements of matter and energy. The MAN WITHIN WHICH IS THE REFLECTION OF GOD IS THAT WHICH IS IMMORTAL--IN EITHER EVENT THERE IS ONLY CHANGE--NOT DEATH! PONDER IT!

See also:
Right. There are plenty of examples of reincarnation in the Bible, both OT and NT.
http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/history/bible.html

More and more, this ancient knowledge is being affirmed by scientific investigation.

Only knowledge will help you to save your immortal soul, and only YOU can do it.

GOD CREATES FROM MATTER ATOMS AND MOLECULES--HE DOES NOT NEED CLAY OR MUD--FOR GOD IS AND GOD IS INFINITE AND HE CERTAINLY NEEDS NO WAD OF DIRT FROM WHICH TO CREATE HIS MOST WONDROUS CREATIONS. HE CREATED MAN FROM THE ESSENCE OF LIGHT AND GAVE UNTO MAN SPIRIT WHICH IS A PURE REFLECTION OF HIMSELF--THE BODY OF MAN IS ONLY A HANDY PIECE OF MACHINERY TO ENABLE HIM TO BETTER EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE DIMENSION OF PHYSICAL PLANE.

Wrong. It will take way more knowledge than you will ever have time to accumulate in this life to keep you from death. Why? Because there are two kinds of death. There is bodily death, and there is eternal death. If there wasn't eternal death, there would be no bodily death. You are badly mistaken.

One thing that you are close to being right about is that the spirit remains alive after the death of the body. Spiritual life for those who are saved by the Savior will remain alive forever. It will eventually be granted a new body.

Spiritual death for those who die eternally, will begin at the judgment day when God judges all people. The death of those who die starting then, will be a continual death, forever, because the soul is something that lives forever. So, it will take it forever to die, dying on and on, ever decreasing towards nothingness, but not quite getting there, forever.

You won't ever get enough smarts to be able to keep yourself alive even in spirit. If you could do this, you could keep your body alive as well.

Smiley
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September 16, 2015, 02:20:43 PM

Would I be off topic if I said, Thank you for reminding me?    Cheesy

Using magic is a sin.

Hold your position.




Medical research is proving that some of the most difficult things to do are manipulations of the human body and mind. Sure, we can make adjustments that the body and mind manipulate following the adjustments. But we even have difficulty when trying to grow back lost limbs, or live to 200 years.

Some of the fantastic things we have done are, we have made computers, airplanes, cars and lots of other things.

You don't need a savior if you aren't interested in being saved. But if you want to be saved, you need a savior. Why? Because you can't do it yourself. You will die. And there is nothing you can do about it. If there was, you would be a nice guy and show it to modern medicine so that they could help other people stay alive, wouldn't you?

Personally, I don't believe you can do it. If you want to be saved, you need a savior.

Smiley

I quote.



Only knowledge will help you to save your immortal soul, and only YOU can do it.


You cannot save yourself.

"Knowledge leads to death".


Thank You.
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September 16, 2015, 02:09:36 PM
Hi BADecker,
We have already been over this. I care not a whit for your physical concerns because there is no death, it is shown by observing nature, by science (52 points not refuted by you nor by any atheist), and even in the Bible (both OT and NT).

This speaker [BADecker] refers to eternal life and then pronounces that Man still experiences death so somehow he is still cursed. Man does not experience “death”--a physical housing experiences changes which you call death in your lack of knowledge--for it, too, is only changed into energy form of one sort or another--back into its original forming elements of matter and energy. The MAN WITHIN WHICH IS THE REFLECTION OF GOD IS THAT WHICH IS IMMORTAL--IN EITHER EVENT THERE IS ONLY CHANGE--NOT DEATH! PONDER IT!

See also:
Right. There are plenty of examples of reincarnation in the Bible, both OT and NT.
http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/history/bible.html

More and more, this ancient knowledge is being affirmed by scientific investigation.

Only knowledge will help you to save your immortal soul, and only YOU can do it.

GOD CREATES FROM MATTER ATOMS AND MOLECULES--HE DOES NOT NEED CLAY OR MUD--FOR GOD IS AND GOD IS INFINITE AND HE CERTAINLY NEEDS NO WAD OF DIRT FROM WHICH TO CREATE HIS MOST WONDROUS CREATIONS. HE CREATED MAN FROM THE ESSENCE OF LIGHT AND GAVE UNTO MAN SPIRIT WHICH IS A PURE REFLECTION OF HIMSELF--THE BODY OF MAN IS ONLY A HANDY PIECE OF MACHINERY TO ENABLE HIM TO BETTER EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE DIMENSION OF PHYSICAL PLANE.
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