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June 11, 2015, 12:04:48 PM
2. Zakir Naik does not believe in evolution.

True and TBH, I don't believe it too because it is just not true. http://x-evolutionist.com/charles-darwin-described-the-problems-with-his-theory-in-his-book-origin-of-species't/ - I haven't read whole page though. Remember, this page is not the reason why I disagree with that *theory* of evolution. AFAIK Darwin's himself said it lacks evidences to support theory. Besides, this is just a theory not a fact.

Just like the Christian science deniers, you don't understand what a scientific theory is. Theory does not mean "hypothesis." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of something in the natural world that is repeatedly tested and confirmed. Saying the theory of evolution is not a fact is just as ridiculous as saying the theory of gravity is not a fact. Unless you deny gravity too?

I do understand. "A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." Smiley

No, I don't deny gravity. There is more than enough proof to believe gravity unlike Darwinism. I have looked more about Darwinism but I couldn't find valid evidences to believe it.

Your last post you just said you didn't even read the through the page of stuff against the theory of evolution. If you don't even read the things you post as evidence to back your wrong opinions, your assertion that you have looked into evolution but find it doesn't have enough evidence to support it has no weight. Luckily, there are people much more thorough in their examination of the evidence (called scientists), so you not believing in evolution is pretty worthless to objective truth.
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June 11, 2015, 11:17:32 AM
2. Zakir Naik does not believe in evolution.

True and TBH, I don't believe it too because it is just not true. http://x-evolutionist.com/charles-darwin-described-the-problems-with-his-theory-in-his-book-origin-of-species't/ - I haven't read whole page though. Remember, this page is not the reason why I disagree with that *theory* of evolution. AFAIK Darwin's himself said it lacks evidences to support theory. Besides, this is just a theory not a fact.

Just like the Christian science deniers, you don't understand what a scientific theory is. Theory does not mean "hypothesis." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of something in the natural world that is repeatedly tested and confirmed. Saying the theory of evolution is not a fact is just as ridiculous as saying the theory of gravity is not a fact. Unless you deny gravity too?

I do understand. "A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." Smiley

No, I don't deny gravity. There is more than enough proof to believe gravity unlike Darwinism. I have looked more about Darwinism but I couldn't find valid evidences to believe it.
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June 11, 2015, 11:09:28 AM
2. Zakir Naik does not believe in evolution.

True and TBH, I don't believe it too because it is just not true. http://x-evolutionist.com/charles-darwin-described-the-problems-with-his-theory-in-his-book-origin-of-species't/ - I haven't read whole page though. Remember, this page is not the reason why I disagree with that *theory* of evolution. AFAIK Darwin's himself said it lacks evidences to support theory. Besides, this is just a theory not a fact.

Just like the Christian science deniers, you don't understand what a scientific theory is. Theory does not mean "hypothesis." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of something in the natural world that is repeatedly tested and confirmed. Saying the theory of evolution is not a fact is just as ridiculous as saying the theory of gravity is not a fact. Unless you deny gravity too?
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June 11, 2015, 12:55:12 AM
It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general......key to understanding muslims and arabs in general is that slaver/slave dealer mindset and desperate sense of inferiority complex mixed with racist attitude IS the foundation of their identity. ....
They must be exterminated down to the last seed, last woman and child, and their wives should be raped, violated and their children thrown into the pit......the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.

Personally I don't see farciful Straw Puppets of Hate being useful instruments of persuasion or of explanation, whether they be Anti-Muslim SPH or Anti-Jew SPH.

And why do the Straw Puppets always seem to emerge with a post count of 14?

Inquiring minds would like to know...

Gotta love you talking about 'straw man' and 'hate' when you don't even know what that means Smiley

World isn't quite as clever as you think maybe, but feel free to call spades hearts and diamonds clovers if that helps you from asking the necessary questions.

Blah blah blah.

And now to show the other side of the story,

Three Muslim leaders stand up against Imams inciting a massacre of Christians and prevent it.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-massacre-prevented-in-pakistan-after-muslim-leaders-stand-up-to-islamic-imams-inciting-mass-attack-22-muslims-arrested-140223/

Typical 'fair and balanced' non sense Smiley

You have nothing to disprove a single point made in my post, and can only resort to pathetically hollow arguments such as 'straw man' LOL

Is this what passes for education these days? When I got my ph.D at least folks tried to think outside themselves haha
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June 10, 2015, 08:28:11 PM
It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general......key to understanding muslims and arabs in general is that slaver/slave dealer mindset and desperate sense of inferiority complex mixed with racist attitude IS the foundation of their identity. ....
They must be exterminated down to the last seed, last woman and child, and their wives should be raped, violated and their children thrown into the pit......the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.

