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legendary
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September 15, 2015, 07:03:56 PM
so what makes your book right and the rest wrong Wink Wink

I read all kinds of books, as long as they are educational; you cannot seriously evaluate a book or idea until you have read it.

My favorite books take into account the recorded evidence that supports the survival hypothesis. You cannot be an atheist if you accept the survival hypothesis because that hypothesis refutes humanism, and all atheists are humanists (since what else could they be?). Therefore, I am asking atheists to give an alternative account of the evidence that supports the survival hypothesis (52 points linked below); maybe I missed something in my reading.

So, before I get into why my favorite books are valid truth, I would first ask atheists to examine their beliefs in light of the evidence that supports the survival hypothesis. Please do not hate me for bringing you this information; it is merely a scientific hypothesis.
www.near-death.com/evidence.html
BEFORE I READ IT ALL ...I HAVE DIED AND COME BACK TO LIFE..I WAS IN THE DENTIST ON GAS
WHEN I WAS 13 YEARS OLD..EVERY WORD I TELL YOU HERE IS TRUE..
I was on gas to put me asleep to get a wisdom tooth out..i was lying there then all of a sudden i lifted up to the celling facing the celling then i spun around to see myself face down in the chair..I then floated out of the door down the shopping mall..just before i floated out the main entrance of the shopping mall..i woke up with loads of people around me ..there was a doctor from over the road ..
my hart stopped beating and they had to run over the road to get the doctor to bring me back to life..
But i still don.t believe in god ..
I believe in human power YOU ARE GOD OR THE DEVIL TAKE YOUR CHOICE IN LIFE...
plus i was on gas
plus could it be the brains way to make you feel comfortable when your dying
like when you have a bad accident you don.t feel a thing till 10 to 15 mins after
plus who knows could be more dimensions out there..

alls i know is there is no god ..THE UNIVERSE IS FULL OF SURPRISES.
ONLY SCIENCE WILL HELP US FIND THESE NEW SURPRISES..

AND THIS IS WHY BUDDHISM MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME..INNER PEACE INNER MIND BODY AND SOUL
AND INNER STRENGTH ...NOT MAD ON IT.. BUT I LIKE A LITTLE CHANT NOW AND THEN IF FEELING STRESSFUL IT RELAXES YOU AND MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD...


 TRY IT OUT
STICK SOME HEAD PHONES ON AND RELAX THEN CHANT FOR 30 MINS ..MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw

THE EARTH CREATED US THE UNIVERSE CREATED THE EARTH SO WE ARE ALL ONE..



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September 15, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
so what makes your book right and the rest wrong Wink Wink

I read all kinds of books, as long as they are educational; you cannot seriously evaluate a book or idea until you have read it.

My favorite books take into account the recorded evidence that supports the survival hypothesis. You cannot be an atheist if you accept the survival hypothesis because that hypothesis refutes humanism, and all atheists are humanists (since what else could they be?). Therefore, I am asking atheists to give an alternative account of the evidence that supports the survival hypothesis (52 points linked below); maybe I missed something in my reading.

So, before I get into why my favorite books are valid truth, I would first ask atheists to examine their beliefs in light of the evidence that supports the survival hypothesis. Please do not hate me for bringing you this information; it is merely a scientific hypothesis.
www.near-death.com/evidence.html
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 06:13:43 PM
Simply stated, the real reason that some atheists hate religion is, they are more into theism than they think.

An atheist turns his back on the idea of God so that he can live his life according to his own dictates. Often that life is in conflict with the things that God teaches. An atheist who has trouble pushing the idea of God or theism out of his mind, hates religion because it conflicts with the way he wants to live, and he doesn't like feeling guilty or even borderline guilty. In truth, he hasn't pushed the idea of God out of his mind as successfully as he has thought.

Some atheists are not like this. Some have pushed theism out of their lives so successfully that they don't have the conflict. They can listen to people talking about God all day long, and it totally doesn't affect their conscience. Usually these kinds of atheists don't hate the religion. They simply get disgusted with theists who get in their face. And, they often get disgusted with other atheists who believe in a different form of atheism than they do, and get in their face like the theists do.

