Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 350. (Read 901520 times)

If we believe your garbage of god controlling everything, then your god kills 150,000 people each day for fun.

We know it's for fun because everyday he creates 350,000 people to replace the ones he kills.

Why is he so stupid?  Can't he see the world can't support more people right now?

The passage in Hosea is as clear as day; if you believe in the integrity of the Bible, then you accept that God's people die for lack of knowledge.

There was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Adam and Eve eat from it and they died.

That was preety clear to me.

You are incorrect; in Hosea, God says "My people die for lack of knowledge".

Nice link.


That is false.

Gnosticism has been mainly defined in a Christian context, but 99.99999999% of the "Gnostic Christianity" has been categorised as heresy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

Gnosticism is based on Gnosi (knowledge): every "gnostic branch" professes the research of the truth through knowledge. The Bible says: knowledge leads to death.

You can accept knowledge or you can't. That's the difference between Gnosticism and Religion.


Gnosticism has come back to attention after the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library in 1945 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library), however Gnosticism, in all of it branches, is identified still as heretic from all Christians Faiths. Consider that Freemasonry is considered modern Gnosticism.

Gnosticism however is different from atheism as Gnosticism still believe in a supreme being (the Demiurge).


Still OT...

Hi, how about you quit the "holier-than-thou" posturing and tell us:

1) where Emmanuel actually suggested he was my savior?
2) how such a belief is not magical thinking?
3) how you can still have full responsibility for your life if someone else has taken that burden?
4) why didn't Emmanuel explicitly say that one must believe in him and accept him as one’s “personal savior” to get to “heaven” while he was alive over and over again?
5) Why must Man have interpreters and go-betweens, authorities other than self and "saviors" to take his burden and "save even his soul"? Is it because you think Man is separate from God and that God does not reside within you?
6) Since Matthew 7:17-21 refutes the notion that mere faith suffices for entrance into the kingdom of heaven, and even calling Jesus "Lord" is not enough; how can this possibly be reconciled with the doctrine of Paul which you promote?

I will post this link again for your education:
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell


Gnostic Christians are true Christians; you may think they are not, but you are not an expert on the subject.

I understand.

Thank you for your idea.

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I hope to fight you soon.

Question: do you consider yourself atheist?

In order to continue talking about atheism, we are simply setting foundations when we talk about other religions.

Being baptized is great! It is baptized into faith in Jesus salvation. If you formally reject Jesus salvation, your baptism becomes useless except to keep you in good graces in the Church who can't see into your heart. Faith in Jesus salvation is what saves. Baptism exists to strengthen that faith. If the faith isn't there, the baptism doesn't have anything to strengthen. It is useless.

This is discussing Christianity not atheism.

This is OT.

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I was baptised by a priest who is allowed to benedict you from the Pope which is the vicary of Jesus Christ on Earth through Peter. Is like if I was baptised from Jesus Christ in person. It is like Jesus Christ in person "certified" that I am christian.

Who are you to say I'm not?!?

I may not believe in him, but the fact that I was baptised by him reassure me.


Thank You.
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True Christianity is one wherein the Christian believes that he is saved for eternal life by the work that Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection.

It might be difficult for a Muslim or a Hindu or a Buddhist who believes in Jesus this way. But if they believe in Jesus for salvation, they are true Christians.

Conversely, anybody who thinks he is a Christian, but doesn't believe in Jesus' salvation, is not really a Christian.

The world likes to lump all the people who say they are Christians together, no matter what they believe. But true Christianity doesn't work that way.

You must have had a head trauma during your childhood.

Where you kidnapped by aliens?

Yo' kid: in Italy you are Catholic. If you are Christian and not Catholic you are 0.10% maximum. Catholicism is Christianity in Italy.

"Thank You".

Catholics can call themselves Christian all they want, but if they believe that a priest not confessing them, can lead them to hell, then they don't believe Jesus Christ can save them, and don't believe in the bible where it says to say the Lord's Prayer, which asks for forgiveness from the Lord. If they don't believe in the salvation Jesus Christ brought, how can they be followers of Jesus Christ AKA Christians?

Believing a man (pope/priest) can cause you to go to heaven or hell is not Christian. Jesus said He was the way, the truth and the life.

Anyone who doesn't follow Jesus Christ and live life trying to be Christ-like is not Christian. Jesus warned against Pharisees and false teachers.

This is not to say there aren't followers of Jesus Christ who call themselves Catholic, as I was one growing up. But the Catholic Church is not a Christian Church.

I had this thing grow out of my tearduct after hearing a loud pop mid jump from a plane,must have moved something.
So it started to grow out my eye and block my vision,went to a walk in clinic and they stand me in front of a eye chart and ask me to read it,wtf!
Guy tells me I should get my eyes checked,what did he think I was doing!
Had a surgery the eyeduct can actually be expanded pretty wide and they scraped it all out. But I never saw god when it was removed.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish

I dealt with the beam in my own eye a long time ago. It looks like it is a splinter in your eye, but that's because you are so far away. I have notice that you can't see past the splinter in your own eye, because up that close to you, the splinter is really a beam so big that you can't see anything... anything except the grains of wood on your splinter beam.

 

God killed Jesus Christ.
Atheists were killed in the Golden Calf episode during the 40 years of Exodus from Egypt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf
God exterminated Millions because he was not happy about that people.
(Flood myth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth, Sodom and Gomorra - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah)
God is killing and destroying since Babel tower episode.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel)

Killing is not of God. Deal with the beam in your own eye before pointing out the splinter in your neighbor's eye.

So... what are we doing: are we killing them all?!?


Thank You.

You lash out in ignorance of the truth; his name was Emmanuel, it was changed by Paul; the doctrine of Paul is very different from the teachings of Emmanuel.


Like I said...

If you are telling me that someone else has taken responsibility for me, then you are promoting a deceptive trick of the adversary. Atheists and fundamentalists both reject responsibility for destroying the sickness within self and facing their own failures.

That's funny how quickly you are deceived just changing the name of Jesus Christ to Emmanuel.

If you are telling me that someone else has taken responsibility for me, then you are promoting a deceptive trick of the adversary. Atheists and fundamentalists both reject responsibility for destroying the sickness within self and facing their own failures.

"Jesus" never once suggested that he was my savior.

If the Official Doctrine of Hell was so important to Jesus Emmanuel himself (like it is to so many fundamentalists), why didn't Jesus Emmanuel explicitly say that one must believe in him and accept him as one’s “personal savior” to get to “heaven” while he was alive over and over again?

Could it be that Emmanuel was open in his teachings and he did not specify that he was my savior because it was simply not the case? See: http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hel

Many Christians believe that the Christ path is available exclusively to those who believe in Jesus. But that is an interpretation of the Gospels, not the direct statement of the Gospels themselves.

The disinformation spreads quickly in this day and age; anyone can bury the mind of Man in total garbage or, worse, deceive Man into believing he must have interpreters and go-betweens, authorities other than self and "saviors" to take his burden and "save even his soul".

You are on your own with God and when you come before God on that confrontation and evaluation of self and Knowledge--you will find the measure to be that which you have "learned" in Truth and the actions of the manifested physical experience. Where will YOU fit? It is up to you for God is total allowance and you will do that which you will.

When you break free of the indoctrination of established religions, strict rules and regulations, unnecessary ceremonies and ritualistic practices then you can fully develop your personal relationship with God, which is then 100% comfortable. Live your life with love and kindness in your heart, not hate or anger... then shall you be on the road to Paradise.