Personally I don't see farciful Straw Puppets of Hate being useful instruments of persuasion or of explanation, whether they be Anti-Muslim SPH or Anti-Jew SPH.

And why do the Straw Puppets always seem to emerge with a post count of 14?

Inquiring minds would like to know...

Gotta love you talking about 'straw man' and 'hate' when you don't even know what that means Smiley

World isn't quite as clever as you think maybe, but feel free to call spades hearts and diamonds clovers if that helps you from asking the necessary questions.

Blah blah blah.

And now to show the other side of the story,

Three Muslim leaders stand up against Imams inciting a massacre of Christians and prevent it.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-massacre-prevented-in-pakistan-after-muslim-leaders-stand-up-to-islamic-imams-inciting-mass-attack-22-muslims-arrested-140223/
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June 10, 2015, 05:17:13 PM
It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general......key to understanding muslims and arabs in general is that slaver/slave dealer mindset and desperate sense of inferiority complex mixed with racist attitude IS the foundation of their identity. ....
They must be exterminated down to the last seed, last woman and child, and their wives should be raped, violated and their children thrown into the pit......the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.

Personally I don't see farciful Straw Puppets of Hate being useful instruments of persuasion or of explanation, whether they be Anti-Muslim SPH or Anti-Jew SPH.

And why do the Straw Puppets always seem to emerge with a post count of 14?

Inquiring minds would like to know...

Gotta love you talking about 'straw man' and 'hate' when you don't even know what that means Smiley

World isn't quite as clever as you think maybe, but feel free to call spades hearts and diamonds clovers if that helps you from asking the necessary questions.
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June 10, 2015, 02:57:05 PM
It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general......key to understanding muslims and arabs in general is that slaver/slave dealer mindset and desperate sense of inferiority complex mixed with racist attitude IS the foundation of their identity. ....
They must be exterminated down to the last seed, last woman and child, and their wives should be raped, violated and their children thrown into the pit......the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.

Personally I don't see farciful Straw Puppets of Hate being useful instruments of persuasion or of explanation, whether they be Anti-Muslim SPH or Anti-Jew SPH.

And why do the Straw Puppets always seem to emerge with a post count of 14?

Inquiring minds would like to know...
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June 10, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general. The religious support for all these makes the supposed 'christian oppression' look like half baked amateur play. They don't even recognize their faults - it's simply accepted as truth and fact unlike the west that has fully proven capable of change and improvement all on its own.

Such foundations seep into unweary populations in other countries like a plague. Many of the conflicts in africa for example, can be traced to arabized africans vs. real africans.

The key to understanding muslims and arabs in general is that slaver/slave dealer mindset and desperate sense of inferiority complex mixed with racist attitude IS the foundation of their identity. They were the first slavers of black africans; It is they who killed and kidnapped blacks en mass from ancient times, kidnapping and raping 'nubile black african women' especially, and even continued to do so openly until late 19th century and still do so today under the guise of domestic workers/foreign labor/essentially indentured servitude dictated strictly by racial reasons.

They must be exterminated down to the last seed, last woman and child, and their wives should be raped, violated and their children thrown into the pit, their screams being fitting retribution for the multiple millenia of crimes against humanity that arabs and mulsims have perpetrated. Their current 'oppression's is a lie - akin to a thief and rapist complaining the jailhouse doesn't have a 50 inch plasma TV, or complaining that their victims are not allowing themselves to be targeted. All the more reason to fk them to pieces.

Make no mistake - you must fight against rapists, thieves, murders, and slavers. Arabs and muslims are exactly that, and have been for several millenia, with lies of so called culture (that they stole from greeks, jews, indians, romans, europeans, asians, etc etc). There is no compromise to be had against racists or rapists and murders. This is a war of race, religion, and hatred being waged by muslims through lies, sniveling smiles, violence, and outright disrespect towards all others world wide.

There isn't a single border that is bloodless where significant muslim population meets a significant civilization. From the islands of philippines, western china, to borders of pakistan, chechnya, southern russia, balkans, middle east (where christians and jews and non muslims such as yazdhis have all but been exterminated), north africa, etc etc, it is a fact that muslims are rats and pigs who need to be raped to pieces to learn their place. The so called 'peace' instilled in majority muslim nations such as indonesia is only a disguise where minority non-muslims are more or less treated as subordinate to muslims at best - all pretty faces until some small matter inspires these muslims to oppress their 'brothers'.