Smiley
WRONG AGAIN Grin Grin YOUR ALWAYS WRONG ON THIS TOPIC..
The term theism derives from the Greek theos meaning "god". ...WELL I DON.T BELIEVE IN GOD..

I believe in theory then trying to prove its fact..
had plenty of theory on god whiles growing up and now i know its not fact Grin Grin just like father Christmas..

so as soon as religion goes the better..
The next step is to sort out is socialism capitalism and communism THIS IS ANOTHER PROBLEM..
this will be the next wars..
I am all 3 socialist capitalist and a communist ..
World leaders need to sit down SMOKE SOME SPLIFFS AND CHILL OUT Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy and talk about MUSIC Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:46:50 PM

God's hope is to convert them, not kill them. You can't get them all either way.

Smiley

For sure, looking also at your profile trusts, you are not scared of being called idiot.




Of corrupt popes and priests rotten to the core, who hold immense influence and power. Yes.
Of trolls, no.

Thank you for your idea.
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
I believe in the integrity of the Pope
I'm praying to God your just trolling us on this.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/11/pope-complicit-child-abuse-say-victims
Bet you wouldn't let him do any child sitting for you on an evening out would yeah? Nah, thought not.

Integrity indeed!! LOL Cheesy

Are you scared?

Of corrupt popes and priests rotten to the core, who hold immense influence and power. Yes.
Of trolls, no.
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:28:43 PM
I believe in the integrity of the Pope
I'm praying to God your just trolling us on this.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/11/pope-complicit-child-abuse-say-victims
Bet you wouldn't let him do any child sitting for you on an evening out would yeah? Nah, thought not.

Integrity indeed!! LOL Cheesy






Are you scared?
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:20:14 PM
I believe in the integrity of the Pope
I'm praying to God your just trolling us on this.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/11/pope-complicit-child-abuse-say-victims
Bet you wouldn't let him do any child sitting for you on an evening out would yeah? Nah, thought not.

Integrity indeed!! LOL Cheesy




legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:18:44 PM

You can do that, now. Simply go to a different thread that doesn't talk about atheism.

You can't get away from atheists in this life, except if you become a hermit.

Smiley

Or you can kill them all.

But probably is too much to ask...


Thank You.

God's hope is to convert them, not kill them. You can't get them all either way.

Smiley
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:03:50 PM

You can do that, now. Simply go to a different thread that doesn't talk about atheism.

You can't get away from atheists in this life, except if you become a hermit.

Smiley

Or you can kill them all.

But probably is too much to ask...


Thank You.
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 05:01:11 PM

Now, can't we please stay on topic?    Grin

I would stay on topic if atheists didn't exist.



You can do that, now. Simply go to a different thread that doesn't talk about atheism.

You can't get away from atheists in this life, except if you become a hermit.

Smiley
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:54:40 PM

Now, can't we please stay on topic?    Grin

I would stay on topic if atheists didn't exist.

legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:51:08 PM

No. Pessimistic pragmatist. But often, pragmatic pessimist. But a lot of times I am very optimistic about my pessimism or pragmatism.

 Cheesy

Thank you for the complete answer.

Now, can't we please stay on topic?    Grin
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:38:11 PM

No. Pessimistic pragmatist. But often, pragmatic pessimist. But a lot of times I am very optimistic about my pessimism or pragmatism.

 Cheesy

Thank you for the complete answer.
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:30:13 PM
Simply stated, the real reason that some atheists hate religion is, they are more into theism than they think.

An atheist turns his back on the idea of God so that he can live his life according to his own dictates. Often that life is in conflict with the things that God teaches. An atheist who has trouble pushing the idea of God or theism out of his mind, hates religion because it conflicts with the way he wants to live, and he doesn't like feeling guilty or even borderline guilty. In truth, he hasn't pushed the idea of God out of his mind as successfully as he has thought.

Some atheists are not like this. Some have pushed theism out of their lives so successfully that they don't have the conflict. They can listen to people talking about God all day long, and it totally doesn't affect their conscience. Usually these kinds of atheists don't hate the religion. They simply get disgusted with theists who get in their face. And, they often get disgusted with other atheists who believe in a different form of atheism than they do, and get in their face like the theists do.

Smiley

That's the most complete answer I've read since I started this thread.

Are you atheist?