Lies upon lies upon lies.   


The only real hate crimes are muslim crimes. As a minority, it's obvious when a minority is bullshitting and trying to manipulate people. Muslims world wide are doing exactly that, from the lowest gas station employee to the presidents of arab muslim nations. Lies are not only accepted - they are not thought of lies at all. They attempt to manipulate the guilt based social fabric of the west, the duty bound face saving culture of the east, and foolishly believe they are fooling anyone.


There is no such thing as 'islamophobia'. Phobia implies an irrational reaction against something that needs no such reaction. There is nothing irrational about hating and wanting to exterminate rapists, murderes, and  disrespectful whores who can't keep their mouths shut or open them without lying twice with one word.

It's high time arabs and muslims are fk'd to pieces for who they are. Despite the laughable lies and supine ignorance of the mainstream media, many people around the world from US to Europe to China and Russia, are quietly coming to form their own conclusion about these liars and cowards.

I guarantee that the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.
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June 10, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Wrong. That was taken out of context from Zakir Naik's speech.

http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/30405

According to Zakir Naik, "In Islam, death penalty should not necessarily be evoked on every person who leaves Islam, but to those who propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam". Seems like I was slightly wrong. According to Zakir Naik, apostasy is "not necessarily" punishable by death, but criticism of Islam is.

I have listened to this nutcase Naik and agree, he is as radical as necessary to classify him as one of the Bad Guys.  There is no way to claim "out of context" with Naik, his context IS RADICAL.
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June 10, 2015, 09:37:55 AM
Wrong. That was taken out of context from Zakir Naik's speech.

http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/30405

According to Zakir Naik, "In Islam, death penalty should not necessarily be evoked on every person who leaves Islam, but to those who propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam". Seems like I was slightly wrong. According to Zakir Naik, apostasy is "not necessarily" punishable by death, but criticism of Islam is.
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June 10, 2015, 08:51:51 AM
your claims have been proven bias. if you look up to the video that where he said that, you would understand you have been played by the media for cherrypicking incomplete quotes.

come on you know how the media works.

do some research and find the complete video on youtube then we can talk again.

I don't want to watch lengthy videos of this lunatic. Just tell me whether these facts are wrong or not:

1. Zakir Naik favors death sentence for apostates from Islam.

Wrong. That was taken out of context from Zakir Naik's speech.

2. Zakir Naik does not believe in evolution.

True and TBH, I don't believe it too because it is just not true. http://x-evolutionist.com/charles-darwin-described-the-problems-with-his-theory-in-his-book-origin-of-species't/ - I haven't read whole page though. Remember, this page is not the reason why I disagree with that *theory* of evolution. AFAIK Darwin's himself said it lacks evidences to support theory. Besides, this is just a theory not a fact.

3. Zakir Naik supports Osama bin Laden.

He does said something about it. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aVhAMFefx0

4. Zakir Naik demanded Shariah law in India, despite Muslims comprising only 15% of the population there.

True but I can't comment on latter because I haven't researched more about it.

5. Zakir Naik supports a ban on the construction of non-Muslim places of worship in Muslim lands.

Sorry, I have found criticisms but not a video in which he says this. It would be helpful if someone can point me to it. Thank you!

6. Zakir Naik supported the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas.

Sorry, I have found criticisms but not a video in which he says this. It would be helpful if someone can point me to it. Thank you!

7. Zakir Naik's disciples (such as Kafeel Ahmed, Najibullah Zazi, and Rahil Sheikh) have indulged in terrorist acts across the world, which resulted in the deaths of many innocent people.

I don't know about Kafeel Ahmed and Rahil Sheikh but Najibullah Zazi's some of the terrorist act was may have been* inspired by Zakir Naik's word(which is in the YouTube video I posted above) but it was actually meant to be a different meaning, instead, people started quoting that one line which is out of context.

NB: I don't follow Zakir Naik but I do watch some of his videos to know what he is saying and he is certainly not my man. So I am in no way making biased statements here.

Edit: * I changed "was" to "may have been" because I haven't got enough proof and media mostly twist things. I am not telling it wasn't inspired rather I need more proof. By the way, if you have any proof because of which you believed, that maybe enough. Please give me link to it, if possible. Thank you!
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June 10, 2015, 08:09:02 AM
your claims have been proven bias. if you look up to the video that where he said that, you would understand you have been played by the media for cherrypicking incomplete quotes.

come on you know how the media works.

do some research and find the complete video on youtube then we can talk again.