No. Pessimistic pragmatist. But often, pragmatic pessimist. But a lot of times I am very optimistic about my pessimism or pragmatism.

 Cheesy
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:23:33 PM
Simply stated, the real reason that some atheists hate religion is, they are more into theism than they think.

An atheist turns his back on the idea of God so that he can live his life according to his own dictates. Often that life is in conflict with the things that God teaches. An atheist who has trouble pushing the idea of God or theism out of his mind, hates religion because it conflicts with the way he wants to live, and he doesn't like feeling guilty or even borderline guilty. In truth, he hasn't pushed the idea of God out of his mind as successfully as he has thought.

Some atheists are not like this. Some have pushed theism out of their lives so successfully that they don't have the conflict. They can listen to people talking about God all day long, and it totally doesn't affect their conscience. Usually these kinds of atheists don't hate the religion. They simply get disgusted with theists who get in their face. And, they often get disgusted with other atheists who believe in a different form of atheism than they do, and get in their face like the theists do.

Smiley

That's the most complete answer I've read since I started this thread.

Are you atheist?
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
Simply stated, the real reason that some atheists hate religion is, they are more into theism than they think.

An atheist turns his back on the idea of God so that he can live his life according to his own dictates. Often that life is in conflict with the things that God teaches. An atheist who has trouble pushing the idea of God or theism out of his mind, hates religion because it conflicts with the way he wants to live, and he doesn't like feeling guilty or even borderline guilty. In truth, he hasn't pushed the idea of God out of his mind as successfully as he has thought.

Some atheists are not like this. Some have pushed theism out of their lives so successfully that they don't have the conflict. They can listen to people talking about God all day long, and it totally doesn't affect their conscience. Usually these kinds of atheists don't hate the religion. They simply get disgusted with theists who get in their face. And, they often get disgusted with other atheists who believe in a different form of atheism than they do, and get in their face like the theists do.

Smiley
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 03:47:54 PM
ALL RELIGION IS VERY CONTRADICTING
ITS A BOOK OF BULLSHIT

It's called the "Holy" Bible because it is full of holes and you have to use your own understanding to fill in the gaps.

That is why I asked BitNow to focus on truth, the part that is important:

WHY NOT FIND THE PORTIONS OF THE BIBLE WHICH DO PROJECT TRUTH--SUCH AS THE LAWS OF GOD AND THE PART ABOUT NOT JUDGING?
so what makes your book right and the rest wrong Wink Wink
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
ALL RELIGION IS VERY CONTRADICTING
ITS A BOOK OF BULLSHIT

It's called the "Holy" Bible because it is full of holes and you have to use your own understanding to fill in the gaps.

That is why I asked BitNow to focus on truth, the part that is important:

WHY NOT FIND THE PORTIONS OF THE BIBLE WHICH DO PROJECT TRUTH--SUCH AS THE LAWS OF GOD AND THE PART ABOUT NOT JUDGING?

Very comfortable of you: if you were born in Italy you had the Pope to respect in your DNA.

Democracy is the less worst of forms of government.



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Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent.

George Weinberg

Hahaha... and maybe you were describing me.


Thank You.
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September 15, 2015, 03:45:02 PM
Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent.

George Weinberg
legendary
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September 15, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
1) Does the Pope deny this passage in Hosea? Has any Pope said specifically that knowledge leads to death?

So: you care about the Pope in the end.

2) Knowledge of God's Law is what helps you to follow God's Law responsibly, so how can that knowledge lead to death?

Why did you question God words?!?
"16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Ref: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202&version=NIV

3) Why must Man have interpreters and go-betweens, authorities other than self and "saviors"?

Because they are lost in knowledge and they are trying to save themself keeping integrity and dignity.

4a) If Christ is not a name, then how can the Pope be the representative of Christ?

That's a law. You either respect it or not.

4b) If God resides within you, then how can the Pope be the representative of God?

God is dead.

5) Why is the Vatican not a party to The Hague Apostille Convention?

I never heard of "The Hague Apostille Convention": will read it and let you know.

6) If Emmanuel set up a Church, why did he not talk about it explicitly again and again?

Why you keep calling Jesus Christ Emmanuel? How you will call the Pope?


Thank You.
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