I don't want to watch lengthy videos of this lunatic. Just tell me whether these facts are wrong or not:

1. Zakir Naik favors death sentence for apostates from Islam.
2. Zakir Naik does not believe in evolution.
3. Zakir Naik supports Osama bin Laden.
4. Zakir Naik demanded Shariah law in India, despite Muslims comprising only 15% of the population there.
5. Zakir Naik supports a ban on the construction of non-Muslim places of worship in Muslim lands.
6. Zakir Naik supported the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas.
7. Zakir Naik's disciples (such as Kafeel Ahmed, Najibullah Zazi, and Rahil Sheikh) have indulged in terrorist acts across the world, which resulted in the deaths of many innocent people.
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June 10, 2015, 06:38:45 AM
Because, Islam is a religion created with conditions where the only goal is war against infidels. So that we should not be surprised how they behave against the other religion. I think,  it is their only way to stay and build their country.

Stupid. Islam doesn't tell to kill infidels just because they are infidels and also Muslims in early started fighting war when they were being slaughtered.

Generally speaking, stupid or not stupid, the world would be a much better place without Islam...you and your ideology are creating too many problems for the rest of us, the rest of us being the vast majority ( aka 75% of the entire world population) ...And it's not just ISIS that is creating problems...Al Nusra front in Syria, Boko Haram in Nigeria, al-Qaeda (everywhere), Talibans (Pakistan and Afghanistan) etc etc

why there are aren't any Christian terrorist groups ? or Buddhist terrorist groups ? Christianity is just as a big lie as Islam but at least we got over the Dark Ages...you are stuck in the Dark ages for 1600+ years...The only stone throwing contest should be towards a lake, if you catch my drift...

Sooner or later once you will get a nuke (because no matter how retarded your cave men are, you will get/buy it eventually in 10-20 years max)  you will eventually do something really stupid and blow up a western city...or parts from it...I can see this coming...When you will achieve that genocide , that will be the end of Islam in Western and developed Asian countries...You are building your own coffins with ISIS and other terrorist groups, once you will pull off the "big scheme" and kill 10000+ people in a Western city (because that's what ISIS is dreaming of and I honestly think that they will live their dream) no human rights organization will ever take your side regardless of what they will do to you afterwards....something really bad is going to happen to you, someday....What goes around, comes around....

If you looked at these groups, you can see all of them have political motives and they just hide it under the name 'Islam'. They obviously contradicts Islam.

I do agree with him, though, in that by such violent acts they redefine Islam for OTHERS, essentially hijacking it.  He suggests that at some point, following some latest atrocity, nobody will listen to you or people of your persuasion - they'll have simply had enough.

Thusly, "Islam" becomes the "New Islam" and guys like you basically own it.

But do not fear, you will be welcome in the groups of atheists and those of secular orientation.

Smiley

If you are referring to guys like me, then I can surely tell that I don't own or follow what groups like ISIS doing, their new religion.

islam doesnt hates people! you should ask to jewish why they hates people? (muslim,christian,budhism,hiduism even atheis) jewsh assumed that people except their religion is not human.
 -snip-

Are you telling all Jews hate people? I don't agree with this.
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June 10, 2015, 06:36:46 AM
if you have a question about both of your religion and islam and the history of islamophobia or something else ,please visit dr.zakir naik official channel (he is an expert,he has memorize alquran,hadits even your bible and hinduism to)

You lost all your credibility, when you quoted that religious fanatic, Zakir Naik. This is the same guy who has said that those who leave Islam and then propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam should be put to death in an Islamic rule. And this same guy suported Osama bin Laden, claiming that Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam.

your claims have been proven bias. if you look up to the video that where he said that, you would understand you have been played by the media for cherrypicking incomplete quotes.

come on you know how the media works.

do some research and find the complete video on youtube then we can talk again.

Yup thats what i mean,he said in the video, claiming then-president George W Bush was behind the attacks and you would understand that you have been played by the media
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June 10, 2015, 06:28:42 AM
if you have a question about both of your religion and islam and the history of islamophobia or something else ,please visit dr.zakir naik official channel (he is an expert,he has memorize alquran,hadits even your bible and hinduism to)

You lost all your credibility, when you quoted that religious fanatic, Zakir Naik. This is the same guy who has said that those who leave Islam and then propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam should be put to death in an Islamic rule. And this same guy suported Osama bin Laden, claiming that Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam.

your claims have been proven bias. if you look up to the video that where he said that, you would understand you have been played by the media for cherrypicking incomplete quotes.

come on you know how the media works.

do some research and find the complete video on youtube then we can talk again.
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June 10, 2015, 06:04:12 AM
if you have a question about both of your religion and islam and the history of islamophobia or something else ,please visit dr.zakir naik official channel (he is an expert,he has memorize alquran,hadits even your bible and hinduism to)

You lost all your credibility, when you quoted that religious fanatic, Zakir Naik. This is the same guy who has said that those who leave Islam and then propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam should be put to death in an Islamic rule. And this same guy suported Osama bin Laden, claiming that Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam.
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June 10, 2015, 05:59:33 AM
islam doesnt hates people! you should ask to jewish why they hates people? (muslim,christian,budhism,hiduism even atheis) jewsh assumed that people except their religion is not human.

iam not perfect,we are not perfect
but islam is perfect
so please dont judge islam buy the cover, you should learn about alquran and hadits to find  is that true what is islam hates people without one reason? ,dont judge islam by what they did.

in islam "your religion is yours, my religion is mine" we would not tolerant in religion activity but only for life activity like what we did in this forum.

if you have a question about both of your religion and islam and the history of islamophobia or something else ,please visit dr.zakir naik official channel (he is an expert,he has memorize alquran,hadits even your bible and hinduism to)

https://www.youtube.com/user/Drzakirchannel
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June 10, 2015, 12:07:24 AM
Saudi Arabia spends a whooping 10% of their GDP for military expenses, that's the largest percentage by far from all the rest of the countries ( the US in comparison spends just 3%), and their Saudi GDP is a huge one as well...

The problem is that this can't go one for too long. The crude oil prices are going down, as a result of increased production in countries such as the United States, Russia and Iraq. And at the same time, the (native) population of Saudi Arabia is increasing at an astonishing rate of 3% per year. The per capita oil revenues are going to decline considerably in the next 10 or 20 years. After that, the Saudis can go back to their cave man style of living.
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June 09, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
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what do you think Saudi Arabia will do with all that army in 20 years from now ? They are hard-core Muslims in ideology, they will have a big army and they and their Sunni allies are many (85% of all Muslims are Sunni)....

What will they do with such an army?  Well, they are not transporting it across the oceans to do combat, so I would imagine if they were expansionist, those close by would be the targets.

And what will warfare look like in 20 years?  It might be their huge mass of foot soldiers against a swarm of robots - a hopeless endeavor. 
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June 09, 2015, 10:45:12 PM
"Christian Terrorism" is a laughably small thing when compared to "Muslim Terrorism."  Small enough that it can literally be disregarded.  I would grant that in a few geographical areas, local dynamics work to the opposite, of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Why compare Christian Terrorism to Islamic terrorism? Why can't we compare it to Buddhist terrorism and Hindu terrorism? The Hindus and Buddhists don't go to the Amazon jungle, and hunt down native tribal people with machine guns in order to convert them to those religions (just like the Christian terrorist organization New Tribes Mission did to various tribes such as the Ayoreo and Ache).

http://www.christianaggression.org/tactics_violence.php

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”I … saw two old ladies lying on some rags on the ground in the last stages of emaciation and clearly on the verge of death. One was unconscious, the second in what was evidently a state of catalepsy...In the second hut lay another woman, also in a desperate condition and with untreated wounds on her legs. A small, naked, tearful boy sat at her side...The three women and the boy had been taken in a recent forest roundup, the third woman having being shot in the side while attempting to escape.”

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Another method, aptly called "manhunt", involves the missionaries going out, sometimes in motorized vehicles, hunting for natives to integrate them into reservations set up for missionary work. The New Tribes Mission (NTM), for instance, went on such a manhunt in Paraguay. Five missionized natives were killed in one such manhunt. Those unconverted natives were taken to the NTM camp in Campo Loro. Within a short while, according to Survival International, all had died of new diseases they had no immunity to. Stung by criticism, the best reply the NTM 's Director in Paraguay could muster was: "We don't go after people anymore. We just provide transport." In another such "manhunt" in 1979, also in Paraguay, one of the frightened natives fell down from a tree and broke her leg. (Her right breast had already been shot off by a previous encounter with the missionaries.) She was compelled, with her broken leg, to walk back to the mission camp. She subsequently died.

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Yet this is what he said: "It's better they should die. Then I baptize them (on the point of death) and they go straight to heaven."
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